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The 5th Column in the U.S.
BigGovernment ^ | 11/20/11 | John Loudon

Posted on 11/20/2011 3:59:02 PM PST by FreeKeys

“Workers of the World Unite”

Karl Marx, the infamous German political philosopher had a vision. Marx, together with Joseph Engles predicted and even called for the dismantling of capitalist economic systems worldwide into a socialist and ultimately classless communist World. 24thState will be asking the question of the late Mr. Marx, “How is that working out for you?”

CP USA

In a series of columns, we will expose the 5th column in the United States. We will name names and expose the ties from David Axelrod, who just visited St. Louis referring to some GOP presidential contenders as “nutty folks“, to active Marxists and communist party loyalists in Congress and even the Missouri General Assembly. We will expose their plans and how even their favorite Republican member of Congress (yes, they have one) works to fulfill them.

If we contemplate for a second, whether it is realistic to assume that the marxists quit being marxists, in Russia, China and even the U.S., can we assume that the workers of the world decided to not unite? Did they pack up their tents and go home? Are Russian and Chinese leaders relinquishing power and creating new constitutional republics? Did the Communist Party USA shut their doors or just change their tactics? The answers to these questions are unquestionably obvious but uncomfortable to contemplate.

First published in 1848, the Manifesto had ten very specific goals (briefly examine their progress in the U.S. here). The most alarming tenet however, may be the assertion that communism will never really work until the entire World is communist. In other words, the true believers have a duty to spread it. What then is the duty of those opposed to it? What is IT?

Another alarming tenet of Marxism is the Machiavellian notion that the idea is so important and people so naturally resistant, that deception, propaganda and assorted treachery are not just hallmarks, but mandates. The history of their “class struggle” shows us their conviction that some must die. We wonder if Marx and Engels would have desired that upwards of 100 million should die. When you add up the slaughter of the “less useful” of the “useful idiots” in the lexicon of the Leninists, we have over 35 million human beings “sacrificed” for the cause in Russia alone. Add in Pol Pot, Castro, Chairman Mao and the estimated 3.5 million dead and still dying daily in North Korea, utopia has what most of us would view as one unacceptably high price. Some evidently are so untroubled by that legacy that they seek to spread the ideology of death despite the clear and modern existence of communist regimes like North Korea which kills people daily. Where are the calls of the marxists of the world for North Korea to stop killing people? Where are the calls of the leftists in Congress to China to stop paying bounties on escaped North Koreans who are sent back to die? The deafening silence is the natural sign of an allied relationship. The hard leftists view China as the partner.

If you ask a naval admiral who he or she fears the most, you will here it is China. The backwards Marxist state turned economic super power also has the most treacherous anti-ship missile known to man. Their spies have surpassed the Russians in both U.S. Government and corporate espionage. Worse, China and Russia have formed a military alliance even bringing Pakistan into their military alliance; the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

So if Russia and China are the first two columns allied against us, East and West, and Cuba and Venezuela make up the third column, certainly radical Islam is the fourth. We know that they work together allying against our interests around the World, against any civil, peaceful nation that is not communist or radicalized Islamist. So could the U.S. suffer a fifth column? Of course we could. Is it radical Islamic terror cells, Marxists, or both? If they are here, what goals would they have? Disarming us, maybe?

So while we bask in the blissful ignorance that the Cold War is over and China is our friendly neighborhood banker ever since Nixon went there, the Islamists, and communists among us are working for “change“. What are they changing? We know that the Democrats had two non-negotiable demands out of the failed budget deal: tax increases and military decreases. Do we have your attention yet?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; bipartisan; collectivists; communism; dangerous; feminists; homosexualists; jarrett; marxism; obama; republicrats; sedition
The world grows more dangerous while the democRATS work their butts off to destroy us economically and militarily.
1 posted on 11/20/2011 3:59:06 PM PST by FreeKeys
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To: FreeKeys
The world grows more dangerous while the democRATS work their butts off to destroy us economically and militarily.

