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Survival Shop Reports Jump In Sales To People Preparing For “Possible Collapse”
CBS St. Louis KMOX ^ | November 23, 2011 4:00 AM | Kevin Killeen

Posted on 11/23/2011 1:17:17 PM PST by caper gal 1

WEBSTER GROVES, MO (KMOX) - A chain of three stores that sells survival food and gear reports a jump in sales to people who are getting prepared for the “possible collapse” of society.

“We had to order fifty cases of the meals ready to eat to keep up with the demand in the past three months,” said manager Steve Dorsey at Uncle Sam’s Safari Outfitters Inc. in Webster Groves. “That’s not normal. Usually we sell 20 to 30 cases in a whole year.”

Dorsey says business has been brisk since the spring uprisings in the middle east, as customers share concerns about political uprisings, the world economy and the future of the United States

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This is unlike anything I've ever heard of in our history. I've never read anything about a spontaneous movement like this during the Depression.
1 posted on 11/23/2011 1:17:19 PM PST by caper gal 1
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To: caper gal 1

Don’t worry. It can’t happen here. Honest. Really . . . right?


2 posted on 11/23/2011 1:19:25 PM PST by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: caper gal 1
Dorsey himself admits that he does not have a personal supply of meals ready to eat stashed in his basement. “We live just two minutes from the store,” he said, “If something happens, I can drive right over here.”

Yeah, like the guy who lives one minute away wouldn't loot it first.
3 posted on 11/23/2011 1:27:55 PM PST by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: caper gal 1
There were a lot of such people in the fifties and the sixties when nuclear war was a plausible possibility. Backyard bomb shelters and public "civil defense" shelters were a reality. It died away during the halcyon days of Reagan and Bush41, but now the evil is not an alien empire but a domestic band of traitors under the flag of the DNC. If anything the threat is more serious now than ever before.

Still, complete breakdown, such as the doomsayers envision, is just not in the cards, unless there is a nuclear attack with EMP and/or blast damage in major cities. I rate the probability of this as very low.

4 posted on 11/23/2011 1:28:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: caper gal 1

In the Depression most people grew some food.


5 posted on 11/23/2011 1:30:40 PM PST by almost done by half
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To: hinckley buzzard

A collapse of society could occur in a financial/economic collapse. If supermarkets are looted then there won’t be much food left for everyone else. EMP/Nuclear attacks are not the only threat.


6 posted on 11/23/2011 1:35:14 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: Kartographer

Ping.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 1:38:40 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Prepper’s PING!


8 posted on 11/23/2011 1:42:13 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Black clouds cover the horizon, the lightening is flashing and there is the distant sound of thunder! The storm flags are going up, who you heed them?

I am very aware that if it’s the great end that there is nothing I can do to stop or change it, but history is full of instances and times when man or nature have caused such a calamity that people have cried out and begged God to end it all.

The bible has many verse such as this:

A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

This verse and others are there for a reason and I urge all to take heed of them, because we are clearly on the edge. Everyday there is a new story about the ‘Yutes’ who grow more restless everyday and when you add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge it won’t take much to set things off.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Today we have ‘yutes’ who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same ‘doll eyes’ a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.

That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

For a somber, yet realistic look at what SHFT is like read some of Selco’s post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts

If you like to read more about what SHTF in Bosnia was like take a look at this post on Bosnia War Survivor Selco’s Blog at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”


9 posted on 11/23/2011 1:43:19 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam

ping


10 posted on 11/23/2011 1:45:54 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Kartographer

This all really comes down to the fact that there are no trends to the positive and lot of trends continuing more negative.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 1:45:54 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: neefer

I tell everyone that will listen that you do not want to be anywhere near a retail or grocery store when the wheels come off. We have millions who are absolutely dependent on Uncle Sugah for their daily sustenance. When the checks stop coming, it’s Katie bar the door and you will truly see the ugly side of humanity.

Better to let them eat themselves but have a plan to keep them from you and yours.


12 posted on 11/23/2011 1:48:48 PM PST by Molon Labbie (Occupiers- The world is watching....and alternatively laughing and vomiting)
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To: hinckley buzzard
but a domestic band of traitors under the flag of the DNC.

