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Report: Boeing to settle NLRB lawsuit
The Post & Courier ^ | November 30, 2011 | Brendan Kearney

Posted on 11/30/2011 11:43:56 AM PST by jazusamo

Boeing and its Machinists' union have struck a deal that both settles the controversial National Labor Relations Board lawsuit and keeps the new 737 production line in Washington, the Seattle Times is reporting, citing unnamed sources.

According to the report, the union will announce the agreement momentarily, at a 2 p.m. EST news conference.

The agreement is huge news for South Carolina as Boeing's North Charleston plant had been at the center of the NLRB case. While the terms of the deal have not been announced, it would seem the Dreamliner production facility by Charleston International Airport is now in the clear. South Carolina seemed to be only marginally in the running for the 737 MAX production line.

The announcement of the deal comes just a few hours after Boeing Commercial Airplanes CEO Jim Albaugh spoke to investors in New York, saying, among other things, that the company had not chosen where to build the 737 MAX. He also praised the South Carolina operation, echoing a previous statement that certain units at the North Charleston campus are producing above the overall 787 program rate.

The reported agreement also comes almost a year before the existing contract with the Machinists expires and as Boeing begins an across-the-board plane-building ramp-up in an effort to reduce a years-long order backlog.

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A letter the Machinsits union's leaders published on its website about the Boeing deal:

In late October, senior executives from Boeing approached us to ask if we could get together to talk about issues that were going to come up in the 2012 contract talks. We agreed to meet with them to hear what they had to say. What resulted was an ongoing dialog and a series of meetings that ended with a proposal by the Company to extend the current contract with some changes in certain areas — but a huge improvement in job security, which was your No. 1 issue in our first survey for the 2012 contract negotiations.

For these meetings, we pulled together our union negotiating teams, who have experience dealing with the various topics the Company wanted to cover: Health and Benefits, Job Security, Pay, Pension and Incentives. Although we had an idea the Company might want to extend the existing contract, we had to wait until they confirmed it in writing that this was their intent.

We did not publicly announce these talks, for reasons we know you understand. In the past, we've gone through negotiations with media, politicians and bloggers second-guessing our moves and trying to determine the outcome while we work against a looming deadline. To make a big public splash this time would have undermined what we were doing and would have gone against the reasons why we agreed to meet with the Company in the first place.

We now know this was the right decision. What has resulted is an unprecedented commitment by Boeing to Puget Sound and Portland for the 737MAX and the related manufacturing that's currently being performed here. This will generate long-lasting security for our members. It also resulted in a Boeing commitment to the success and continuation of the other airplane programs where our members have shown time and again their expertise, productivity and quality, resulting in increased profits for the Company.

Based on many factors – the current economy, the state of affairs at Boeing and our ability to secure unprecedented Job Security for our members -- we unanimously recommend you vote to accept this proposed contract extension.

We need to be clear: this proposal does include some sharing in the increases in Health Care costs, with the amount varying, depending on the plan you choose. Negotiations are about give and take and to achieve gains in Job Security, Pension and Wages, we had to be willing to compromise elsewhere. However, in doing so, we were also able to increase benefit levels in dental and vision, and win protections that cap the amount you will be paying, including guarantees that you won't have to pay any future federal taxes on healthcare plans. In the end, we'll still have health care benefits far superior to those earned by most workers in our industry, and our nation.

On the plus side, there are some significant improvements, which are outlined on these pages. This should be considered as a full package as you discuss this proposal with your family.

Ultimately it is up to you as members to vote whether to accept this contract extension proposal or reject it. Summaries of the proposed contract extension will be available at all Union Halls, and a complete text of the Company's proposal will be available online (www.iam751.org). We urge you to study them carefully.

Taken as a whole, we think you'll like what you see. This proposal addresses what you told us was important to you; therefore we recommend you accept it by voting yes.

In Solidarity

Your Union Negotiating Team

Mark A. Blondin, Aerospace Coordinator Tom Wroblewski, District 751 President Robert C. Petroff, Assistant Directing Business Rep W24 Steve Rooney, District 70 President


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: South Carolina; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 737; 787; boeing; machinistsunion; nlrb; southcarolina; unions; washington

1 posted on 11/30/2011 11:44:03 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

bookmark


2 posted on 11/30/2011 11:45:44 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: jazusamo
"However, in doing so, we were also able to increase benefit levels in dental and vision, and win protections that cap the amount you will be paying, including guarantees that you won't have to pay any future federal taxes on healthcare plans."
3 posted on 11/30/2011 11:49:25 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jazusamo

I’m confused as to how (or if) this affects the new SC plant and NLRB actions.