Make that:
The world grows more dangerous while the democRATS work their butts off to emaciate our economy and our armed forces.

2 posted on 11/20/2011 4:01:24 PM PST by FreeKeys (Wealth "spreading" control freaks are STUPID! Their policies CAUSE shrinking economies!)
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To: FreeKeys

But let’s not forget that their destructive action is constitutionally protected.


3 posted on 11/20/2011 4:05:10 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: FreeKeys

Occupy Oakland Calls for TOTAL WEST COAST PORT SHUTDOWN ON 12/12
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2810033/posts

Occupy Oakland keeps fires burning & is joined by UC students, labor and bank protesters in SF
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2809668/posts


4 posted on 11/20/2011 4:15:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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5 posted on 11/20/2011 4:17:33 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: FreeKeys

Democrats aren’t sending American factories to China.

That’s the very same GOP. For the most part.

America first. That means you, GOP.


6 posted on 11/20/2011 4:17:48 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: FreeKeys

The fourth estate IS the fifth column.


7 posted on 11/20/2011 4:19:23 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: FreeKeys
24thState will be asking the question of the late Mr. Marx, “How is that working out for you?”

Considering for whom he was working in the Bund der Gerechten, things worked out just peachy in ridding themselves of that pesky middle class.

8 posted on 11/20/2011 4:22:49 PM PST by Carry_Okie (In the GOP, desperation is the mother of convention.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

?


9 posted on 11/20/2011 4:22:52 PM PST by ken21
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To: ken21

Seems clear enough.

Log in our own eye, and all.


10 posted on 11/20/2011 4:23:39 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: Running On Empty

marking


11 posted on 11/20/2011 4:24:15 PM PST by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: FreeKeys

This concept of human behavior, i.e., trying to form a viable society without using the principles of capitalism, has NEVER worked, because it does not take into consideration a singular quirk of personality shared with many lower forms of sentient beings besides human beings, which seems to be burned into our DNA.

There is an almost insatiable desire to acquire both basic necessities and items of interest to the individual, like a magpie filling its nest with bright shiny things, or a packrat collecting baubles that attract its interest. These traits are very apparent among much of the animal kingdom and are shared in full measure by mankind. Every species known develops a territorial fixation on its little part of the world, and defends it ferociously against any rivals or competing species.

Trying to deny this impulse to acquire “stuff” in human beings can only be enforced by fear and intimidation by a stronger personality, or at least one backed up by superior strengths imposed upon others. Communism, or its little brother Socialism, can succeed only if sufficiently large numbers of people can be compelled to surrender their possessions. Sometimes moral persuasion is enough, other times the individual may resist so strongly that violence, bloodshed and death are parts of the outcome.

Human beings do not adapt well to GroupThink. Eventually, somebody asks the bothersome question, “Why?” When there is no satisfactory answer, or no answer at all, “Why?” becomes “Who the H*ll are you to boss me around?”

At that point, all the fine theories of “social justice” and “equality” go flying out the window. The Borg cannot assimilate these rebellious elements, or if that somehow does happen, the rebellious elements destroy the Borg from within.

The Borg, like the former Soviet Union, is so vastly transformed, it finally reforms into some form of a capitalistic venture, if only to calm the most rebellious factions within its enbodiment.


12 posted on 11/20/2011 4:26:39 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’m somewhat inclined to agree but the problem is that the competition is going to find the cheapest labor so it doesn’t leave much of a choice.

It is interesting that we never did business with Russia like we do now the Chinese. We should never have allowed a communist country to buy our debt.

When NAFTA was signed I think everyone expected all of the jobs to go the Mexico. Why did everyone decide to go to China and not Mexico?


13 posted on 11/20/2011 4:32:49 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If obama and the Dems win in 2012, realize that not only will the GOP be extinct, but we will have a guaranteed depression, capital and productive people leaving the US, blood in the streets and secession movements. Obama will usher in a vicious police state and rule as a dictator by executive order/decree. We will never be able to peaceably restore our republic.
So if you are not a part of the anti-obama movement, are you a member of the communist Obama 5th column? Are you here to help Obama and the Dems destroy liberty? Obama means tyranny, Obama means death. Obama will rot in the lowest place in Hell with the great monsters of the 20th century.


