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Arab states, Turkey plan 'No-Fly Zone' over Syria ("backed by American logistic support")
Albawaba.com ^ | 11-22-11 | unattributed

Posted on 11/22/2011 4:39:17 PM PST by dynachrome

Senior European sources said that Arab jet fighters, and possibly Turkish warplanes, backed by American logistic support will implement a no fly zone in Syria's skies, after the Arab League will issue a decision, under its Charter, calling for the protection of Syrian civilians. The sources told Kuwait's al Rai daily that the no fly ban will include a ban on the movement of Syrian military vehicles, including tanks, personnel carriers and artillery, adding that this move would aim at curbing the movement of Assad forces, and cripple their ability to bomb cities. The European sources said the no fly ban might lead to the paralysis of the Syrian regime forces "in less than 24 hours." Meanwhile, it is reported that the leadership of the Turkish General Staff informed all the concerned parties with the Syrian issue its rejection of the idea that the Turkish army would launch any invasion to the Syrian territory including the area adjacent to the Turkish border to establish a "buffer zone" to protect civilians fleeing the violence.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; kurdistan; lebanon; muzzies; nato; noflyzone; syria; turkey
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To: dynachrome

This may be bluster to put more pressure on Assad’s regime.

Is there a serious, credibly military and logistical plan for this???

I know that the IAF has kicked the SAF’s butts hard in the past, but without Israeli involvement (pretty unthinkable with current Turkish and Arab sentiments toward Israel), it would all depend upon Turkey’s capabilities and commitment.

Syria would not roll over, and it would be a tougher nut than Libya I’d guess....

Not saying it can’t be done militarily, but if Syria puts up a solid fight (big ‘if’ I know) Turkey would face serious losses even with their NATO quality forces.

I’m not saying this is not possible, either militarily or diplomatically, just that it seems unlikely to me. It would be a much tougher task than the no-fly zone over Libya.


41 posted on 11/23/2011 8:37:54 AM PST by Enchante
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To: shield

Indirect Perry ping


42 posted on 11/23/2011 9:01:22 AM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: Gene Eric; Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; ...
p> Perry Ping....

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43 posted on 11/23/2011 9:09:43 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Zhang Fei; Truth29

A better plan would be to fire their missles at Israel. Sure, Israel would likely pound the hell out of them. but the rest of the Muslim world would have to rally to Assad’s side. They coudln’t afford to be seen as stabbing a frontline state in the back while they are fighting the hated Jews.

Too bad for Saddam and Khadaffi they didn’t have a border with Israel.


44 posted on 11/23/2011 11:50:49 AM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: odds

The Empah passed from the scene by 1967 when they withdrew from east of Aden.


45 posted on 11/23/2011 1:32:09 PM PST by RitchieAprile (Precious little in your life is yours by right and won without a fight..)
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To: dynachrome

Are there still US assets in Libya? Didn’t they win yet? Best damned thing that could happen right now is the fall of Assad, however that’s accomplished. Suddenly, Iran and Hizbollah are short a partner.


46 posted on 11/23/2011 1:43:34 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Assad could support the Turkish Kurds. Turkey could support the Syrian Kurds. Israel could support the Turkish, Syrian and Iranian Kurds, and also Iranian student dissidents. Let the good times roll.


47 posted on 11/23/2011 1:50:54 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: dynachrome

Yep war #4 since Uganda hasn’t sprouted yet. Also Yemen sorta fell a bit this week...another fracas we’re in thanks to the Nobel dynamite prize guy.


48 posted on 11/23/2011 2:41:57 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, "...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Karliner

Egypt still has possibilities.


49 posted on 11/23/2011 3:13:44 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: dynachrome
Turd Ferguson offers the following potential scenario:

1) In the name of "civilian safety", NATO begins "kinetic military action" vs Syria.

2) Iran responds as support for their ally.

3) Israel now has "cover" to attack Iran nuclear facilities.

4) Iran unleashes attack on Israel and activates "cells" all over Europe and in U.S.

50 posted on 11/23/2011 3:46:26 PM PST by Brandybux (Oportet ministros manus lavare antequam latrinam relinquent.)
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To: dynachrome
We have the worlds biggest aircraft carrier directly adjacent to Syria from which to launch planes.

It's called Iraq and we have massive infrastructure there which is a lot easier and cheaper to operate from than an aircraft carrier.

Perhaps we should keep our forces there to deal with any instability in the region rather than withdraw

52 posted on 11/23/2011 9:05:37 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Enchante; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

“Is there a serious, credibly military and logistical plan for this???”

You are right, the Syrian military would probably be a lot tougher than Libya, especially with Syria having 5 times the population. On the other hand, the area is a lot smaller, so the logistics might be easier. Also, I wonder how the number of Syrian military defecters/rebel fighters compares with the same situation in Libya?


53 posted on 11/24/2011 9:52:00 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: American Constitutionalist; All

Turkeys can fly (wild ones). I once saw a flock take off about 30 feet from me. It was impressive.


54 posted on 11/24/2011 9:53:45 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
“Is there a serious, credibly military and logistical plan for this???”

Thunderstruck?

55 posted on 11/24/2011 9:58:49 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen. --> AmeriCain)
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To: gleeaikin

Arther Carlson found out the hard way that non - wild Turkeys can not fly.


56 posted on 11/24/2011 11:02:23 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: gleeaikin

Still, that was one of the greatest WKRP shows.


57 posted on 11/24/2011 11:03:20 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: maquiladora
And there is no way Russia/China will allow that to pass.

Russia has a military (naval) base in Syria, so it has every reason to support "their SOB" in power. (After all, he is reasonably good at keeping the lid on Muslim extremism.) I don't think Russia will agree to stop flying over Syria, and any attack on a Russian airplane will be a direct attack on Russia. Medvedev and Putin are ready for this; but what about Obama?

Israel is probably also not all that enthused about having another "Arab Spring" on its borders. At very least you can deal with Assad. As every dictator, he has a target on his back, and he wants to live. This is not so with a nameless, faceless "revolutionary committee" who can send thousands of soldiers (or terrorists, if there is a difference) across the border and not fear any personal repercussions. Look at AQ, for example. Only a handful of top AQ bosses were killed; the rest are roaming free, and we probably don't even know who most of them are; "Mullah Achmed" is not a sufficient identification. Even the top Taliban boss, Mullah Omar, who is well known because of his political status before the war, is happily leading from behind for about ten years now.

58 posted on 11/24/2011 7:48:49 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Karliner

Don’t mess with those peace prize winners!/s;)


59 posted on 11/24/2011 8:00:42 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001

Copy that five by five, he’s untouchable*cough cough*!


60 posted on 11/25/2011 7:13:26 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, "...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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