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Michael Reagan: My Father Would Support Gingrich's Position On Immigration
RealClearPolitics ^ | November 23, 2011

Posted on 11/26/2011 3:07:02 PM PST by presidio9

"ABO, 'Anybody But Obama' at this point in time," Michael Reagan said when asked who his father would be supporting in the Republican primary.

"He would support the nominee. Never got involved in the primaries, he believed the party should choose their person but he would have said this about last night's debate, which he would have thought was very good, as I thought it was very good. He would [have] supported probably Newt Gingrich's position on immigration. My father never would have broken up a family to try to make in fact a point on immigration, and so he would have applauded Newt Gingrich on that,

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To: presidio9

Maybe you were to busy complaining about your childhood to notice that this plan DID NOT WORK.

Reagan claimed it as a mistake.


41 posted on 11/26/2011 4:37:32 PM PST by marty60
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To: Jukeman
First of all, Jukeman, I take offense to your characterization of fellow freepers who want to simply deport as "bigots, racists, and idiots".. shame on you.

That said, I tend to support Newts kind of idea, always have really, I don't believe it is feasible, practically and morally, to simply round em all up and deport them. Ultimately, there is enough of the American Public that would view that with much distaste. Mass deportations are NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. It is a pipe dream. Therefore, there has to be some kind of compromise that does the best we can otherwise.

42 posted on 11/26/2011 4:51:25 PM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: presidio9

Appreciate the ping, but with the little platoon of newbie liars and Romneyites, not to mention the circular firing squad members, discussion of the issues regarding the invasion of illegals will not proceed on this thread. I tried rasing the specter hinckleybuzzard raised using hyperbole and I still have a lying poster trying to claim I’m anti-Hispanic! You know they’re not that stupid to misunderstand, so the ploy is pure deceit, typical of stealth Romney supporters and DNC deep cover agitprops. It is looking more and more like a planned effort to divide conservatives and thus erase the momentum to remove the commie little bassturd from the White Hut and suppress conservative turnout for November 2012. Hate mongering has become an avocation, accompanied by lying boldly.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 4:59:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: presidio9

I wish this guy would stop trying to be the official spokesperson for his dead father.

What’s he gonna do next? Endorse some candidate on behalf of the Gipper?


44 posted on 11/26/2011 5:02:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: presidio9

Yea the one huge mistake that i hold to Ronald..he taught them to come and eventually we will let them stay


45 posted on 11/26/2011 5:05:54 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: GeronL

Breaking up families. They come here and we pay for the hospital where their babies are born for free,we pay for their schooling at probably 15k a year average in the nation,they get other social aid and i’m supposed to be concerned with breaking up families? Let them pay back the few hundred thousand per head they owe and i’ll worry about their families.


46 posted on 11/26/2011 5:14:38 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: GeronL

Yes, and Ronald Reagan wasn’t one to repeat a mistake. He learned by them, God rest his soul.


47 posted on 11/26/2011 5:16:52 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I say let them continue to live under the radar.

Cut off any federal, state, local entitlements.

Make them pay for their Emergency Room visits.

Make if a felony to hire illegals and enforce it!

Issue an Executive Order that stops all Federal Funding to support education to illegals and terminate the law requiring the States of educate illegals K-12. Build the fence, secure the border, arrest those found fleeing through the deserts in CA, TX, NM, AZ, then send them back ASAP.

I don't give a rat's a** if the fence is electrifed, has a mote with alligators or is patroled by pit bulls. Illegals murder, rape, steal and terrorize our communities. Where is their respect for American's human rights? If we just enforced the laws we have now we don't need an amnesty bill or whatever Newtie is calling his “I'll Take The Heat” and then back peddles it as “Soft Immigration”.
How can illegal immigration be soft??? It's illegal, it's costing each of us taxpayers money. It's bringing crime, drugs, unskilled workers, poverty and imposing on our rights as Americans.

If you don't want to deport illegals and feel enforcing our laws are inhumane, then set up a sanctuary city in your State, fund it through State Taxation, personal, corporate or community donations. I have experienced what illegals, whether they have been here 25 years or 5 minutes are doing to our way of life.

I believe in legal immigration. Let those that want to be American Citizens follow our laws! You would not get away with what is happening to the USA with illegals no place else in the world that has a strong, vibrant economy. Take a look at France and the UK and tell me that illegal diversity works!

48 posted on 11/26/2011 6:04:46 PM PST by not2worry
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To: hinckley buzzard; Jukeman; Jim Robinson
There are a clot of people here, and several posting on this thread, who clearly want the GOP to commit political suicide by mass arrests, roundups and deportation of millions of illegals.

One of the members of that "clot of people" is the founder and owner of this site, Jim Robinson:

"For being the “smartest” man in the race, this buffoon has no clue whatsoever. How many American workers are currently unemployed? Why do we need alien workers? Why do we want to continue subsidizing “cheap” foreign labor? Why continue burdening the taxpayers, law enforcement, courts, hospitals, schools, the welfare system, etc, with the illegal alien community?

Secure the borders.