You forgot their allies flying the Republican flag.


13 posted on 11/23/2011 1:49:21 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: caper gal 1
On my drive home today I seriously pondered the pros and cons of getting a civilian version of the M-4.

If I were wealthy, I would be looking to see what friendly nation I would set up an alternate residence in.

14 posted on 11/23/2011 1:49:44 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: Lysandru
If I were wealthy, I would be looking to see what friendly nation I would set up an alternate residence in.

There are ways to 'go international' that anybody can afford. I did it 10 years ago and it proved to be one of the best moves I ever made. All it takes is a leap of faith.

If I had to pick a country today as a remote safe haven it would be Panama, BTW.

15 posted on 11/23/2011 2:05:30 PM PST by The Duke
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To: hinckley buzzard

I beg to differ it doesn’t take much nor long for SHTF.

For a somber, yet realistic look at what real SHFT is like read some of Selco’s post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts


16 posted on 11/23/2011 2:07:14 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: hinckley buzzard
Really?

China and other nations announce they will no longer use the dollar as default currency....or perhaps the US defaults on its debt.
The value of the dollar falls badly...it is becoming an hourly watch to see what the dollar is worth.
Meanwhile, truck drivers that need to buy diesel fuel to run cannot afford it because the price is over $100 per gallon and rising. The same fuel that trains use to transport coal to power plants is near unaffordable. Large portions of the country go dark for extended periods. People flood to their food and grocery stores to stock up. It won't take long for the shelves to be empty. After a few weeks of this, it is only getting worse as gangs of inner city animals start moving outward to the suburbs looking for food and fun as they rape and pillage anyone who can't defend themselves. The spiral downward will continue unabated as the rule of law at the local level breaks down because the local constabulary has no officers...they're home defending their turf against the horde. (I know a great many LEOs...this will happen.)

No EMP necessary at all.

17 posted on 11/23/2011 2:08:45 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: almost done by half

So true. In the Depression 80% lived on farms and about 20% in the cities. Now its just the opposite. If we have a bank shutdown and people cannot used their atm cards it will be mass chaos. The grocery stores will be emptied in a day. There will be rioting outside the banks. Wait til those GA Peach cards won’t swipe at the sto no mo. The inner city will be a nightmare. Everybody should have some beans and bullets put away.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 2:10:25 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

OK.

I listened to a brodcast the other night that featured a researcher named Matt Stein. He wrote a couple books, one of which is “When Technology Fails...”

He was very well informed and knew what he was talking about.

His main fear is not atomic attack or EMP.

It’s SOLAR!!

The reason is the way things are set up. US uses or has online some 2,000 of these huge like 350KV transformers.

In 1929 there was a solar storm that, if it happened today, would blow a good many of these to kingdom come.

We make ZERO of them in the United States.

Current wait time for new ones IS ABOUT TWO YEARS!

OK.... so that happened in 1929... big deal...
except there were two solar storms in 1890 that were even bigger.

And it looks like the solar max we are heading into now is gonna be a doozie!!!


19 posted on 11/23/2011 2:14:08 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Will society have a complete and total breakdown/collapse? I honestly don’t know, and I don’t know what the official criteria for a “breakdown” would be. But never underestimate two things: (1) the amazingly thin veneer that allows us to maintain the appearance of “normalcy.” How civilized will we appear when we have gone two days without a meal..a week without a meal? (2) The power of mass psychology or group-think. If as few as 20% of Americans think that we have reached that nebulous state of “breakdown,” then it won’t take long until 40% believe it, then 50%, then 75%, etc. The danger is not whether we truly “break” (again, whatever that means), it’s the social psychological effect of ever increasing numbers who believe it will happen or is already happening. A self-fulfilling prophecy on steroids.


20 posted on 11/23/2011 2:14:18 PM PST by JGT
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To: caper gal 1

Let me put in a plug for some friends of mine at SurviveUSA in northeastern Arkansas, near Evening Shade. They are doing land-office business. www.surviveusa.com


21 posted on 11/23/2011 2:17:07 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

A stash of cash as well.


22 posted on 11/23/2011 2:20:19 PM PST by almost done by half
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Still, complete breakdown, such as the doomsayers envision, is just not in the cards, unless there is a nuclear attack with EMP and/or blast damage in major cities. I rate the probability of this as very low.”

