Skip to comments.Survival Shop Reports Jump In Sales To People Preparing For “Possible Collapse”
Posted on 11/23/2011 1:17:17 PM PST by caper gal 1
WEBSTER GROVES, MO (KMOX) - A chain of three stores that sells survival food and gear reports a jump in sales to people who are getting prepared for the possible collapse of society.
We had to order fifty cases of the meals ready to eat to keep up with the demand in the past three months, said manager Steve Dorsey at Uncle Sams Safari Outfitters Inc. in Webster Groves. Thats not normal. Usually we sell 20 to 30 cases in a whole year.
Dorsey says business has been brisk since the spring uprisings in the middle east, as customers share concerns about political uprisings, the world economy and the future of the United States
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Don’t worry. It can’t happen here. Honest. Really . . . right?
Still, complete breakdown, such as the doomsayers envision, is just not in the cards, unless there is a nuclear attack with EMP and/or blast damage in major cities. I rate the probability of this as very low.
In the Depression most people grew some food.
A collapse of society could occur in a financial/economic collapse. If supermarkets are looted then there won’t be much food left for everyone else. EMP/Nuclear attacks are not the only threat.
Black clouds cover the horizon, the lightening is flashing and there is the distant sound of thunder! The storm flags are going up, who you heed them?
I am very aware that if its the great end that there is nothing I can do to stop or change it, but history is full of instances and times when man or nature have caused such a calamity that people have cried out and begged God to end it all.
The bible has many verse such as this:
A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3
This verse and others are there for a reason and I urge all to take heed of them, because we are clearly on the edge. Everyday there is a new story about the Yutes who grow more restless everyday and when you add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge it wont take much to set things off.
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8) (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. Theyre a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You dont believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.
Today we have yutes who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same doll eyes a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.
That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the yutes. On the other hand the yutes wont think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.
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For those of you who havent started already its time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
For a somber, yet realistic look at what SHFT is like read some of Selcos post:
If you like to read more about what SHTF in Bosnia was like take a look at this post on Bosnia War Survivor Selcos Blog at:
There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.
As the LDS say When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.
This all really comes down to the fact that there are no trends to the positive and lot of trends continuing more negative.
I tell everyone that will listen that you do not want to be anywhere near a retail or grocery store when the wheels come off. We have millions who are absolutely dependent on Uncle Sugah for their daily sustenance. When the checks stop coming, it’s Katie bar the door and you will truly see the ugly side of humanity.
Better to let them eat themselves but have a plan to keep them from you and yours.
You forgot their allies flying the Republican flag.
If I were wealthy, I would be looking to see what friendly nation I would set up an alternate residence in.
There are ways to 'go international' that anybody can afford. I did it 10 years ago and it proved to be one of the best moves I ever made. All it takes is a leap of faith.
If I had to pick a country today as a remote safe haven it would be Panama, BTW.
I beg to differ it doesn’t take much nor long for SHTF.
For a somber, yet realistic look at what real SHFT is like read some of Selcos post:
China and other nations announce they will no longer use the dollar as default currency....or perhaps the US defaults on its debt.
The value of the dollar falls badly...it is becoming an hourly watch to see what the dollar is worth.
Meanwhile, truck drivers that need to buy diesel fuel to run cannot afford it because the price is over $100 per gallon and rising. The same fuel that trains use to transport coal to power plants is near unaffordable. Large portions of the country go dark for extended periods. People flood to their food and grocery stores to stock up. It won't take long for the shelves to be empty. After a few weeks of this, it is only getting worse as gangs of inner city animals start moving outward to the suburbs looking for food and fun as they rape and pillage anyone who can't defend themselves. The spiral downward will continue unabated as the rule of law at the local level breaks down because the local constabulary has no officers...they're home defending their turf against the horde. (I know a great many LEOs...this will happen.)
No EMP necessary at all.
So true. In the Depression 80% lived on farms and about 20% in the cities. Now its just the opposite. If we have a bank shutdown and people cannot used their atm cards it will be mass chaos. The grocery stores will be emptied in a day. There will be rioting outside the banks. Wait til those GA Peach cards won’t swipe at the sto no mo. The inner city will be a nightmare. Everybody should have some beans and bullets put away.
I listened to a brodcast the other night that featured a researcher named Matt Stein. He wrote a couple books, one of which is “When Technology Fails...”
He was very well informed and knew what he was talking about.
His main fear is not atomic attack or EMP.
The reason is the way things are set up. US uses or has online some 2,000 of these huge like 350KV transformers.
In 1929 there was a solar storm that, if it happened today, would blow a good many of these to kingdom come.
We make ZERO of them in the United States.
Current wait time for new ones IS ABOUT TWO YEARS!
OK.... so that happened in 1929... big deal...
except there were two solar storms in 1890 that were even bigger.
And it looks like the solar max we are heading into now is gonna be a doozie!!!
Will society have a complete and total breakdown/collapse? I honestly don’t know, and I don’t know what the official criteria for a breakdown would be. But never underestimate two things: (1) the amazingly thin veneer that allows us to maintain the appearance of normalcy. How civilized will we appear when we have gone two days without a meal..a week without a meal? (2) The power of mass psychology or group-think. If as few as 20% of Americans think that we have reached that nebulous state of breakdown, then it won’t take long until 40% believe it, then 50%, then 75%, etc. The danger is not whether we truly break (again, whatever that means), it’s the social psychological effect of ever increasing numbers who believe it will happen or is already happening. A self-fulfilling prophecy on steroids.
Let me put in a plug for some friends of mine at SurviveUSA in northeastern Arkansas, near Evening Shade. They are doing land-office business. www.surviveusa.com
A stash of cash as well.
