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S. Florida Rainbow Snake Declared Extinct, Reward Offered to Prove it is Not
reptilechannel.com ^ | 30 Nov 2011 | unattributed

Posted on 11/30/2011 1:47:24 PM PST by smokingfrog

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS) declared in October that the South Florida rainbow snake (Farancia erytrogramma seminola) is extinct, but the Center for Biological Diversity and the Center for Snake Conservation think otherwise, and have put up a $500 reward to the first person who can document that the snake is not extinct.

Cameron Young, executive director of the Center for Snake Conservation said in a press release that declaring the snake extinct without adequate research is scientifically irresponsible. Young hopes that in offering a reward for valid documentation that the snake is not extinct, the proof will spur conservation efforts to ensure that the reptile survives into the future, and hopefully be returned onto the Endangered Species List.

The center says that USFWS declared the reptile extinct without conducting any focused surveys on the animal in its native habitat in spite of anecdotal evidence that the snake is eating eels in the Fisheating Creek area. By declaring the snake extinct, the species is no longer afforded protections under the Endangered Species Act.

The South Florida rainbow snake is an elusive species that is rarely seen in its native habitat, which is the Fisheating Creek area in Glades County, Florida. It is known from just three specimens, the last which was collected in 1952. Little is known about the snake, though it is believed to be entirely aquatic and active only at night and feeds exclusively on the American eel. There were unconfirmed sightings of the snake in the late 1980s, but no sightings since.

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Full Title: Feds Declare S. Florida Rainbow Snake Extinct, Reward Offered to First Person With Proof Snake is Not

Reward Offered for Sighting of South Florida Rainbow Snake


1 posted on 11/30/2011 1:47:31 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

One less thing to worry about.


2 posted on 11/30/2011 1:51:15 PM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: smokingfrog

I’ll just bet Bawney Fwank can find one.


3 posted on 11/30/2011 1:51:15 PM PST by Ben Mugged (The truth is incontrovertible)
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To: smokingfrog

You better hope they don’t find any or the entire state of Florida will be declared a habitat.


4 posted on 11/30/2011 1:51:34 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
You better hope they don’t find any or the entire state of Florida will be declared a habitat.

More likely they'd arrest the winner who brought it in for disturbing an endanger species. And Heaven forbid the winner tells them he/she found it at home.
5 posted on 11/30/2011 1:53:47 PM PST by DTxAg
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To: smokingfrog

My wife hates the things, even if it was the last mating pair on earth she would grab a shovel and chop them into little pieces while screaming.


6 posted on 11/30/2011 1:55:55 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: smokingfrog

Striking color. That would make a nice belt. If you see one, let me know.


7 posted on 11/30/2011 1:56:31 PM PST by sphinx
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To: smokingfrog

Just a ploy by the DFG to find, arrest, and confiscate all property from the “violators”.


8 posted on 11/30/2011 1:59:11 PM PST by This Just In
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To: smokingfrog
How much TAXPAYER money is wasted on Agencies that are useless? ("Center for Snake Conservation", for one).

I personally don't give a crap about snakes becoming extinct, when the Country is going to Hell in a hand-basket.

9 posted on 11/30/2011 2:00:46 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: sphinx

Its a pickled specimen. A live one is breathtaking. Not called a Rainbow Snake for nothing.

I belive they feed mainly on aquatic salamenders like Amphiuma, missnamed “Congo” Eels - very ugly and very nasty amphibians with a wicked bite.

Farancia is a semi-aquatic fossial species, very secretive, so it very well might still be around South Florida - hopefully.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farancia


10 posted on 11/30/2011 2:05:49 PM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: traditional1

“I personally don’t give a crap about snakes becoming extinct, when the Country is going to Hell in a hand-basket.”

Fine. But the two pursuits are not mutually exclusive.

I like animals and I regret it when any species becomes extinct. Its a loss that can’t be replaced and every species is a potential source of many items of use to humans - both practical and esthetic.


11 posted on 11/30/2011 2:08:28 PM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: smokingfrog

I got a nice belt and hatband that looks JUST LIKE THAT!

Ok, just kidding.


