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NRA endorsement up for grabs in Montana's Senate race
thehill.com ^ | 20 November, 2011 | Peter Sullivan

Posted on 11/21/2011 11:05:54 AM PST by marktwain

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1 posted on 11/21/2011 11:05:57 AM PST by marktwain
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IMHO the NRA should only endorse candidates when it’s clearly a pro-gun vs. anti-gun candidate. If both candidates are pro-gun, just give us the ratings and the reasons for them, and let the members decide.


2 posted on 11/21/2011 11:12:40 AM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: marktwain; BigSkyFreeper; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; randita; ...
The NRA is a coveted endorsement in Montana. The Jon Tester/Denny Rehberg race is a key one in a state whose residents are conservative in most issues but also value seniority and tend to reelect incumbents.
3 posted on 11/21/2011 11:16:08 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Thanks Conrad Burns. Jerk.


4 posted on 11/21/2011 11:21:13 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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To: Hugin
IMHO the NRA should only endorse candidates when it’s clearly a pro-gun vs. anti-gun candidate. If both candidates are pro-gun, just give us the ratings and the reasons for them, and let the members decide.

I agree. However, I don't think that a candidate that belongs to a political party with an anti-individual liberty ideology should ever be considered a pro-gun candidate.

When push comes to shove, anti-abortion Democrats vote for abortion, Blue Dog Democrats vote for socialism, and gun-rights Democrats will vote for confiscation. It is who they are.

Their voting record of being for gun rights (when their vote isn't critical) in order to be electable means nothing, because when the time comes that their vote is critical, they will vote with the statists.

5 posted on 11/21/2011 11:32:24 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I think the NRA should not “endorse” ANY candidate. It is fine with me to give the ratings and the “skinny” on gun grabbers. They endorsed Ton Periello (D)in Va in 2010, who lost to Robert Hurt (R). Periello would have sold his soul to Obama. I called the NRA and raised hell with them but it was a wasted call. I canceled my subscription.
6 posted on 11/21/2011 11:36:05 AM PST by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: SampleMan

Agreed. And I fear the National REID Association will go the wrong way on this Montana endorsement, and support another Senator who filibusters GOP picks while loving Kagan, Sotomayor, et al.


7 posted on 11/21/2011 11:44:24 AM PST by pogo101
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However, I don't think that a candidate that belongs to a political party with an anti-individual liberty ideology should ever be considered a pro-gun candidate.

I disagree. There is a reason that no gun control laws even made it to a vote in the 2009/2010 Congress. It's because there were enough pro-gun Congressmen and Senators who told the gun-grabbers in the Democrat caucus meetings tht they would vote against them. And yes, that includes Dingy Harry, who never once scheduled a floor vote, and even voted to allow carrying in National Parks. That's why the NRA is well advised to remain a single issue, nonpartisan organization.

8 posted on 11/21/2011 11:46:37 AM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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The big question, which the article didn’t mention, is how did Tester vote on Obama’s anti-gun Supreme Court nominations.


9 posted on 11/21/2011 11:55:21 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Hugin
There is a reason that no gun control laws even made it to a vote in the 2009/2010 Congress.

Yes, the reason is because they were busy passing socialized medicine and didn't want to pick too many fights at the same time. Its called divide and conquer.

Tell me, how did those "pro-gun" Democrats vote on Obama's anti-gun SCOTUS picks, Holder's confirmation, etc.?

As I said, the day that a "pro-gun" Democrat is the deciding vote on firearm confiscation is the day that it will pass.

Do you understand what a canard is?

10 posted on 11/21/2011 11:58:33 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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The NRA thinks that gun rights can stand on their own w/o the rest of the BOR and Constitution. That’s why they give endorsements to the enemies of liberty.
Aside from 2A, the NRA couldn’t give a rat’s a** about the rest of the Constitution. They kind of remind me of all those other Quislings, Lavals etc. throughout history. Those collaborators were always willing to make deals with the enemy.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 12:01:10 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero est un espece de merde.)
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To: Hugin
Think of it this way, can you logically rectify a liberty sucking statist and a 2A advocate as the same person? No its impossible. The two positions are mutually exclusive. Therefore, when someone claims to hold both positions, you should immediately question their fidelity to the cause.