“Still, complete breakdown, such as the doomsayers envision, is just not in the cards, unless there is a nuclear attack with EMP and/or blast damage in major cities. I rate the probability of this as very low.”
Widespread rioting and looting is not so far-fetched.
The only con of M4 clones is the anemic 5.56 cartridge, which is so underpowered it is illegal for deer hunting in many states.
Every responsible citizen needs a serious rifle. Do your research carefully. There is much information and disinformation on the net. Talk to people who actually own the weapon you are considering.
....anybody ever see that Farside cartoon where the mob is heading one way with torches and pitch forks and one of them has a bubble thought going upward of a kiosk market table with a sign poted on it “Torches x dollars, pitch forks y dollars”.
Empty shelves will inspire future millionaires. This is America.
...plants will open, those logistics geniuses will get the materials.
“The virtue of hope is in earthquake and eclipse” - G.K. Chesterton.
Good post, Sam.
I envision things kinda along the same lines. Anarchists, OWS types, (fill in your thug here) take a few pot shots at fuel truck drivers. Their union, somewhat sympathetic to the nuts anyway, goes on strike. The miners, railroaders and tug boat operators soon do the same. Maybe a “tragic” refinery fire for good measure. Gas stations and grocery stores run out, the lights go out and the cops and National Guard are home guarding their turf. Commerce grinds to a halt.
Hungry desperate people lash out for sustenance. Dollars are useless, except for lighting cigars, if one had a cigar. Gunfire is heard, mostly at night. The thin veneer of civilization is stripped away in a fortnight. How does it end? Who knows?
Sorry for the melodramatic post, but that’s why I prep. If nothing happens, the local church food bank makes out and my son has a nice firearms collection.
Today’s market reaction to Germany was truly disturbing. GERMANY...not puny Greece or pathetic Italy. We may really have a BLACK Friday in 2 days, with the Dow down HARD. With Van Jones promising a “stage 2” of OWS next year, a “societal collapse” is not just possible, but probable.
It is reminiscent of the bomb shelter and survival crazes in the ‘50s and then again in the ‘70s. Isn’t it interesting that what drove those “survival” movements and this one was/is Marxism (Soviet Union).
In the face of all those, the Marxists and their useful Government out-of-control spending.
I find it equally ludicrous that the very person who demonized tax cuts now extends them and claims he’as a “tax cutter”. Yet, at least 40% of the population think he’s the smartest man on earth and it’s all Bushs’ fault.
Another day in Obamaland.
So how’s the “hope and change” working out for everyone?
Better off just making a pantry and filling it with long-term goods you normally eat, and rotating through it. Besides most things if kept cool and dry - if they are in sealed packaging - can be just fine years after their sell-by or best-by dates.
How to explain it?
I was so surprised that the owner wasn’t prepared. Sometimes I think I’m crazy to have so much food in the basement but when I look at the stacks of toilet paper that stretch to the ceiling, I get warm fuzzy feelings.
The 5.56 cartridge is not anemic in its civilian version (.223), loaded with softpoint or hollowpoint ammunition. Civilians are not bound by any treaties to use non expanding ammunition, and the .223 becomes a whole ‘nother animal with such.Perhaps not the ideal cartridge, but quite effective nevertheless.
Now consider what you just wrote and contrast that to the bellicose class warfare Obama has been demagoging, you know, the same kind of thing a certain German leader did in the 1930âs. Now try to imagine how the hardcore Democrat Marxists and their inner city brethren will utter lash out in such a scenario. It will be very destructive and much blood will be shed.
I need more toilet paper.
I have two concerns that are not on most people’s radar:
1. Instantaneous, worldwide cyberwar. Viruses, trojans, backdoors in those Chinese made chips, etc. could cripple our infrastructure in an attack that would dwarf Pearl Harbor. What if they take down the electrical grid and fry the transformers? It could be more effective than EMP without crossing the nuclear threshold.
2. Loose bioweapons from the labs in Libya, Egypt, or Yemen. Somewhere there is a jihadi scientist who has modified the genes in smallpox to make it invulnerable to vaccines and pneumonic (spread through the air like the flu). The jihadi has poor lab technique and worse personal hygiene. An accidental release could spread such a plague through air travel in days.
Stay prepared for anything!
I stockpile catalogs from suppliers.
Will compost well with humanure.
Agreed. Sometimes I am startled by the number of people who fail to realize how quickly these various scenarious can spiral completely and dangerously out of control.
There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.
No the stuff in his basement is just stock for the store that they don’t have room for in the back room of the store.
Remember that this is the first time in American history when people don’t have months worth of food stored. My grandmothers and my mother had large gardens and canned for the winter and spring. I do the same. People are making a run on these items because of that.
inner city? Here in florida the state thinks over 80% of the population lacks even 3 days of food in their home.
“Here in florida the state thinks over 80% of the population lacks even 3 days of food in their home.”
I would speculate its true here in GA also. I only have 2 friends who are prepping at all and only one couple that are doing it like we are. Everyone else I know probably has about 1 week of food in the pantry.
Interesting train of thought . I think that this could also be applied to the “occupy” movement , the Democrat party is trying to get that portion of people to that critical point that they are willing to riot in the streets not for Obama to declare martial law but to cause people to attack the other ie those who do not agree with the Democrat party & its agenda of socialism,sodomy & slavery. That way Obama won’t have to declare himself dictator he will be proclaimed leader by the press who are playing cheerleader for the mobs.
People in the former Yugoslavia thought the same.
I really despise the little black gun, but if that's what trips your trigger, check out a 6.8 Grendel upper.
Friendly country? That depends on where you are geographically located. Canada and Central or South America are good choices. OTOH, you can stick around and battle zombies with the rest of us;)