14 posted on 11/20/2011 4:33:48 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero est un espece de merde.)
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To: FreeKeys

“The most alarming tenet however, may be the assertion that communism will never really work until the entire World is communist.”

And right there is the key. Ever notice how all the nut-job movements in the world, and in the history of the world rely on that single, simple component...that it will only work when the WHOLE world is subjugated to its tenets...

Islam
Communism
the Third Reich

idiots...


15 posted on 11/20/2011 4:33:58 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: killermosquito

The answer is a United States American trade policy.

We are the only nation on Earth without an aggressive trade policy.

That is why we LOSE.

We are the only ones surrendering. To our own adversaries.


16 posted on 11/20/2011 4:35:36 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: grumpygresh

It’s no use to be anti-Obama and anti-American at the same time.

Yes. I’m saying “free trade” is anti-American.


17 posted on 11/20/2011 4:36:35 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Steve Jobs (may he RIP) was a Republican? Who knew?


18 posted on 11/20/2011 4:40:42 PM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If we have 4 more years of obama, we won’t have to worry about any trade because economic activity will dry up everywhere. Turn your fire against obama first, he is anti-American through and through.


19 posted on 11/20/2011 4:41:57 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero est un espece de merde.)
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To: pingman

I sure don’t see any Republicans suggesting a pro-American trade policy.

Do you know of any?

Please do mention one. Duncan Hunter (marginalized). H. Ross Perot (marginalized).

Pat Buchanan (marginalized)

Donald Trump (marginalized)

So. Go ahead. One name would be enough.


20 posted on 11/20/2011 4:42:56 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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To: tet68
The fourth estate IS the fifth column.

"It's the enemedia." - Fred Nerks

21 posted on 11/20/2011 4:44:28 PM PST by FreeKeys ("Do not ever consider Collectivists as 'sincere but deluded idealists'." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: grumpygresh

>>>If obama and the Dems win in 2012, realize that not only will the GOP be extinct, but we will have a guaranteed depression, capital and productive people leaving the US, blood in the streets and secession movements. Obama will usher in a vicious police state and rule as a dictator by executive order/decree. We will never be able to peaceably restore our republic.<<<

Well, I agree with you, except for the last part. Restoration will occur in those parts of the United States where there are still people committed to the ideals of the American experiment. The rest will be left to hang separately, I suppose. I would think that the bloodshed and slaughter will occur in some locations - those places already controlled by the left - and it will be tough for them to work their way outside of those enclaves to the rest of us. Sort of like the Paris Commune, plus the French Revolution, with a little Pol Pot throw in for good measure. I can’t see the military throwing itself in with the left, although some police forces might, and certainly the leftist militias like the Black Panthers. The rest of us will see it and weep. In the end, the areas restored to the Constitutional republic will probably require all sorts of obligations and safeguards for other parts of the old United States to reform the union, and some places will be forever lost. And maybe some places will be gained - it would cool to have Alberta as a new state.

The other sad part of this prophecy is that the world will collectively go to hell with terrifying speed once the Americans are fighting among themselves. After that, I would imagine they’ll beg our return.


22 posted on 11/20/2011 4:49:46 PM PST by redpoll
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To: tet68
Good evening. I hope you are doing well.

The fourth estate IS the fifth column.

I pray there is not a reckoning. If there is, it will be ugly...very ugly.

5.56mm

23 posted on 11/20/2011 4:56:19 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: FreeKeys

Any idea on who their “favorite Republican member of Congress” is or do we have to wait on the next column?


