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Why Do I Have A Problem With Ron Paul?
The Hayride ^ | 22 November 2011 | MacAoidh

Posted on 11/23/2011 9:34:55 AM PST by LSUfan

There are lots of reasons.

But here’s one. Ron Paul isn’t serious about the most basic requisite of a national government, which is defense.

Paul’s position just isn’t one reflective of serious leadership. The idea that the federal government doesn’t have an obligation to PREVENT a Timothy McVeigh or a Mohammed Atta or a Major Hasan from doing evil to innocent Americans is one which can’t be found in the head of anybody who understands what it means to be president.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2012; 911truther; civilliberties; constitution; elections; gop; jihad; libertarians; newt; noninterventionism; paul; paulbots; randpaultruthfile; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile; terrorism
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1 posted on 11/23/2011 9:34:57 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

With Ron Paul we could breathe easy and never know what hit us. LOL


2 posted on 11/23/2011 9:38:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: LSUfan
Not to forget the fact that Ron Paul is certainly ok with Iran getting nuclear capalities, including the Bomb.

The guy may be right on issues pertaining to the Dollar and the Fed, but he's a kook on damn' near everything else.

3 posted on 11/23/2011 9:41:19 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: LSUfan

He wants us to hide in a hole and hope no one notices us.


4 posted on 11/23/2011 9:45:43 AM PST by DejaJude
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I think his main point is who the TSA and the Department Homeland Target.

For instance, yesterday the Department of Homeland Security warned us about frying a frozen Turkey. Really??? This is from an agency that has received Billions!

At the very same time this agency ignored the OWS shutting down ports in the West. They ignored OWS attempt to shut down wall street. They ignored that Terrorist in New York that was just recently caught. Keep in mind they ignore the borders of our nation while shaking down grandmothers, vets, Nuns and little babies

So in other words every time we want one of these agencies to go after the bad guys they end up targeting Americans. Reminds me of an old Benjamin Franklin quote,

“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

5 posted on 11/23/2011 9:48:56 AM PST by Sprite518
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Ron Paul’s foreign policy duplicates Europe’s denial of the NAZI threat in the 1930s.


6 posted on 11/23/2011 9:49:20 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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Basically the TSA and Department of Homeland Security only target people that disagree with the Administration instead of going after the bad guys. Remember this is the Administration that does not like to associate Islam with Terrorist.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 9:51:30 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: LSUfan

This is my main problem with Ron Paul. He seems to think that we live back in the 1800’s and those that would attack us are also. In today’s world, we best be ready for anything and plan accordingly. If we were attacked again, I’m afraid he would just want to study the situation and try and figure out what our country did wrong to foster an attack. Then he would try and work something out with the attackers. I want a President that would get totally pissed off and react accordingly. Ron Paul would never do this.


8 posted on 11/23/2011 9:53:02 AM PST by RC2
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To: LSUfan

I agree Paul is weak on our security and he always looks like someone grabbed his crotch.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 9:54:31 AM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: LSUfan

One other thing that Ron Paul doesn’t seem to get is the human race has been at war since the beginning of recorded history. Last I saw, there has only been seven years, since recorded history, when there hasn’t been a major conflict some place in the world. If our leaders don’t understand this, we can never be prepared for a conflict. Even the Romans knew that “During times of peace, always plan for war.” It’s sad, but that’s the way it is.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 9:57:01 AM PST by RC2
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To: LSUfan

On the other hand, opening the door to “preventative” action, brings all kinds of unintended consequences, as bad or worse than those arising from isolationism.

The truth is, we need to be somewhere in between total isolation and total intervention. And we’re a lot closer to the interventionist side right now.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 9:57:04 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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“Why Do I Have A Problem With Ron Paul?”

OTHER than the fact that he is fuggin nutz, and the MSM uses him to reinforce the “Conservatives are INSANE NUTJOBS” meme?


12 posted on 11/23/2011 9:59:06 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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I want a President that would get totally pissed off and react accordingly.

Good luck with that.

What you'll get, more than likely, is a president who will commit troops to involvement, and then tie their hands with rules of engagement. Both Obama and Bush have done this.

13 posted on 11/23/2011 9:59:13 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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Exactly! I’m not sure when America was hired to police the world, but frankly the pay sucks. Seems like We The People pay for the US to do the job while other countries, secure in the knowledge of the mighty US military backing them, are free to ignore their own defense. When they then join in the America-bashing for doing their job for them, I get baffled.

Want us to help or not? When the dollars flow, they want us but if the flow begins to diminish to a trickle we become the Big Bad Wolf. And, Lord help the USA if we ask them for help!

We’re far too involved and interventionist now but how does a country logically move towards isolationism given the current world threats? Fight ‘em over there or fight ‘em over here? Easy answer to that but it does have costs associated with it.


14 posted on 11/23/2011 10:10:00 AM PST by RonInNaples
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To: tcrlaf

Don’t forget the Paulbots.


15 posted on 11/23/2011 10:16:13 AM PST by allblues
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I also don’t think that we ever truly were an Isolationist Republic.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 10:22:24 AM PST by Amerikan_Samurai
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To: LSUfan

One word: “Truther”


17 posted on 11/23/2011 10:34:37 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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Someone should force current presidential candidates to read Sun Tsu’s “The Art of War”...

Because they all (even Bachmann) approach war(and immigration) as if they were somebodys grand mother.. and are afraid of being called “MEAN”.. or “heartless”..

Currently the Joint chiefs of Staff are a like a Granny coffee klach.. a military tribunal by the hosts of “The View”.. Military decisions made by “Old Women”..

What do they teach at West Point?.. “Cooking?”... and Crocheting?.. maybe “feminine hygiene?”


18 posted on 11/23/2011 10:48:41 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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Prevention of Hasan and Atta wanna-be’s is easy. Do to Islam what Rome did to Carthage.

Islam is a cancer - radiation is the answer.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 10:57:07 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: LSUfan
The idea that the federal government doesn’t have an obligation to PREVENT a Timothy McVeigh or a Mohammed Atta or a Major Hasan from doing evil to innocent Americans is one which can’t be found in the head of anybody who understands what it means to be president.

Way to totally misrepresent what Paul said. Paul's position, which he stated in the debate, was that the Patriot Act, the TSA, the DHS, and all this other police state crap is unnecessary to prevent terrorism. Law enforcement could easily stop terrorism if they wanted to before any of this was enacted.

The War on Terror is a fraud. If Bush or Obama were serious about preventing real terror they would have closed our borders instead of keeping them wide open to ten of millions of un-tracked and untraceable foreigners and they would have stopped legal immigration from Muslim countries. The Muslim terrorist boogieman is hyped up to trick gullible Americans into supporting Globalist military adventures abroad and a domestic police state.

The real reason for the Patriot Act, the DHS, and the TSA is to protect the FEDGOV and its anti-America Globalist Bankster masters from angry American citizens who will be beyond P.O.'ed when they realize the Banksters and FEDGOV have stolen their liberty, their wealth, and their futures.

20 posted on 11/23/2011 11:15:51 AM PST by Roninf5-1
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