If I told you that I hate pastry, I think pastry should be illegal, I think foods fried in oil should be illegal, I think non-gluten food is all that should be available, BUT I stand by your right to eat donuts. Would you really feel that your box of Krispy Kreams was safe from my grasp?

Thus is the paradox of the pro-gun Democrat. They just haven't acted on their convictions YET.

12 posted on 11/21/2011 12:08:47 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Tell me, how did those "pro-gun" Democrats vote on Obama's anti-gun SCOTUS picks, Holder's confirmation, etc.?

As I said, the day that a "pro-gun" Democrat is the deciding vote on firearm confiscation is the day that it will pass.

You nailed it, SampleMan. There is no such thing as a "good Democrat".

They might pretend to be pro-gun, might even vote pro-gun on unimportant issues. But when their vote is needed on the key issues, they will go with the Marxists every time.

If the NRA endorses any Democrat for the House or Senate in 2012, they will never get another nickle from me.

13 posted on 11/21/2011 12:48:13 PM PST by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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Maybe Tester can ask Harry Reid for some help getting a pork barrel grant for a gun range. It bought NRA’s endorsement of Reid. Should do the trick for Tester too.

The NRA supports candidates who pay lip service to the 2nd Amendment while spending their time in D.C. turning the country into a socialist mess.

If Reid, Tester, and their ilk were truly pro-Second Amendment, they would be calling for Eric Holder’s resignation after the “Fast and Furious” scandal, a botched operation that was intended by the Obama Administration as an excuse to curtail “assault weapons” to “prevent violence.”


14 posted on 11/21/2011 12:56:21 PM PST by peyton randolph (B. Hussein Obama solved Bush's "problem" of a AAA credit rating)
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The NRA endorsed the congressman from my district, John Barrow (D) in the last two elections and he is a Nancy Pelosi a$$ kisser. I’ve threatened dropping my membership before but have given them one more chance. If they endorse him this time I’m thru with them.

Their aren’t any good Dems or pro gun Dems when it gets down to crunch time. They will always suck up and vote the way Pelosi and Reid demand of them.

The NRA needs to remember there will probably be changes in the SCOTUS over the next presidential term and if the Dems hold the senate you can bet they will not let a pro gun judge on the court. SCOTUS is where your right to own a gun will be taken from you if a conservative justice is replaced by an Obama liberal.


15 posted on 11/21/2011 1:06:06 PM PST by bestrongbpositive
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and of course lets not forget testy voted to confirm two sc justices that will vote against the 2nd every chance they get


16 posted on 11/21/2011 3:43:10 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: marktwain
That 'A' rating from the NRA is probably from the last time the NRA rated Tester.

With Tester's vote to confirm Holder, Sotomayor and Kagan, and with Rehberg's A+, this should be a no-brainer for the NRA.

17 posted on 11/21/2011 6:41:06 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Wasn’t Burns railroaded?

BTW Tester is not pro-gun. Gun owners of America gives Tester an F!! An F!!! The NRA needs to get with the program. And they damn well need to put the “non-partisan” stuff in the rearview. Pro-Gun democrats support anti-gun rat leadership but they don’t bother to take that into account. Unless the Republican is actually less pro-gun no pro-gun Republican should ever get shafted in favor of a pro-gun rat. Tiebreaker should go to the party that’s not run by nazis.

Irrelevant in this case since Tester is a gun-grabbing liberal liar. A great many allegedly pro-gun and NRA supported rats have D’s or F’s from the GOA. Very interesting. Maybe the GOA is too strict but the NRA is definitely too lax and gives out it’s support like Lindsay Lohan gives out Lindsay Lohan.


18 posted on 11/22/2011 12:51:59 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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Burns was indeed railroaded. He pleaded he was innocent and he absolutely was.


19 posted on 11/22/2011 6:33:26 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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“Wasn’t Burns railroaded?”

He was involved with Jack Abramoff. IIRC, he was a dead man walking for reelection in 2006 and polling data showed Rehberg beating Tester. If Burns had done the right thing and stepped aside, think of the importance of keeping that Senate seat would have been.

I quit the NRA and joined GOA ~2 years ago. Like you said, the NRA is WAYYYYYYYY to lax and they endorse Rats. No thanks.

“Lindsay Lohan gives out Lindsay Lohan.” Thank you for the laugh!!! :)

20 posted on 11/22/2011 8:42:45 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (And who doesn't have baggage?)
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