12 posted on 11/30/2011 2:08:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: smokingfrog

Whadda ya expect with a gay snake?!?!?


13 posted on 11/30/2011 2:09:40 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: smokingfrog

Do you have to bring the whole snake in, or just the head?


14 posted on 11/30/2011 2:10:30 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: smokingfrog

99% of all species that have ever inhabited the planet are extinct.

So we really all are the 1 percenters.


15 posted on 11/30/2011 2:10:39 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: smokingfrog
feeds exclusively on the American eel

[insert John Edwards joke here]

Actually most of nature's picky eaters end up going extinct anyway.

16 posted on 11/30/2011 2:11:53 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: smokingfrog

yeah right, like anyone will bite on a 500 dollar reward for that. No one will admit to seeing one if it is on their own property. Too much to lose.


17 posted on 11/30/2011 2:12:15 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: traditional1

The Center for Biological Diversity is a non-profit, but it is the same group that caused all the Spotted Owl controversy a few years ago.


18 posted on 11/30/2011 2:14:26 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
Cameron Young, executive director of the Center for Snake Conservation said...

They have a Center for Snake Conservation? Time to defund the agency.

19 posted on 11/30/2011 2:16:37 PM PST by ken in texas
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To: mamelukesabre

Simply tell them you saw one slithering around in your rude and obnoxious neighbor’s yard.


20 posted on 11/30/2011 2:18:55 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: smokingfrog

Oh, I might just send them on a wild goose chase. This is soooo a**inine. First of all.....WHO CARES!!!


21 posted on 11/30/2011 2:27:47 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: smokingfrog

Is The Center for Biological Diversity also known as ACORN, and Get Out The Vote, or possibly, Center for American Progress?


22 posted on 11/30/2011 2:31:34 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: donhunt

Why would you worry about a harmless and beneficial creature?


23 posted on 11/30/2011 2:32:50 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smokingfrog

Careful bud....snakies love to eat froggies.


24 posted on 11/30/2011 2:32:50 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: Sacajaweau

tell them you saw 3 in new jersey


25 posted on 11/30/2011 2:32:50 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: smokingfrog

Dead or alive?


26 posted on 11/30/2011 2:34:48 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: smokingfrog

The same spotted owls now being killed off by the larger barred owls that love to prey on other large birds.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Spotted-Owls-New-Nemesis.html

We had one of these show up at our place last year. Huge bird! I am surprised it did not get one of our barn cats.


27 posted on 11/30/2011 2:35:20 PM PST by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: smokingfrog

Boy if I found one on my land I would have to send it somewheres else.


28 posted on 11/30/2011 2:36:31 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: ken in texas
They have a Center for Snake Conservation? Time to defund the agency.

It's not a government agency. It's a private non-profit. The fact is that they're taking on the government here, trying to prove that that USFWS got it wrong when they declared the snake extinct.

29 posted on 11/30/2011 2:37:46 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Maybe you should start going out at night to take pictures so you can get a picture of one. Of course, you’ll have to get some night vision goggles and a few other things.


30 posted on 11/30/2011 2:38:07 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

for the record, this is not a species, it is a subspecies.


31 posted on 11/30/2011 2:40:48 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

The reward will be given to the first person to document a rainbow snake south of Interstate 4 in South Florida. No harm can come to these highly imperiled snakes. Acceptable documentation includes photos with specific locality information, which can be sent to seminola@snakeconservation.org. If you can hu-manely capture the snake alive, you should immediately call 770-500-0000 so we can send a biologist out to meet you at the capture site. The biologist will identify the snake, collect scales for DNA analysis, and return the snake to the wild unharmed. Please hold live snakes in containers with breathing holes.


32 posted on 11/30/2011 2:41:47 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: ZULU

“I belive they feed mainly on aquatic salamenders like Amphiuma, missnamed “Congo” Eels - very ugly and very nasty amphibians with a wicked bite.”

Hey....donchu be a’dissin’ mah kin!


33 posted on 11/30/2011 2:43:14 PM PST by Salamander (I'm Wounded, Old And Treacherous.)
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To: smokingfrog

Quite a history involving Fisheating Creek and Lykes Brothers.
The mega company illegally blocked access to the creek for years. Only opened after a lengthy court battle.
Absolutely pristine, plenty of Bald Eagles and big cats.
Great canoe or Kayak and camping area. Pack it in and out. No facilities.


