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Ben Stein: Cain isn't running for pope (See Video)
CBS News ^ | December 2, 2011

Posted on 12/02/2011 7:26:49 AM PST by yorkie

Author, lawyer and former game show host Ben Stein says politics are getting a little too personal, and believes candidates should not be judged by their "gossipy love life."

Appearing on CBS' "The Early Show," Stein said the coverage of GOP president contender Herman Cain and allegations of extramarital affairs was getting to be too much.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adultery; benstein; cain; nationalbooktour; saint; sinner; stein

1 posted on 12/02/2011 7:27:03 AM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie

Just as with Clintoon....I’m not as concerned about the affair, as I am the abject lying about it. Everyone makes mistakes—but it’s those who don’t come clean (c’mon, hundreds of texts, at all times of the day or night...and giving her money secretly? Yes, in a divorce court it would of been proven as an affair.) whom I really cannot trust.

Cain should quit lying about it. Of course now that he has issued all the denials....even if he told the truth now, people would know he’s a creep and a liar.


2 posted on 12/02/2011 7:34:29 AM PST by AnalogReigns (because REALITY is never digital...)
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To: yorkie

I’m with Stein here. If he only admitted to causing pain in his marriage, and told the MSM to shove it, passengers and bags of money would jump back ip on the train!

Cain’s opponents have committed adultery, allegedly, anyway. That fact cannot derail the train. He just can’t be lying to us. he can’t stand by “I didn’t have sexual relations with that woman.”. He needs to be honest yet discreet. He has a good chance again If If If he comes clean without sharing details, and spanks the media on their double standard re candidates. Where was this anal probing on Obama and Edwards?


3 posted on 12/02/2011 7:35:50 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: yorkie

Ya know......when you look at the divorce rate in the US at about 50%. When you consider the numbers are said to be even higher for those cheating on their spouses, what do people expect from a candidate?


4 posted on 12/02/2011 7:35:55 AM PST by RC2
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To: AnalogReigns

You are assuming he is.


5 posted on 12/02/2011 7:36:00 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Yaelle
..passengers and bags of money would jump back ip on the train!

..and, if the rumors are true, one of the women flipping this weekend. That could change the entire game.

6 posted on 12/02/2011 7:39:08 AM PST by mnehring
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To: yorkie

Part of the problem for Cain is that he has no record in public office. If he had a public record he could run on, this may not have mattered so much.


7 posted on 12/02/2011 7:44:12 AM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: mnehring

A lot of us are assuming that he did something wrong with this woman. The devil could be in the details. He could have slept with her once or twice many years ago, and for 13 years after, she has blackmailed him for money.

I don’t feel, at this dangerous point in our nation, that his sex life is that important and rules out a Tea Party President. If we can lie with a Down Low Obama or a serial philanderer like Gingrich, then I prefer an imperfect Herman Cain.

If he is really telling the truth about not having slept with her, he needs to fight harder. But if he’s lied so far, get out there in front of the cameras with your wife, beside a Christmas tree, admit you’ve caused her pain, and get bleeping ANGRY at the media’s double standards! Ask the media where they were when everyone knew John Edwards was boffing his videographer, and got her pregnant during his campaign, all while his wife was dying of cancer!


8 posted on 12/02/2011 7:44:59 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: yorkie

Clinton wasn’t running for Pope, either, but he was (rightly) impeached. Either we stand for family values, or we don’t. If we don’t, evil not only wins, but runs rampant. I normally like Stein, but he’s dead wrong on this one. I can’t believe, let alone understand, how so many people who call themselves conservatives, are willing to give Cain a walk on this.


9 posted on 12/02/2011 7:46:40 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Yaelle
A lot of us are assuming....

That really does say it all doesn't it. You can choose either to think the best of someone or the worst. You chose the latter.

10 posted on 12/02/2011 7:47:19 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Which woman will flip? Awesome. Where did you read this?


11 posted on 12/02/2011 7:47:32 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Lie with a = live with a

Excuse all my typos. One handed holding a baby...


12 posted on 12/02/2011 7:49:10 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Several forums like RedState & Hannity. They aren’t by noob trolls either, on Hannity, one person posted they heard this was one of the longest posters there (one of the first 10 sign-ups, makes you think it is someone big..)


13 posted on 12/02/2011 7:51:56 AM PST by mnehring
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To: yorkie

100 years ago a man would be fired from his job for being caught in adultery.

That’s because employers rightly discerned that a man who will cheat on his wife will cheat on his employer.


14 posted on 12/02/2011 7:55:48 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: mnehring

Sorry. I would love to think Cain did nothing wrong at all. But even his attorney “fought” this by saying it was a private matter between adults and the media shouldn’t subject candidates to this inquisition! And what man pays monthly to support a woman his wife doesn’t know about? Many bold leader type men have an appetite that takes decades to learn to control. I believe in the Good of Herman Cain but Occam’s Razor dictates that he probably did something with this friend at one time.

I do think the best of him. Good men fall. Gd made our sex drives pretty strong and I don’t know what Cain’s marriage was like.


15 posted on 12/02/2011 7:55:48 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: AnalogReigns

Hundreds of messages? What are we doing here, playing a game of telephone or something?


