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Banned after accusations of abuse, some gymnastics coaches continue to teach
ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER ^ | Oct. 2, 2011 | SCOTT M. REID

Posted on 11/28/2011 2:01:27 PM PST by petitfour

PASADENA – Charmaine Carnes had only been at Flairs, a Pasadena gymnastics club, a few months in 1978 when she was chosen to ride in the front seat of coach Doug Boger's car. Carnes beamed as she shut the car door, convinced that the ride with Boger, then 30, to a competition later that day was the first leg of a journey that would make her an Olympian. Instead, Carnes said, Boger took her and many of her Flairs teammates to a much darker place.

A newspaper clipping featuring Doug Boger, right, with Flairs gymnast Denise Gallion. Gallion said Boger sexually abused her for three years, starting when she was 13.

"I was 8 or 9, and I remember he had this yellow Mustang and it was an honor if you got to ride with him," Carnes said. "And we would be in the car and it started off with him tickling me, and then I realized he was tickling me in my genitalia and I remember just staring at the gearshift in the car."

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dougboger; gymnastics; sexabuse
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To: bvw
You can’t put a sexually mature man in alone for any lengths of time with girls or young women with this kind of thing happening.

Search for "Naughty Teachers" on FR. Clearly, based on these articles, you can’t put a sexually mature man woman in alone for any lengths of time with girls boys or young women men with this kind of thing happening.

Do you not believe me? Just google Alison Peck, Amber Jennings, Autumn Leathers, Beth Ann Chester, Cristie Elliot, Debra Lafave, etc...

Do you still feel your self righteous misandrous superiority?

41 posted on 11/28/2011 6:13:28 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: bvw; 9YearLurker; Pikachu_Dad
Like a panther I could have been waiting for exactly such a immature and childish reaction...Picture that panther tearing your fat childish remark to bits with teeth and fangs, and leaving only bones to bleach in the sun.

You sound like a pervert, and a possibly a sexual predator. I hope you are not allowed to interact with children. Per my previous post; statistical data seems to indicate many grown women prey upon young boys.

Of course, by today's standards, being a "Cougar" is "Cool" and "Edgy." It's a wonder they let women near children at all!

42 posted on 11/28/2011 6:20:53 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: 9YearLurker; bvw

Thanks for your reply. I was composing one and it got entirely too long. You summed up my thoughts perfectly. Thanks again.


43 posted on 11/28/2011 6:33:34 PM PST by suthener
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To: petitfour; lilyramone; crusadersoldier; Ellzeena; Anvilhead; stonehouse01; Goreknowshowtocheat; ...
If only the Church would allow teachers and coaches to marry, all of this could have been avoided!

‘Passing the trash’


Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.

“They might deal with it internally, suspending the person or having the person move on. So their license is never investigated,” says Charol Shakeshaft, a leading expert in teacher sex abuse who heads the educational leadership department at Virginia Commonwealth University.

It’s a dynamic so common it has its own nicknames—“passing the trash” or the “mobile molester.”

Laws in several states require that even an allegation of sexual misconduct be reported to the state departments that oversee teacher licenses. But there’s no consistent enforcement, so such laws are easy to ignore.

School officials fear public embarrassment as much as the perpetrators do, Shakeshaft says. They want to avoid the fallout from going up against a popular teacher. They also don’t want to get sued by teachers or victims, and they don’t want to face a challenge from a strong union.


44 posted on 11/28/2011 6:36:28 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: Scotswife

Pride deafens does it not? The pretty and polite shared delusions of life are often for good merit and sanity. Thinking good thoughts of fellow humans is important to one’s sanity and social well-being.

Yet pride deafens to where those delusions lead to snares easily set by predators hungry for prey. We are humans only in spiritual levels, in body — the very body emphasized in sports, and additionally sexually emphasized in sports like figure skating, dance, and cheerleading (all so similar to and derivative of gymnastics) — in body we are animals.

The old lions of strength and prowess keep all the fertile young females under strict claim as to marital rights. That is the dynamics of a herd, of a harem. Human kings and chiefs have kept large harems that the even the youngest maiden is captured into — that is a sign in most cultures of prime manhood, of the alpha male.

We are not as a culture magic, we only have different pretensions. Shared illusions. Men are still men and sex is—as the Creator designed it—among the strongest of urges.

Here we have our rock star and his groupies, our Clinton and his interns, our Kennedies and their preppy upscale harems, our big men on campus and their fawning fan-girls.

There is no magic age limit to sexual attraction enscribed by nature in our genes and their expression into growing embryos, fetuses, infants and then persons.

The limits are ONLY by what society and culture over generations have developed, what Divine Revelation has made evident.

You seem to believe in some magic! A magic that says the men you knew were not men, but asexual automatons. Stop it. Please. Grow up. Go and learn.