24 posted on 11/20/2011 7:40:40 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: FreeKeys

The terms Communist, Progressive and Liberal as used by the left, all mean the same thing. Let me explain why. Carl Marx in 1848 finished writing and then published the Communist Manifesto. Over the next 30 to 40 years the book gained some followers, mostly self anointed elites with PHDs. ( Now there is a subject worth some grant money. Why are highly educated people with PHDs so susceptible to such an absurd philosophy.) As people became aware of their agenda, the communists picked the term progressive in an attempt to hide that agenda. Years later, the same problem, too many people have spotted the agenda again so they picked the term liberal. ( Note that the dictionary definitions of progressive and liberal are very far removed from the political definitions.)

One of the goals of their agenda is to infiltrate and take control of both major political parties. The Democrat party is at this time wholly controlled, 90% to 95%. The Republican party is 40% to 45% controlled. This leaves WE THE PEOPLE with very little true representation inside the belt way.

If we want to survive, as a nation, as a republic, we must flush the progressives from both parties, from all government offices, from the media, from positions of instruction, both public schools and universities. The progressive political philosophy must be rendered ineffectual, laughable, an object of ridicule. The progressive must be excoriated and driven out of any position of authority. Any adherent of such an absurd idea should never be paid more than minimum wage.

In a brief spasm of vigilantism, shooting or hanging fifteen too twenty thousand progressives would end their agenda for at least two hundred years.


25 posted on 11/20/2011 8:11:25 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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26 posted on 11/20/2011 8:12:20 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: FreeKeys; alloysteel; PubliusMM; redpoll; W. W. SMITH; All

Thanks for the post; comments. OUTSTANDING! Thanks to every poster. BTTT!


27 posted on 11/21/2011 5:27:58 AM PST by PGalt
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To: tet68
The fourth estate IS the fifth column

Tell 'em, brother !

media = enemy

28 posted on 11/21/2011 3:01:40 PM PST by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: grumpygresh
Your second sentence assumes survival.
Given the balance of your scenario, that seems a BIG assumption.
29 posted on 11/21/2011 3:09:39 PM PST by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: redpoll

I do think agree with your assessment. It may be possible to resurrect some semblance of a Constutional republic in parts of a divided US, but it will never be anything like it was before. If zero is re-elected, the secessionist principle will be the only thing between the individual and the boot of despots. Some sherrifs and governors might stand up to the feds, and this movement could gain momentum, but only the Lord knows how something like this would turn out.


30 posted on 11/21/2011 4:32:42 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero est un espece de merde.)
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To: grumpygresh

Thanks for the reply... yeah, we’re in for rough times. National collapse has happened many times in history, and it could happen here. God help us.


31 posted on 11/21/2011 4:41:59 PM PST by redpoll
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To: FreeKeys
The most alarming tenet however, may be the assertion that communism will never really work until the entire world is communist. In other words, the true believers have a duty to spread it.

UN and Obama, Hillary same globalist view

32 posted on 11/21/2011 4:59:28 PM PST by opentalk
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To: FreeKeys; 2ndDivisionVet; 353FMG; af_vet_rr; alloysteel; Carry_Okie; Cringing Negativism Network; ..
>>CP USA ... Did the Communist Party USA shut their doors or just change their tactics?

It's simple. The leaders of CP USA managed to install CHILDREN of their own into the executive branch of this government.

Valerie Jarrett (the 'brains' behind the telepromter) is the daughter-in-law of Vernon Jarrett, who was a leader in the CP USA. The elder Jarrett worked with and was close friends of Frank Marshall Davis, another CP USA member; and he was Obama's mentor; the man he referred to as Uncle Frank.

33 posted on 11/21/2011 8:33:13 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Future Useless Eater

...and possibly Mr. Obama’s real father...


34 posted on 11/21/2011 8:42:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thanks for the reminder. Thread BUMP!


35 posted on 11/21/2011 8:50:58 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Government subsidized GE, awarded numerous government contracts, headed by Obama jobs czar Immelt, has sent many jobs to China.

Then uses its media companies to spread the government's propaganda.

Wonder what technology they have also transferred to China.

36 posted on 11/22/2011 4:20:36 AM PST by opentalk
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