4 posted on 11/30/2011 12:00:46 PM PST by umgud
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To: All
An article from Reuters.

excerpt:

The 28,000 members of the International Association of Machinists & Aerospace Workers will vote on the contract deal next week, the union said on Wednesday.

If ratified, the union said it would drop its grievances against the company over its establishment of a new 787 production site in South Carolina, which is the subject of a dispute between Boeing and the NLRB.

Boeing, union make early deal, would end NLRB case

5 posted on 11/30/2011 12:03:17 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: umgud

That looks like the big deal to me, the NLRB complaint about the SC plant will go away.

Check my post #5


6 posted on 11/30/2011 12:05:39 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: upchuck; Baynative

South Carolina & Washington Ping?


7 posted on 11/30/2011 12:09:01 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

This NLRB/commie fiasco is a good reason to outlaw Unions in the USA.


8 posted on 11/30/2011 12:17:47 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: jazusamo

Here’s a newsflash for the NLRB and the Unions:

(Boeing should have said...)

We’re opening our S. C. plant and proceeding with production.
Neither the NLRB or any Union have any standing in our decision.


9 posted on 11/30/2011 12:17:58 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: jazusamo

Boeing surrendered to the thugs


10 posted on 11/30/2011 12:22:00 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: jazusamo

In 25 years at Boeing I have NEVER seen IAM settle so quickly on a contract. The threat moving the 737 MAX out of Renton was one heck of a card the company held. My wife will be thrilled to know we will not have to move. We now have enough work to carry me well past retirement. :-)


11 posted on 11/30/2011 12:22:03 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: GeronL

I’m not privy to what’s going on in the negotiations but if this truly does make the NLRB complaint go away on the SC plant I believe Boeing got what they wanted.


12 posted on 11/30/2011 12:25:41 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: NavyCanDo

That’s good news!


13 posted on 11/30/2011 12:27:19 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Yep, a foot in the door of a non union plant. They expand the plant for the “plastic” planes, and let the union guys build the aluminum ones back in WA.

Then they come out with another composite model to be built in SC.

My 2¢ anyway.


14 posted on 11/30/2011 12:33:04 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: jessduntno
...including guarantees that you won't have to pay any future federal taxes on healthcare plans."

That makes me feel so much better about paying that extra 10% hike in my self-paid premium this month.

My BC/BS now officially takes more of my already taxed income than my mortgage.

15 posted on 11/30/2011 12:39:15 PM PST by digger48
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To: jazusamo

Boeing is too dependent on Gov’t contracts to be able to tell the NLRB to shove it.....but they should.


16 posted on 11/30/2011 12:42:37 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: NavyCanDo

I assume that BNSF will remain in the business of air travel by rail (from KS).


17 posted on 11/30/2011 1:01:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: jazusamo; l8pilot; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
Thanks for the ping.

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18 posted on 11/30/2011 1:20:21 PM PST by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Paladin2

“I assume that BNSF will remain in the business of air travel by rail (from KS).”

Yep. And BNSF delivers more than 737 body sections. Spirit Aero has part cars that go to Everett as well. So even if the 737 moved out of state, they would still ship from KS to WA by train.


19 posted on 11/30/2011 1:25:16 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

I love seeing 2+ fuselage assys zipping across the fruited plains (and mountains).


20 posted on 11/30/2011 1:37:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GeronL

It’s tempting to think so, but it could also be that both the union and the Obama administration wanted this issue to go away in the run-up to the election.

For the Obamanites, the issue gives the Republicans a perfect club to beat them over the head with in South Carolina, and by extension, the rest of the South and every other “right to work” state.

For the union, well, let’s just say it doesn’t make them look very good either, and they know damn well that if Republicans win in November next year, the suit will be dropped anyhow.

Bottom line, Boeing wanted to get busy making planes, the administration wanted this to go away, and the union realized that this was probably the best deal they could hope to get — and it would let them save face with their members by touting the gains.

I don’t think the unions have very much confidence that Obama will win reelection.