Cut off all social benefits for illegals.

Clamp down on employers who hire illegals.

Deport illegals when caught.

Send the convicted criminals among them to prison.

The rest will leave as the freebies and opportunities dry up.

Bust up their families? Hell no! We’re not inhumane. They can take their families with them back home to Mexico. "


I think that "clot" you refer to is much larger than you think it is, I also think you are perjoratively declaring that we all want to physically deport Illegals, when if we did something much more simple, such as the following, they would simply self-deport:

1. Enforce existing laws
2. Build the COMPLETE border fence, not just in urban areas like Newt wants which represent somewhere around 1/10th of 1 percent of the border.
3. Complete enforcement of E-Verify for all employment and for all Social Services.

Without a job, and without all the freebies, they self-deport.
49 posted on 11/26/2011 6:31:36 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: hinckley buzzard; Jukeman; Jim Robinson
There are a clot of people here, and several posting on this thread, who clearly want the GOP to commit political suicide by mass arrests, roundups and deportation of millions of illegals.

One of the members of that "clot of people" is the founder and owner of this site, Jim Robinson:

"For being the “smartest” man in the race, this buffoon has no clue whatsoever. How many American workers are currently unemployed? Why do we need alien workers? Why do we want to continue subsidizing “cheap” foreign labor? Why continue burdening the taxpayers, law enforcement, courts, hospitals, schools, the welfare system, etc, with the illegal alien community?

Secure the borders.

Cut off all social benefits for illegals.

Clamp down on employers who hire illegals.

Deport illegals when caught.

Send the convicted criminals among them to prison.

The rest will leave as the freebies and opportunities dry up.

Bust up their families? Hell no! We’re not inhumane. They can take their families with them back home to Mexico. "


I think that "clot" you refer to is much larger than you think it is, I also think you are perjoratively declaring that we all want to physically deport Illegals, when if we did something much more simple, such as the following, they would simply self-deport:

1. Enforce existing laws
2. Build the COMPLETE border fence, not just in urban areas like Newt wants which represent somewhere around 1/10th of 1 percent of the border.
3. Complete enforcement of E-Verify for all employment and for all Social Services.

Without a job, and without all the freebies, they self-deport.
50 posted on 11/26/2011 6:32:06 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Jukeman

“Any of you people who say it would be possible to deport all of the illegals are being dishonest with yourselves and everyone else.”

Their home countries did it.

“I can see deporting those who sign up for welfare benefits, felons, and other undesirables but trying to deport those who have assimilated into our society in all respects would not be supported by most citizens of this country.”

Rape your daughter long enough and he becomes family, huh?

” I know there are those of you who are bigots, racists, and idiots”

Straight from the book, “How to win friends and influence people” I am sure.

“I agree that we must close our borders and stop the flow now

At least you love the nation enough to meet us partway.

“but there is limit to what can be done with those here now.”

“We do not choose to go to the moon because it is easy, we choose to go to the moon because it is hard”....well not you but other Americans are made of sterner stuff.

“call me whatever you but I am right on this.

Okay. You are an illegal alien loving coward.


51 posted on 11/26/2011 6:44:28 PM PST by Grunthor (pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Apollo5600

I may be the most right wing zealot out here. I just happen to see the truth on this.


52 posted on 11/26/2011 6:58:13 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: Grunthor

Yep you are brilliant. Just not a JBS here.


53 posted on 11/26/2011 7:00:07 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: Jukeman

Well you did ask for it.


54 posted on 11/26/2011 7:01:32 PM PST by Grunthor (pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Just read unemployment is lower in Mexico than here. Maybe it is because they keep getting killed off. And we are arguing about something that should have not been a problem but it is and we have to deal with it in some manner. The main thing though is: Defeat Obama. Everything else is a back burner issue.


55 posted on 11/26/2011 7:05:19 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: hinckley buzzard

You have summed it up nicely and some of the clots posting here would be all for the “German method”. There are likely some “skin-heads” posting here and definitely some “Republic of Texas” members and JBers perhaps.


56 posted on 11/26/2011 7:12:35 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: Grunthor

Jumped into the volcano and came out like “Joe”. I feel righteous and will rest easy.


57 posted on 11/26/2011 7:15:48 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: TitansAFC

I am on board with your comment: “deport recent comers, no jobs and kids, expired visas, etc”.


58 posted on 11/26/2011 7:18:52 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: presidio9

You know what? I used to think just like the people who are giving me hell and not that long ago. I did some looking into situations around my community and found where some neighborhoods which had been trashed by my white people have been renewed by Latino families. It took some real soul searching on my part to see the whole picture but I also just saw the realistic truth that there can be only limited success in deporting the illegals by deporting the unproductive and welfare illegals as well as the felons, law breakers. We must secure our borders and punish employers who hire illegals.


59 posted on 11/26/2011 7:31:24 PM PST by Jukeman
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To: Paradox

“Shame on me”. Perhaps - but many of them are exactly what I said they are.


60 posted on 11/26/2011 7:34:00 PM PST by Jukeman
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