Posted on 11/23/2011 7:07:09 AM PST by SkyPilot
Edited on 11/23/2011 7:09:19 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
PENSACOLA NAVAL AIR STATION, Fla.
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Because you have to do that in order to save much. Other wise you are just doing the same flying somewhere else.
One could actually save the same amount by not running a couple of aircraft carriers for a day....if that LOL.
You are cutting in the wrong spot. Washington is the place to cut. Shut the government down for a month with no pay and see how much you save vs production lost. Probably wont even notice the dif. And the places where you see no production loss whatso ever ...fire 25 % of the employees.
Do the EBT cards still work? Are the dual household Social Security checks still being direct deposited? Is that SSDI payment still being paid?
Our $15 Trillion in debt is strangling us as a nation, but it wasn't military spending that is breaking our back. Spending on the defense is now barely 3.5% of GDP.
What is bankrupting us is Entitlements - and that exponential disease is growing every day.
So are nice congressional offices, most of the White house staff, and a lot of other things.
There is NO MONEY! You can't say “Well my pet project doesn't cost to much in the grand scheme of things!”. Everyone can say that will a 15 Trillion dollar debt.
Everything has to be cut. Everything has to be on the table. If we really want to reduce our debt, you have to cut deep, and not just into things that are nice to have, but not needed.
I’ve heard ‘no more money’ for a decades but things are still happening.
If there was really ‘no more money’ we’d have zero military whatsoever.
There is still a lot of money out there. It’s where it goes that is the problem.
What are our incoming taxes, what our our outgoing expenses, and where does the difference come from?
Once the bond auctions fail (like they did in Germany), the game stops.
The tiny costs of the Blue Angels or NASA aren’t the issues.
Want to cut expenses? Phase out SS in the next 15 years.
Don’t chase ants, go after the elephant. It’s politically impossible though, even conservatives won’t go after the big targets.
Everybodies sacred cows will have to be made into burger. Cut SS while keeping things like the blue angles will not work. Go on any FR SS thread to see just how that goes over. Everything need to be on the block.
Well, people apparently fail math I guess. You don’t expect .0001% to matter when 75% is off the table.
If you have to cut that tiny amount to get 1% off the big one, you’ve not really gained much except bragging rights.
If SS will be cut by 75% to get rid of those tiny budget items, ok. Heck, I’d say a 20% cut on SS/Medicare and I’ll get rid of the smaller stuff.
We all know though that the low fruit are things like this article and nothing will be done on the big ones.
1. There is money. Trillions of dollars. Yes, 40 cents of every dollar is borrowed. But the amount of money being spent is immense; almost incalculable.
2. Everything is not "on the table", and Entitlements never wereon the table during this disastrous Super Committee debt deal to begin with.
Do you understand that this is what has happened, and is happening?
Entitlements are protected, and growing at almost the rate of cancer cells.
Defense has been mortally wounded with cuts, and now on top of that it is being eviscerated.
I read it aloud to my wife this morning over our Thanksgiving breakfast and coffee.
You captured the problems and the deep rooted problems of this nation. I believe the core problem for this nation is ultimately spiritual. Not as in "new age" spiritual, but Judeo-Christian spiritual - for we have rejected God Almighty, and we as a nation are reaping as we have sown.
There is always hope if we pray to God. Prayer changes things. And for that, I can continue on.
Have a blessed and happy Thanksgiving.
We go to the SS recipients, and tell them “You are getting massive cuts, but that is OK, the Blue Angels will keep flying!”
Remember, we have SS people on FR saying we need sell our national parks to China to pay them off. Politically, how well will that work?
The military is going to be scaled back. Massively. We have been playing world policeman to long, and just like Great Britain before us, can't keep doing it. The reality is that both military spending and entitlements will be cut.
And if 40 to 50% of all that I spend is done on credit, I am broke. There is no money. If you did that in your household, you would rapidly come to the conclusion that you need to scale back your lifestyle. Including the “little perks and frills”. We have been spending like madmen for 60 years, and we have to stop.
I know that you are emotionally connected to the subject, but would you be defending a study on the sexual habits of Mexican tree slugs as “Just a little bit, not really that much money?”
Someone should make a Red Dawn-type movie where all the performance acts in the military end up saving the nation :-)
No.
The way it should be approached is realize that Social Security is a tax, it was a tax, and it always has been a tax.
There is no "trust fund" and people are not receiving "their money." On this point Gov Rick Perry was correct - it is a Ponzi scheme whereby the current recipients are bankrupting the country through excessive taxes and through debt.
The reality is that both military spending and entitlements will be cut.
Really? That "reality" isn't happening right now, is it? Entitlements were not even 'on the table' when the Joint Resolution Committee walked into the room.
Will Entitlements be on the table in the future? Will they be scaled back? Will the Cost of Living raises be readjusted so that the programs don't bankrupt our nation even faster than they are now?
I doubt it. Entitlements are political payoffs for votes - and I have seen very few politicians want to tackle them.
I only see them ending or being scaled back after a complete global economic collapse - which ironically now seems more and more likely and less the meanderings of the doomsday prophets of yesteryear. The European economies are collapsing because of Entitlements, and our economy is as well.
If I were to assign "moral equivalency" to Entitlements, I would do it this way. The first people who should be in line disabled veterans and retired military. After that, would be the rest, including Social Security and Medicaid. But, I acknowledge that at least (most) Social Security recipients paid their taxes while working, and had not the system been corrupted and raided in the past the program would not be the train wreck that it is. But, it is still a tax Ponzi scheme, no matter how you slice it. Bringing up the rear would be the perpetual welfare lazy collecting their AFDC, Section 8 housing, EBT cards, day care, subsidized utilities, and the rest. Dead last would be illegal aliens who suck off the welfare and Social Security system. There is no money.
Talking to you is like talking to a wall on this subject. First of all, there is a hell of alot of money involved in this. To the tune of Trillions. There is money - lot's of it borrowed, and the rest of it confiscated via taxation. But there is money, and it is being spent like a water hose. Democrats and most of those getting the checks in their ATM accounts want to see that money rolling in. And that's just our current payouts. There are also about 60 Trillion in unfunded liabilities, but that is another conversation. But there is money all right. Lots of it. And the Fed is printing it by the metric ton.
What you need to realize is that our priorities cannot be paying out thousands of dollars per year to people because those voters "want it."
I can almost guarantee you one thing (given human history, evil in the world, and our sinfulness as human beings): there is going to be another terrible war in our lifetime. A real war. You go to war with what you have. And here is the rub - our military will be expected to work magic in the opening days and weeks of that war, and the American people are going to be in for one hell of a wake up call. Because we are not 1/2 the military (in equipment, numbers, bases, weapons, and infrastructure) today than we were when Reagan was President.
We are going to get shellacked in the next war, and when the people cry and ask "How could this happen?!" - I am going to tell them to look at their Entitlement Direct Deposit slip.
A key purpose of periodic military demonstrations is to shake the bones of our domestic enemies. The message is: don't even think it. They despise the Blue Angles. We actually get a lot of bang for our buck out of military air shows.
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