21 posted on 11/30/2011 1:38:22 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: jazusamo
In Solidarity

A bunch of oxygen thieving commies.

22 posted on 11/30/2011 2:26:12 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: jazusamo

So the union scum, with the assistance of the effing federal govt, extorted more money, jobs and benefits from a private company.


23 posted on 11/30/2011 3:22:35 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Ronin

Your analysis is correct.

If the GOP is smart they won’t let this issue die. We need other companies to make the same moves starting right now. We’ve got the chance to drive unions completely out of the private sector.

They need a team looking up the thousands and thousands of little cases that the NLRB is going nuts on right now. It is killing job creation. This issue should not go away until Obama is out of the WH.


24 posted on 11/30/2011 3:50:33 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GeronL

I’m not so sure. The NLRB was pressured by the union to prevent Boeing from opening the SC plant. Boeing gets to proceed because of offerings of red cloth and sparkly things.

IMO it seems that this was a slight of hand maneuver to save face for thug... err I mean union leaders.

Once the plant is up and running in SC, screw the machinist union.

I defer to the folks who’ve been following this more closely than I.


25 posted on 11/30/2011 5:00:17 PM PST by Toadman (Let the GOP wither, and the Tea Party Prosper.)
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To: Toadman

“red cloth and shiny things”

lol


26 posted on 11/30/2011 5:05:05 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: NavyCanDo

Yup.

All around good deal.

Probably would have cost a fortune to tool up down SC way for the 737...

Especially with all the orders Boeing is pulling in.

Not much else to brag about in downtown Renton, eh?

;-)


27 posted on 11/30/2011 5:14:28 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: GeronL

>> Boeing surrendered to the thugs

Yep.

Screw Boeing.

Hope they go bankrupt.


28 posted on 11/30/2011 6:33:02 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: jazusamo

This deal looks a lot like a face-saving way for the IAM and the NLRB to give up.

This is a victory for conservatives. The National Labor Relations Board’s (NLRB) attempt to dictate where businesses invest has failed.

the IAM knew the courts were very unlikely to shut down the South Carolina plant, while the NLRB itself will soon lack a quorum — and ability to act.

Obama would have a difficult time defending it on the campaign trail. Today’s contract allows the IAM and the administration to back down without formally admitting they made a mistake.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284570/iam-drops-charges-against-boeing-james-sherk


29 posted on 12/01/2011 10:32:55 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
This deal looks a lot like a face-saving way for the IAM and the NLRB to give up.

I think you're right on the money. That coupled with the comment in post #11 made it easier for the IAM and NLRB to fold.

30 posted on 12/02/2011 8:26:20 AM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Paladin2

“I love seeing 2+ fuselage assys zipping across the fruited plains (and mountains).”

The rest of the journey is nice as well. If you don’t blink you may see me in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=zKnsyYbfC60&feature=popular


31 posted on 12/05/2011 11:24:46 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo
Thanx. That was cool (esp as I have spent more than a few days in auto assy plants).

I'd guess that Boeing doesn't do many flame paint jobs though.

32 posted on 12/05/2011 11:31:17 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I have a Boeing rail car including the 737 body section, as a part of my O-Gauge train collection. One of only 200 Boeing rail cars made for train collectors. There are Boeing execs that would pay a small fortune for it. But its mine all mine. Of course I have a BNSF SD70 to pull it around during those rare times I let the Boeing car on the track


33 posted on 12/05/2011 12:22:34 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

I saw 4 or 5 up close and personal at the Livingston, MT train depot one evening a couple of years back. I’ve heard that the car behind the fuselage carries the paperwork, but maybe it’s the tail?


34 posted on 12/05/2011 1:55:45 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Nothing is in the car at the tail. We have been working with Spirit to use it for delivering parts kits but that’s been an uphill battle. So for now it just protects the tail and provides a place for taggers to do their work. People in my work group have ridden the train all the way, doing studies of locations where the fuselage gets the most damage from coming in contact with trees, brush, rockfall and such.


35 posted on 12/05/2011 4:41:20 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo
Maybe future 737s will need gun ports and ball turrets. For protection from the children. They have some cool automated ones these days. Or you could use remote control.

I figure that they could be used as high speed passenger trains, from Kansas anyway.

36 posted on 12/05/2011 4:55:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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