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1 posted on 11/25/2011 8:23:09 AM PST by TitansAFC
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The goal of his plan, Gingrich said, is to gain control of the border in 12 months while ensuring that English is the official language of the U.S. government. He wants even faster rules for the deportation of criminals and a guest worker program "outsourced to American Express, Visa or MasterCard to minimize fraud..."

I like this idea. The second part, well, it's a bit odd, and I don't know that MC/Visa/Amex would actually do it, but, I get his point on the whole thing. However it might just be a thought experiment intended to do something about the problem.

36 posted on 11/25/2011 8:46:03 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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Newt is a big fat copy cat...”Gingrich said, is to gain control of the border in 12 months”......COPYING RICK PERRY.


37 posted on 11/25/2011 8:46:34 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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“He wants ... a guest worker program”

Well, it looks like the corporatist elite have found their candidate.


38 posted on 11/25/2011 8:47:40 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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“Gingrich Tells Newsmax: No Amnesty, No Citizenship”

Is he going to do like these sleazy bastards always do and just call it something else?


39 posted on 11/25/2011 8:47:49 AM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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On Friday, Gingrich is expected to elaborate on his immigration policy at a campaign event in Naples, Fla.

It's a townhall meeting. Good idea to get out in front of this. But one has to wonder why Florida vs. Iowa at this point in time. Seems the most critical fire to put out would be in Iowa, especially while the social conservatives there are at this very moment trying to determine their Not Romney candidate to rally behind.
45 posted on 11/25/2011 8:51:21 AM PST by TBBT
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He’s never claimed amnesty.

If you enforce laws and close door many will self deport...in WETBACK in the 50s 80% self deported...maybe 90%

But you have to figure out who they are and who gets to apply for guest visa or not and where the cut off is.

Deporting 20-30 million folks through forced round ups ala Elia Gonzales ain’t gonna happen and the general public will never support that after being bombarded 24-7 on News channels of round ups...no way...no matter how much we here might not mind

This is issue unless ignore another 30 years will result in something between mass deportation and partial deportation hopefully and enforcement of the laws and closing the border.

A position held more or less by Newt, Cain, Mitt, Huntsman, Perry and even Pat Paulson...only Bachmann calls for total deportation


56 posted on 11/25/2011 8:54:35 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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Hmm. The old “let me reinvent myself to woo conservatives and do absolutely none of the above when elected but instead keep on liberal-truckin’” trick.


58 posted on 11/25/2011 8:56:31 AM PST by Olog-hai
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Newt you are a damn liar, Amnesty is amnesty
62 posted on 11/25/2011 8:58:36 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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So the longer you’ve been a criminal by staying here for 20 or more years means that they should be rewarded versus the illegal who has only been here for 1-5 years?

Sounds exactly how the District of Criminals does things these days!


67 posted on 11/25/2011 9:01:48 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To be the smartest man in the room [supposedly], Newt stepped in it and still cannot extricate himself.

A "path to non-deportation" is a form of amnesty -- no matter what word games you play.

McCain tried to dance around the same issue in 2008, and he made himself look foolish by saying that letting certain illegals stay is not amnesty.

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Stop digging, Newt. Amnesty is amnesty, no matter what you call it, and "a path to non-deportation" is a form of amnesty.
68 posted on 11/25/2011 9:01:51 AM PST by TomGuy
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It’s amazing that we ignore the fact that we have no idea about past history of the illegals that have been here 2 days or 25 years. How many rapists, murderers, gang members, pedophiles, etc. are our neighbors and we have no idea? Our very unprincipled politicians have created this mess and as cruel as it is to send some very nice people back to their country after they have been here for years, it’s still the best solution and will save American lives.


78 posted on 11/25/2011 9:06:52 AM PST by Mr. Fabtastic (Cain is rapidly gaining on Fred Gwynne as my favorite Herman.)
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Ugh. “A path to non-deportation” ??

Just the kind of political weasel-wording that sends up alarm bells. The kind of alarm bells in the back of my brain that tell me “do... not... trust.”


79 posted on 11/25/2011 9:08:21 AM PST by greene66
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Read my lips: No Newt Amnesty.


80 posted on 11/25/2011 9:08:37 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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I agree that our approach should be humanely enforcing our laws and I like what he is proposing.

1. Gain control of the border in 12 months
2. Ensure that English is the official language of the U.S. government.
3. Faster rules for the deportation of criminals
4. A guest worker program outsourced to American Express, Visa or MasterCard to minimize fraud
5. No amnesty or citizenship.
6. Encourage illegals to self deport by going after those who employ them or rent to them.

Any plan dealing with illegal immigration must include these points and I applaud Gingrich for stepping up and getting them out in the debate.

Things are way out of control and the above is a good start for a return to sanity.

When I worked in real estate, before obama, I was shocked to hear mortgage brokers give our office sales pitches for various Federal loan options for illegals.

96 posted on 11/25/2011 9:23:00 AM PST by GBA
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It’d be worth hearing Newt out on this, but I think the simple solution is to require U.S. citizenship for all employment, and the wetbacks will self-deport.


102 posted on 11/25/2011 9:28:57 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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May 2011: Tancredo says “Ron Paul now supports amnesty” [Gingrich plan copies Paul’s)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2812264/posts


120 posted on 11/25/2011 9:43:39 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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"There is a path to non-deportation for certified, very long-term community members..."

In other words, we need to keep providing cheap under-the-table labor for shyster businesses that are contributing money.

123 posted on 11/25/2011 9:46:17 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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Guest worker program = amnesty.


125 posted on 11/25/2011 9:47:20 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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...."But "there is no path to citizenship in my Tuesday night comment on immigration," Gingrich told Newsmax. "There is a path to non-deportation for certified, very long-term community members but they would not have the right to vote."

This "very intelligent" person is too stupid to be a serious presidential candidate...

... if he unaware that EVERY FREAKIN' previous "not a path to citizenship or citizenship rights" proposal in the past has totally and utterly failed.

Only difference now is there's 20 million of them.

(Deport them all and readmit the 10% worth having.)

126 posted on 11/25/2011 9:47:46 AM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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"there is no path to citizenship in my Tuesday night comment on immigration," Gingrich told Newsmax. "There is a path to non-deportation"

That is even worse! They get benefits, can't get kicked out, and pay no income taxes.

Newt is digging his hole even deeper!

131 posted on 11/25/2011 9:54:00 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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