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To: Olog-hai
"You're very confused. What's America-like about Germany, pray tell?"

That's irrelevant and a little too far off-topic, but here's a reply for that and the topic at hand. Southern Europe can't be supported so much by tourism, ethnic attachments, Hollywood productions glamorizing organized crime, and heavy trade with enemies against the USA. Southern Europe should manufacture and grow more useful things. I'm an American--not a European.

In an earlier post, you tried to relate current-day Germany with the Nazi Germany of WWII and before. Germany has been assisting with technology and building weapons for Israel. The following is in contrast and may have some relation to the UK's obvious and official hatred against Israel (and the recent bleeding for Italy and libels against others in the UK's opinion publications).

IRAN: ITALY MUST RELY ON TEHRAN TO BOOST ROLE IN MIDDLE EAST, DIPLOMAT ["Main trading partner."]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1690564/posts

Payvand's Iran News ...
8/6/03
Huge recovery in Iran's exports to EU
"The increase in Iranian exports was dominated by the rise in EU oil imports to eur 1.5 bn. It was led by Italy, Iran's biggest market, whose imports grew by eur 130 m to eur 500 m."

Italy defends Iran’s nuclear rights
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933837/posts

IRAN: D'ALEMA, SANCTIONS WOULD ESPECIALLY DAMAGE ITALY>
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1639485/posts
Agenzia Giornalistica Italia, Italy
"(AGI) - Rome, May 26 - Economic sanctions under discussion against Iran would damage Italy in particular, which is an important trade partner of Iran."

Italy Plans to Charge GI in Iraq Death
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1559896/posts

I warned Bush about Iraq: Italy's PM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1512263/posts

Berlusconi protests over CIA ‘kidnap'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1434969/posts

Italy Demands 'Full Respect' From U.S. Over Terror Suspect's Seizure
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1434975/posts

20,000 in farewell to Italian 'martyr'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1358260/posts

Freed Italians eye return to Iraq [Italy paid a ransom!]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1231061/posts

Sgrena's 'truth' doesn't ring true
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1361764/posts

Italy to stop paying ransoms
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1361666/posts


57 posted on 11/18/2011 6:47:42 PM PST by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop

I'm an American--not a European
As such, you should deplore the social market economy that Germany's trying to force on the rest of the continent instead of defending it.

Germany has been assisting with technology and building weapons for Israel
So what? We have China building phony chips for our guided weapons. Doesn't serve very well to have enemies building your weapons for you. Playing both sides makes for an unreliable partner. And it doesn't make up for Germany's anti-Israel propaganda campaign (about three-quarters of Germans believe that Israel's out to exterminate the Palestinians and maybe over half of Germans equate the IDF with the Nazi SS).

As for Italy, they dug their own grave by voting in genuine fascists back in 2008. They would obviously be working behind the scenes to take their useful idiot Berlusconi out of the picture not long after he got them in.
61 posted on 11/18/2011 8:48:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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