Go read Chaucer, Shakespeare, Faulkner, whatever “classic” literature you may find — it will be there, if the work is truly classic. For classics describe the true innards of the workings of the soul in the body, and the souls and bodies together in a society in the world.

This is not a magic generation. Rather it is a very sexually confused one, where the boundary markers of modesty, innocence and decency have been overthrown.


45 posted on 11/28/2011 6:39:01 PM PST by bvw
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To: FourPeas

The gym where my girls were has lots of windows and cameras so that the coaches are not put into a he said/she said situation. And from what I saw with the elite gymnasts, there were always two or more coaches present. When they travelled, the girls were with the female coach. But this would be a smaller gym than the gym for the guy in this article.


46 posted on 11/28/2011 6:40:11 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Grizzled Bear

You are wrong and wrong again and you have set camp within the chorus of the dim-bulbs, and a un-enlightening chorus it is!


47 posted on 11/28/2011 6:41:31 PM PST by bvw
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To: Scotswife

I don’t think the abuse is widespread, but where it is, it needs to be stopped. It’s similar to the Sandusky thing. I don’t think there are football coaches all over the place who are molesting boys.


49 posted on 11/28/2011 6:46:59 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Grizzled Bear; Admin Moderator

I don’t know who added sarahpalin as a keyword either, but that needs to go.


50 posted on 11/28/2011 6:48:44 PM PST by petitfour
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To: bvw; Scotswife; 9YearLurker; Pikachu_Dad; Osage Orange
You are wrong and wrong again and you have set camp within the chorus of the dim-bulbs, and a un-enlightening chorus it is!

In your post #30, you said "Picture that panther tearing your fat childish remark to bits with teeth and fangs, and leaving only bones to bleach in the sun."

You seem to be using an awful large number of words just to say you swallow.

I've often found those who use your writing style are compensating for a third rate intellect. Just google "the greatest speeches of John Kerry" and you'll see what I mean.

Maybe if you weren't such a sad, miserable misandrous harridan, adult men would find you attractive and you wouldn't need to troll for little boys.

Oh, and with all of the "un-enlightened" gobbledygoop...you sound an awful lot like Oprah. Do you really want to act that way in public? I'm sure few share your over inflated opinon of yourself. Just remember, bvw is only one letter away from bvd.

52 posted on 11/28/2011 6:57:28 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: bvw
I should bang your damnably dumb dumb dumb skull into concrete, for your idiocy! Maybe THAT would clear your mind and free you from your imbecility.

Oh...I see. Being a paleo gives you license to threaten physical violence against those who are disgusted by your urge to cruise for underaged boys. Even though you try to cover your perverse appetites through hostility and misandrony, we can see you for what you are.

Hey...where did Dane go? Where is Willie Green? KDD was zotted just the other day and he(?) went by three letters...just like you!!! Isn't that special?

Do you really want to play? I just love the smell of burnt paleo troll! It smells like - - - MORE!

53 posted on 11/28/2011 7:07:27 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: Randy2u; bvw
The human sex drive WILL cause the older person to take advantage of the younger members.

Are you just talking about dirty old men or are you including skanky cougars in the equation?

Help me out here; I'm working on an intervention.

55 posted on 11/28/2011 7:21:04 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: bvw
I should bang your damnably dumb dumb dumb skull into concrete, for your idiocy! Maybe THAT would clear your mind and free you from your imbecility.

Oh my, the paleo troll has gone into the brush! Come out, come out, little troll!

What would happen if I FReep-Mailed your comments to "He Who Can 'Zot' You!"?

Wouldn't it be easier if you came back and argued your position? Even though you're a skanky old cougar, I still see you as a redeemable human with a chemical value of about $2.00.

56 posted on 11/28/2011 7:29:11 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: Perdogg

“I didn’t get the chance to go through what a normal 13-year-old goes through,” she said. “That age is so important to the development of a person’s self-esteem. My life did stop in a sense; I didn’t continue to grow. I was influenced into being someone but not who I was meant to be.


When perverts sexually abuse and manipulate boys and girls, they strip them of their normal sexual development, interaction with one another and their self respect. It is aggressively disrespectful for adults to insert themselves into the sexual development of children.

But the pervs are now celebrating the power to do this in all public schools. We are one sick society.


57 posted on 11/28/2011 7:33:40 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Jim Robinson; bvw

JimRob,

Please review the comments on this thread posted by both me and bvw. If I’m out of line, please delete my account.

Vr,

A. Grizzled Bear


58 posted on 11/28/2011 7:33:45 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: Randy2u; bvw

Don’t mind me. I’m just messing with a paleo-troll.

You need not fear confronting me on this problem. I’m an addict. I can’t restrain myself from sweet, delicious paleo-troll hunts.


60 posted on 11/28/2011 7:39:11 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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