Posted on 11/23/2011 10:07:10 PM PST by Lazlo in PA
If somebody can't live off the land, than he needs to learn, than he can be self-sufficient. Being able to procure food is better then starving. It's easy to find a buddy than go hunting, than he can learn to stalk, shoot, and process an animal. It's better then having to going hungry, than he's screwed.
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In small towns, if the cities dumped because of nuke threat, there simply wasn't any place for that many people to go, small town would have to absorb them best they could. You were better staying put.
In the 80’s a lot of the left were so scared Reagan was going to start a nuke war, bomb shelters became a must have to show how left you were to the rest of your leftist friends.
There is simply no place for tens of millions of people to go if there is a nuke or bio threat to the cities. Hunkering down for a few weeks or even months is your only option.
If you think about it, an uptick in the sales of survival supplies is a superb indicator that there is *not* going to be a collapse of society.
Because when enough people are prepared, their investment and spending patterns change, which on the large scale makes the economy as a whole more resilient, in a defensive mode. With a few important exceptions.
1) A man-made “Jacksonian” economic crisis. Just before leaving office, Andrew Jackson, a violent and hateful man, decided to make one last parting shot at those he despised. He first refused to renew the charter of the Second Bank of the United States, which acted somewhat like the Federal Reserve does today. And second, by executive order “the specie circular”, he decreed that all the vast amount of currencies issued by banks in the US had to be backed with gold and silver.
This caused the worst depression in US history until the Great Depression. Jackson got away with it, because it was all blamed on the incoming president, who had been Jackson’s vice president, also a Democrat, but a “big city” Democrat that Jackson didn’t like.
2) Good economic intentions but without humanity. The Hoover administration finally figured out what had to be done to restore the US economy after the stock market crash of 1929. And economically, they were right. However, they made the terrible error of relying on the recovery to help all the people who were destitute and literally starving.
People in that situation will, and did, vote for the devil himself, “Ol’ Frank” Roosevelt, on the promise of immediate relief for their suffering.
And this must never be forgotten by Republicans. Fix the economy, yes, but you absolutely must insure that people have a roof over their head and food in their belly, the minute you get into office.
Right now the US has hundreds of thousands of empty homes, and even at the height of the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl, the US had an overabundance of food. So for heaven’s sake, don’t hold it back from people desperately need it.
Or again, Republicans will be out of power for another 25 years of Democrat destruction.
The food in your freezer will be done in 2-3 days. Eat it first as ther will be no electricity to keep yopur freezer working.
P.S. I also have some things that bug me. To-too, There-their, your-you're to name just a few of them.
“he decreed that all the vast amount of currencies issued by banks in the US had to be backed with gold and silver.”
Andrew Jackson is my Hero.
It’s not that he did that, its under what circumstances and how he did it.
As background, when the plan was made to build the Erie canal, bonds were issued. Since most people could not directly purchase bonds, they did so through their banks, that used US dollars to buy bonds, then printed their own money based to some extent on the specie they kept in reserve.
And the Erie canal was a huge success. Done before schedule and at much less cost, soon commerce was booming, and everyone who bought bonds made a tidy profit. Everybody won.
But then five other states wanted to build their own canal system, all of which depended on connecting the Ohio River to the Great Lakes. Unfortunately the surveying was wrong, and such canal systems would not work. Not knowing this, they issued a huge number of *state-backed* bonds.
Vast numbers of people cashed in their specie and their US dollars to buy such bonds. But with as much specie as they brought to their local banks, as well as US dollars, it was only a fraction of the amount of currency they had to issue for their local economy to function.
First the bonds collapsed when the canal projects failed. And right then, Jackson issued his specie circular. Had he not done so, right then, the crisis could have been deflated. But overnight, this wiped out thousands of banks, and the savings of all the people invested with them.
And the whole mess was dumped on the states, who had no choice but to cancel the bonds, which even to this day they never paid off.
So vast numbers of people not only lost any specie they had, but also US dollars, and any investments they had in bonds.
As far as Jackson goes, he *did not* do this out of any belief that currency should be backed by specie, but purely out of revenge and hatred at the “big city bankers” he despised with a passion.
So not really substantially different from Van Jones, Clover and Piven and their ilk today. Willing to harm millions of innocent people just so they can lash out at those they hate.
Imagine having to travel the interstate in a hostile situation. MREs allow you to eat without stopping. This could be very important under certain worst-case circumstances.
Canned foods never really go bad unless there is a leak. The government makes them put an expiration date on everything, but they stay edible pretty much forever, though they may lose some color and flavor over time. I saw a story on tv where they found a 6 LB can of beef from the early 1800s. They opened it up and fed it to rats, who were just fine.
In any case, the #1 rule is store what you eat and eat what you store. You don’t need to spend a bunch of money on stuff you wouldn’t normally eat. Just buy more of what you do eat, and replace it when you use it.
As long as hostilities didn’t extend to IEDs on the road....
Mice solve the problem of what will you feed the cats.
Where do you get those Hormels? Thanks.
Oh, the dangers could be much more mundane than IEDs (besides, you're forgetting that we don't manufacture *anything* here in the US anymore!).
It could be as simple as bridges being blocked. And, the challenge may be to get past those bridges before they get blocked. And part of accomplishing that is not having to stop to eat.
This is where the MREs might come in handy.
Hopefully it never comes to that, but MREs (and a plan) are cheap insurance.
Snicker snicker snicker
I'll take my chances out in the country any day. Oh and by the way, folks out in the small towns tend to band together.
Urbanites fracture almost immediately and begin turning on one another.
Good luck with that.
The only reason we have the large deer populations now is that hunting is regulated.
So i should not even get started like I am?
I didn’t say you shouldn’t get started, you’ll just have a harder time getting ready. My advice is to study and learn as much as you can as fast as you can and get the stuff you need quickly.
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