Widespread rioting and looting is not so far-fetched.


23 posted on 11/23/2011 2:22:53 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Lysandru

The only con of M4 clones is the anemic 5.56 cartridge, which is so underpowered it is illegal for deer hunting in many states.
Every responsible citizen needs a serious rifle. Do your research carefully. There is much information and disinformation on the net. Talk to people who actually own the weapon you are considering.


24 posted on 11/23/2011 2:26:20 PM PST by allblues
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To: ScottfromNJ

....anybody ever see that Farside cartoon where the mob is heading one way with torches and pitch forks and one of them has a bubble thought going upward of a kiosk market table with a sign poted on it “Torches x dollars, pitch forks y dollars”.

Empty shelves will inspire future millionaires. This is America.

...plants will open, those logistics geniuses will get the materials.

“The virtue of hope is in earthquake and eclipse” - G.K. Chesterton.


25 posted on 11/23/2011 2:34:43 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Good post, Sam.

I envision things kinda along the same lines. Anarchists, OWS types, (fill in your thug here) take a few pot shots at fuel truck drivers. Their union, somewhat sympathetic to the nuts anyway, goes on strike. The miners, railroaders and tug boat operators soon do the same. Maybe a “tragic” refinery fire for good measure. Gas stations and grocery stores run out, the lights go out and the cops and National Guard are home guarding their turf. Commerce grinds to a halt.

Hungry desperate people lash out for sustenance. Dollars are useless, except for lighting cigars, if one had a cigar. Gunfire is heard, mostly at night. The thin veneer of civilization is stripped away in a fortnight. How does it end? Who knows?

Sorry for the melodramatic post, but that’s why I prep. If nothing happens, the local church food bank makes out and my son has a nice firearms collection.


26 posted on 11/23/2011 2:35:49 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: caper gal 1

Today’s market reaction to Germany was truly disturbing. GERMANY...not puny Greece or pathetic Italy. We may really have a BLACK Friday in 2 days, with the Dow down HARD. With Van Jones promising a “stage 2” of OWS next year, a “societal collapse” is not just possible, but probable.


27 posted on 11/23/2011 2:45:59 PM PST by montag813
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To: caper gal 1

It is reminiscent of the bomb shelter and survival crazes in the ‘50s and then again in the ‘70s. Isn’t it interesting that what drove those “survival” movements and this one was/is Marxism (Soviet Union).

In the face of all those, the Marxists and their useful Government out-of-control spending.

I find it equally ludicrous that the very person who demonized tax cuts now extends them and claims he’as a “tax cutter”. Yet, at least 40% of the population think he’s the smartest man on earth and it’s all Bushs’ fault.


28 posted on 11/23/2011 2:48:47 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: caper gal 1

Another day in Obamaland.

So how’s the “hope and change” working out for everyone?


29 posted on 11/23/2011 2:56:00 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: almost done by half

Yep.


30 posted on 11/23/2011 2:56:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: caper gal 1

Better off just making a pantry and filling it with long-term goods you normally eat, and rotating through it. Besides most things if kept cool and dry - if they are in sealed packaging - can be just fine years after their sell-by or best-by dates.


31 posted on 11/23/2011 3:00:39 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: caper gal 1

How to explain it?

OBAMA


32 posted on 11/23/2011 3:20:45 PM PST by Obadiah (If Reagan were alive today he'd be spinning in his grave.)
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To: Molon Labbie

I was so surprised that the owner wasn’t prepared. Sometimes I think I’m crazy to have so much food in the basement but when I look at the stacks of toilet paper that stretch to the ceiling, I get warm fuzzy feelings.


33 posted on 11/23/2011 3:22:46 PM PST by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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To: allblues

The 5.56 cartridge is not anemic in its civilian version (.223), loaded with softpoint or hollowpoint ammunition. Civilians are not bound by any treaties to use non expanding ammunition, and the .223 becomes a whole ‘nother animal with such.Perhaps not the ideal cartridge, but quite effective nevertheless.


