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Forget Gingrich and Romney, Republican voters win this latest debate
IBD Editorials ^ | November 23, 2011 | Andrew Malcom Political News & Commentary

Posted on 11/23/2011 5:15:55 PM PST by Kaslin

It was worth the wait.

The 11th (of 13) pre-Iowa Republican presidential debates was by far the best to date. And it came exactly six weeks from Iowa caucus night, Jan. 3.

CNN teamed with the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute to produce the most informative, clear and compelling articulation yet among the eight GOP candidates. It worked just fine free of bells and chimes and smug moderators trying to suck fame from the gathering.

Much credit goes to Wolf Blitzer, the wandering moderator who smoothly and professionally ran the show, asked some questions, stayed out of the way and called on real honest-to-think-tank audience experts to pose pointed broad questions that forced real responses while allowing room for revealing discursions.

The winners: Republicans who wanted to hear informed exposition on national security and foreign affairs. (If you missed it, the full debate transcript is right over here.)

The candidate winners were: Newt Gingrich, who continues to display his knowledge of history and on-stage debating skills, and Mitt Romney, who still looks presidential, poised, safe and error-free.

Amazing what top-notch poll numbers will do for a politician's confidence. The affable, even humble Newt showed up in Constitution Hall, the patient professor prepared to explain his positions and how he'd thought them out.

He's a most refreshing change from the campaigner-in-chief who prefers issuing ideas and intentions as definitive assertions, even when we all now know he'll change them in a couple of months.

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1 posted on 11/23/2011 5:15:56 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

NumbersUSA has some very interesting things to say about Newt Gingrich that I did not know, and am seriously disappointed to discover. See the following:

Gingrich Shows ‘Compassion’ for Illegal Aliens He Helped Stay Rooted in U.S., By Roy Beck - Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 10:56 AM EST

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/november-23-2011/gingrich-shows-compassion-illegal-aliens-he-helped-stay-rooted-us.ht


2 posted on 11/23/2011 5:22:00 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Kaslin

Forget both of them.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 5:24:56 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin
I skipped over this thread so fast it looked like Forrest Gingrich at first, gotta slow down.
4 posted on 11/23/2011 5:39:09 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Forget Paul


5 posted on 11/23/2011 5:40:31 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

The best part of the debate was when Herman Cain called Wolf “Blitz”.


6 posted on 11/23/2011 6:10:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SatinDoll

I read your link. This is not about “Amnesty”. You should read the Red Card proposal on the Krieble Report (Krieble.org)and http://redcardsolution.com/

Gingrich emphasized the point that he was for documenting illegal workers for a temporary work period...FOR THE PUPOSE OF CONTROL OVER THE PROBLEM ,NOT FOR CITIZENSHIP!!!

Many surveys show American majorities believe the border control problem is not solvable without a better system for managing the labor problem. The Red Card proposes that.

BTW Romney’s record shows that he was truly for AMNESTY a few years ago.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 6:31:58 PM PST by firefox ((Vote Democrat...Its Easier Than Thinking!))
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The best part of the debate was when Herman Cain called Wolf “Blitz”.

Herman will take it all. CAIN 2012

8 posted on 11/23/2011 6:33:57 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Could not agree more. It’s over. Cain won again.

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/11/12/its-over-cain-won-again/


9 posted on 11/23/2011 7:30:26 PM PST by GilGil
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
Forget both of them.

I agree!!! s/ barack Obama

10 posted on 11/23/2011 8:04:24 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: firefox

It is about amnesty. Gingrich is smart; he’s trying to snooker Republicans. Using the word “humane” was the give away.

Most illegal aliens in this country came here first on visas, overstayed the visa, and then just tried to blend in.

President Eisenhower managed to deport over a million illegal aliens back in the 1950s. Today, we can just do it, whether it is 12 million or 20 million, because it is the law and the right thing to do, and to Hell with those nations that complain at having their folks repatriated.

And don’t use that crap about Romney on me - he drips with insincerity and is a weathercock when it comes to principles. He is not now, nor has he ever been, my choice.


11 posted on 11/23/2011 8:06:40 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

My tagline says it all.


12 posted on 11/23/2011 8:09:12 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: Kaslin
Actually the thing I found most interesting was...when Newt went centrist on this issue...the others on the stage (with the exception of Perry) went waaaay to the right.

I don't care how everyone tried to sound like “we are going to deport every single one of them” last night, that hasn't been their stance in the past.

I found the political maneuvering about this to be interesting and pretty distressful.

13 posted on 11/23/2011 8:34:34 PM PST by berdie
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To: firefox

I saw a clip on some news show yesterday that had Romney speaking of amnesty from 2007.


14 posted on 11/23/2011 9:54:59 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE; Kaslin
Forget both of them.

Let's see ......

The American Enterprise Beltway Insider Institute and the Heritage Beltway Insider Foundation went to the Loathesome Insider Media Borg and arranged a little debate with questions prepared by authentic Grade One Beltway Insiders for the conservative ingenues and ...... the two Insider candidates won! How amazing!

It must be a coincidence!

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15 posted on 11/23/2011 9:59:49 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Oh to be sure it must be.


16 posted on 11/23/2011 10:07:29 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

Agreed


17 posted on 11/23/2011 10:08:36 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: firefox

Newt: “Some illegals deserve citizenship”

Rape the country long enough, you get to be family


18 posted on 11/23/2011 10:49:01 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SatinDoll
Newt explicitly rules out citizenship as an option. Romney has called for citizenship. NumbersUSA, btw, is a white supremicist, proabortion (for nonwhites) crackpot organization. You need to hang out with a better class of people.
19 posted on 11/24/2011 7:30:17 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

You’re wrong about NumbersUSA. They don’t care where your or my political beliefs align; they want government to tightly control who and what number of people get into this nation.

As for who I “hang out” with, gathering intelligence or information means looking through diverse material, sometimes at on-line sites I would rather not visit. In a past life I wrote intelligence reports for the U.S.Navy, and synthesized those reports into histories sent to NSA. Looking for those ‘threads’ of intelligence is important and this is what I’ve done for nearly four years now when researching the man who claims to be Barak Obama.

Roy Beck’s efforts to get the government to exert greater control on immigration is an effort I support. As for his personal poltical beliefs, as long as he isn’t a criminal advocating overthrow of the U.S.A., I really don’t care.


20 posted on 11/24/2011 1:33:41 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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