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Camp Pendleton didn't see cross flap coming
North County Times ^
| Nov 20, 2011
| Mark Walker
Posted on 11/20/2011 2:29:50 PM PST by radar101
Scott Radetski, Karen Mendoza, Jon Gross and Shannon Book work to carry a 13-foot cross to the top of a mountain at Camp Pendleton on Nov. 10 to recognize those Marines who have fallen or been wounded in combat. The original cross was carried up by seven people, and three of those original seven were killed in combat in Iraq. Radetski was a chaplain during the battle for Fallujah, Mendoza's husband was killed in combat, and Gross and Book also served in Iraq during the battle for Fallujah. (RICK LOOMIS / Los Angeles Times )
A memorial cross atop a Camp Pendleton hillside installed by former Marines and widows of troops killed in Iraq is prompting a fight that base officials say they didn't see coming and are scrambling to resolve. The cross, erected Nov. 11 in the Camp Horno area in the northern portion of the 125,000-acre base, has raised the ire of a military atheist group, whose leader says it's an unconstitutional tacit endorsement of Christianity
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TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: athiests; religion
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:29:51 PM PST
by
radar101
To: radar101
Military atheist group? No such thing in combat.
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:33:04 PM PST
by
optiguy
(Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
To: radar101
has raised the ire of a military atheist group, whose leader says it’s an unconstitutional tacit endorsement of Christianity
Give him equal representation... nail him to it.
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:35:04 PM PST
by
Sequoyah101
(Half the people are below average.)
To: Sequoyah101
former U.S. Army Capt. Jason Torpy, who heads a group called the Military Association of Atheists and Free Thinkers
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:36:30 PM PST
by
Sequoyah101
(Half the people are below average.)
To: radar101
Atheism is a religion so why do they think they have superior rights?
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:37:50 PM PST
by
mountainlion
(I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
To: radar101
The guy who always screams until nice stuff like this stops is a Jewish lawyer from —you won’t believe this— the REAGAN administration. I’m serious.
He’s the same guy who made the huge flap about how some Trijicon optical rifle sites had tiny Biblical enscriptions, requiring their recall.
He’s always pulling this.
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:41:56 PM PST
by
gaijin
To: optiguy
Another cadre of whiners. They're as bad as the Moslems and homos. They all have an agenda to crush any free expression that is at variance with their own perverted dogma. Why should the behavior of the multitudes who hold conventional beliefs be held hostage by a few heterodox zealots?
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:44:27 PM PST
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
To: radar101
Camp Pendleton - you damn well better not back down.
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:45:19 PM PST
by
maine-iac7
(ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
To: mountainlion; Pride in the USA
Atheism is a religion so why do they think they have superior rights? A most excellent question. Hat tip.
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posted on
11/20/2011 2:47:36 PM PST
by
lonevoice
(Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
To: radar101
They give the G—D—M Muslims prayer rooms, foot baths, and time to point their ass away from Mecca—Why not a simple wooden cross Memorial?
GOD BLESS those vets and widows!
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posted on
11/20/2011 3:04:34 PM PST
by
radar101
To: radar101
a group called the Military Association of Atheists and Free ThinkersTransfer them all to Afghanistan. Then let them try to convince the locals that "Allah" is a figment of their imagination.
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posted on
11/20/2011 3:34:13 PM PST
by
reg45
(I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
To: mountainlion
Atheism is a religion so why do they think they have superior rights?That's really what it comes down to. When Atheism is recognized as being at the extreme end of a "belief in God(s)" spectrum (iow, that there is none), the Establishment clause kicks in. A purge of all things God from the public space would be establishing Atheism as the State Religion.
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posted on
11/20/2011 3:40:53 PM PST
by
NonValueAdded
(At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
To: radar101
To remove the cross is unconstitutional tacit endorsement of atheism. There - a standoff, the cross stays.
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posted on
11/20/2011 3:52:54 PM PST
by
pacpam
(action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
To: mountainlion
Good point. Athieism is the religion of no religion. They espouse their beliefs by preaching and spreading their word. They even have their own symbols to signify athieism.
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posted on
11/20/2011 3:56:13 PM PST
by
pfflier
To: Sequoyah101
I never could figure out why a true atheist would care about others religions. They seem to be the only ones along with muslims that get their pantys in a wad over a cross...If they are true free thinkers as the name implies they must only want free thinking for themselves. Others aren't allowed to differ from them. It makes no sense. They must be unsure of themselves and their atheism or they wouldn't be afraid of a cross. Someone that doesn't believe in any god sure look silly fighting something they do not believe exist..
To: All
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posted on
11/20/2011 3:59:09 PM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: radar101
tacit endorsement of Christianity Best thing that could happen to the whole country.
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posted on
11/20/2011 4:03:39 PM PST
by
tbpiper
To: radar101
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posted on
11/20/2011 4:49:47 PM PST
by
ken21
To: FReepers; All
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posted on
11/20/2011 4:50:22 PM PST
by
RedMDer
(Forward With Confidence!)
To: radar101
Bag’em and tag’em. This destruction of the Corps has got to be stopped and the rebuilding begun.
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posted on
11/20/2011 6:23:06 PM PST
by
SuperLuminal
(Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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