34 posted on 11/23/2011 3:24:11 PM PST by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: JGT

Now consider what you just wrote and contrast that to the bellicose class warfare Obama has been demagoging, you know, the same kind of thing a certain German leader did in the 1930’s. Now try to imagine how the hardcore Democrat Marxists and their inner city brethren will utter lash out in such a scenario. It will be very destructive and much blood will be shed.


35 posted on 11/23/2011 3:32:59 PM PST by Obadiah (If Reagan were alive today he'd be spinning in his grave.)
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To: caper gal 1

I need more toilet paper.


36 posted on 11/23/2011 3:43:29 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Kartographer
Bmfl, and thank you!
37 posted on 11/23/2011 3:45:43 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I have two concerns that are not on most people’s radar:

1. Instantaneous, worldwide cyberwar. Viruses, trojans, backdoors in those Chinese made chips, etc. could cripple our infrastructure in an attack that would dwarf Pearl Harbor. What if they take down the electrical grid and fry the transformers? It could be more effective than EMP without crossing the nuclear threshold.

2. Loose bioweapons from the labs in Libya, Egypt, or Yemen. Somewhere there is a jihadi scientist who has modified the genes in smallpox to make it invulnerable to vaccines and pneumonic (spread through the air like the flu). The jihadi has poor lab technique and worse personal hygiene. An accidental release could spread such a plague through air travel in days.

Stay prepared for anything!


38 posted on 11/23/2011 3:53:29 PM PST by darth
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To: TASMANIANRED

I stockpile catalogs from suppliers.

Will compost well with humanure.


39 posted on 11/23/2011 3:59:46 PM PST by darth
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To: Obadiah

Agreed. Sometimes I am startled by the number of people who fail to realize how quickly these various scenarious can spiral completely and dangerously out of control.


40 posted on 11/23/2011 4:00:16 PM PST by JGT
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
"Empty shelves will inspire future millionaires."

And in the months it takes these millionaires to start-up how many starve?
41 posted on 11/23/2011 4:03:14 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: JGT

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”


42 posted on 11/23/2011 4:07:58 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: neefer

No the stuff in his basement is just stock for the store that they don’t have room for in the back room of the store.


43 posted on 11/23/2011 4:13:27 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: neefer
but when I look at the stacks of toilet paper that stretch to the ceiling, I get warm fuzzy feelings.

I get that same feeling looking at my great big box of seeds, no matter how much my family picks on me for it :)
44 posted on 11/23/2011 4:14:34 PM PST by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: caper gal 1

Remember that this is the first time in American history when people don’t have months worth of food stored. My grandmothers and my mother had large gardens and canned for the winter and spring. I do the same. People are making a run on these items because of that.


45 posted on 11/23/2011 4:28:10 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

inner city? Here in florida the state thinks over 80% of the population lacks even 3 days of food in their home.


46 posted on 11/23/2011 4:28:15 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“Here in florida the state thinks over 80% of the population lacks even 3 days of food in their home.”

I would speculate its true here in GA also. I only have 2 friends who are prepping at all and only one couple that are doing it like we are. Everyone else I know probably has about 1 week of food in the pantry.


47 posted on 11/23/2011 4:31:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JGT

Interesting train of thought . I think that this could also be applied to the “occupy” movement , the Democrat party is trying to get that portion of people to that critical point that they are willing to riot in the streets not for Obama to declare martial law but to cause people to attack the other ie those who do not agree with the Democrat party & its agenda of socialism,sodomy & slavery. That way Obama won’t have to declare himself dictator he will be proclaimed leader by the press who are playing cheerleader for the mobs.


48 posted on 11/23/2011 4:32:32 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Still, complete breakdown, such as the doomsayers envision, is just not in the cards, unless there is a nuclear attack with EMP and/or blast damage in major cities. I rate the probability of this as very low.

People in the former Yugoslavia thought the same.

49 posted on 11/23/2011 4:37:57 PM PST by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Lysandru
On my drive home today I seriously pondered the pros and cons of getting a civilian version of the M-4.

I really despise the little black gun, but if that's what trips your trigger, check out a 6.8 Grendel upper.

Friendly country? That depends on where you are geographically located. Canada and Central or South America are good choices. OTOH, you can stick around and battle zombies with the rest of us;)

50 posted on 11/23/2011 4:42:04 PM PST by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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