34 posted on 11/30/2011 2:44:31 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy is just a quota boy No RINO's)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Thanks for the clarification. I missed that part on my scan of the article.

If people want to conserve snakes on their own dime, they can do it.

35 posted on 11/30/2011 2:45:10 PM PST by ken in texas
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To: Ben Mugged

“I danth at the Rainbow Thnake.”


36 posted on 11/30/2011 2:46:03 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: smokingfrog

Hey! I got some boots that look like that!


37 posted on 11/30/2011 3:01:43 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: smokingfrog
I don't live in that part of the state.

I have spent many nights in the swamps, however. I always enjoyed taking a city slicker along in my canoe, just to hear them scream every time a frog farted.

38 posted on 11/30/2011 3:03:35 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: smokingfrog
South Florida Rainbow Snake


39 posted on 11/30/2011 3:08:42 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: Abathar

Your wife and I would be good friends, we think alike, snakes are for killin’! :/


40 posted on 11/30/2011 3:09:17 PM PST by Ditter
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To: smokingfrog

I’ll check my low country swamp lagoon - once the alligator hibernates.

Have several species of snakes commuting between the magnolias and the palmettos.

Would be fun to find one - but how would I catch it?


41 posted on 11/30/2011 3:25:01 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: smokingfrog

:The biologist will identify the snake, collect scales for DNA analysis, and return the snake to the wild unharmed.”

Down to perhaps one snake and the AnencyPerson will “return the snake to the wild unharmed” ? ? ?

Why not have it crossed with the putative trinomial which is available?

The head AgencyPersons will not be pleased - this could have been another excuse for a “captive breeding program” to “bring back from the very brink of extinction” a rare species.

BAH! HUMBUGGERY!!!!

IF such a snake is found, the herpitology community can do the captive breeding successfully (more than AgencyPersons and the ‘academented) can usually manage.


42 posted on 11/30/2011 3:25:14 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: sodpoodle

Put out your rainbow flag and see if it attracts anything.


43 posted on 11/30/2011 4:05:24 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

I et one fur dinner last night. Can I show you dat proof?


44 posted on 11/30/2011 5:03:24 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: smokingfrog
Beautiful snake ...thx for posting the image and article! 'Hope someone finds a viable population of live ones.

I well remember the one and only time about 15 years ago I came across an eastern mud snake of the same genus. I was doing some early April pre-season turkey scouting when I ran across an adult mud snake that was feeding on some tadpoles at the edge of a large mud puddle on a flooded logging road in Surry County, VA ...strikingly beautiful snake w/very glossy, vivid markings ...must've just shed its skin!

Link to eastern mud snake (Farancia abacura abacura):

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlife/species/photos/030025-1.jpg

45 posted on 11/30/2011 5:07:56 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: smokingfrog

“Fisheating Creek area”

Good memories of camping along an swimming in Fisheating Creek as a kid back in the 70’s.


46 posted on 11/30/2011 5:08:34 PM PST by Rebelbase (Yes we Cain!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Never been to Fisheating Creek; but, have some wonderful pictures of the Osceola subspecies of Wild Turkey taken in that area in one of the books by Dr Lovett Williams. Are you aware of whether he still operates his hunting camp on Fisheating Creek?
47 posted on 11/30/2011 5:15:43 PM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Ozymandias Ghost

Do not know.
I flew over the creek area last week.
Not a soul to be seen.
Wild hog and some deer is all I saw from about 500 feet.


48 posted on 12/01/2011 4:09:29 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy is just a quota boy No RINO's)
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To: Joe Boucher
LOL ...it seems as thought those feral hogs are quite a problem for native wildlife in the Southeast. ‘Hopefully they taste good and that will help to keep their numbers under control.

Thx for the “aerial survey!”

49 posted on 12/01/2011 4:17:13 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Salamander

Hmmmm. Did this white guy with a black sounding forum name (ZULU) smoke out another racist?


50 posted on 12/01/2011 4:44:03 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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