16 posted on 12/02/2011 7:57:21 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: MizSterious
Clinton was not impeached for committing adultery.
17 posted on 12/02/2011 7:59:47 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Lou Budvis
Part of the problem for Cain is that he has no record in public office. If he had a public record he could run on, this may not have mattered so much.
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Paalease, all we have had in the Oval Office are professional politicians and the misery index has gone through the overhead.

18 posted on 12/02/2011 8:01:08 AM PST by iontheball
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To: mnehring

Searching for this info about one of the accusers coming clean. Which Hannity thread?


19 posted on 12/02/2011 8:03:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: SoCal Pubbie

No, he was impeached for lying, and lying about “never having sex with that woman.” Do not forget what started it all.


20 posted on 12/02/2011 8:07:39 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Yaelle

I’d love to have a choice between a guy who screwed a few chicks and a guy who is screwing the whole country.


21 posted on 12/02/2011 8:10:04 AM PST by null and void (This is day 1046 of America's ObamaVacation from reality.)
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To: yorkie

For many years I’ve wondered how I would confront the prospect of having to vote for a candidate who holds ostensibly solid conservative political views, but happens to have a sleazeball private life. And, that this would be the only option against a lunatic lib candidate. Luckily I’ve never had that situation arise to date.

Harkening back to how much it just repelled me to my very core when Clinton was sullying the Oval Office, I frankly just don’t think I could vote for someone with such a seedy background. I could overlook McCain’s wrecked first-marriage (who knows what really happened anyway), because after seven years of POW hell, the psychological ramifications of returning home and experiencing freedom again would probably make anyone wig out. So, I can certainly understand a few extenuating circumstances. But when it comes to Newt, for example... well, that’s a lunch I just can’t keep down. I can’t see myself lowing my whole sense of standards, morality, and decency to vote for someone I regard as so sleazy and without character. And I don’t really have any genuine hatred for the guy. I’ve certainly enjoyed him in the debates, if anything.

As for Cain, the jury’s still out. I’m still giving him a little benefit of doubt until we get a better picture of the situation. Especially since I know how we’ve now entered a realm in which Soros operatives can toss around a million bucks to buy an accuser to character-assassinate any conservative they wish.


22 posted on 12/02/2011 8:10:09 AM PST by greene66
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To: yorkie
I agree with Stein to a point. The first bimbos alleging some vague sexual harassment were likely set ups by DNC operatives and could be dismissed. However, having a 13 year “relationship” with this woman if true shows a lack of character that I find troubling. The details of JFK's peccadilloes certainly give a different impression of the man and of course Clinton was known to be a rake even before he was elected.
23 posted on 12/02/2011 8:12:27 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: mnehring
".and, if the rumors are true, one of the women flipping this weekend. That could change the entire game. "

What do you mean by flipping? Thanks in advance.

24 posted on 12/02/2011 8:13:38 AM PST by avacado
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To: greene66

Newt has been very upfront about his personal mistakes. When he converted to Catholicism, if he made a good confession all of that was forgiven according to his faith. If we hear about any further transgressions - then that’s an issue.


25 posted on 12/02/2011 8:21:47 AM PST by Lou Budvis (Newt/Marco '12)
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To: Lou Budvis

Ah, but with Newt, there are many other things that confession won’t resolve, such as supporting global warming nonsense with Nancy Pelosi and several other decidedly liberal stances. Nevertheless, his private life was, maybe is, a mess. But it’s his liberal leanings that leave me cold.


26 posted on 12/02/2011 8:24:39 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: greene66

Gordon Liddy answered this question 35-odd years ago. When a train’s in trouble and the engineer’s dead, the crew and the passengers don’t need a civil or chemical or nuclear engineer, a lawyer, a doctor, a carpenter, or a good person or a nice guy; they need a railroad engineer, someone who knows how to right the train. It’s only after they’ve found a few railroad engineers that they’d have the luxury of weighing the candidates’ other assets and liabilities.

Despite his resume, Cain doesn’t appear to be that engineer. And without that qualification, the liabilities—whether true or not—don’t matter.


27 posted on 12/02/2011 8:31:12 AM PST by Mach9
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To: Mach9

Oh, I’ve heard that argument before, and it certainly has some merit. But I still separate the role of “leader” as something beyond what an expert craftsman, engineer or some such does. There’s a moral component to leadership, which I can’t discount.


28 posted on 12/02/2011 8:41:09 AM PST by greene66
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To: Yaelle

He needs to be honest yet discreet.

I agree but being divorced from a cheating husband, that little fact can blow a marriage apart I don’t care where you come from or who you are. It takes a lot of trust and work to get it back on course - most times it doesn’t. Sadly, he made poor choices and must now decide on coming clean for his election or covering to save his marriage. Either decision has consequences.


29 posted on 12/02/2011 8:45:11 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

Electing a president involves trust. If a man’s wife can’t trust him, how can I trust him?


30 posted on 12/02/2011 8:52:28 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

If a man’s wife can’t trust him, how can I trust him?

I agree. See #29. I know frist hand about it.


31 posted on 12/02/2011 8:56:06 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: yorkie

Sorry ! He’s been accused by a wacko of being a bad man - no President for you ! Next !

/SARC


32 posted on 12/02/2011 8:59:22 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Bitsy

Well, we aren’t looking at Cain as a deceived spouse, but against the other candidates we could vote for. They are all cheaters.

What gets me is how he thought, if these allegations are true, that this would not come out.

I hope he does not drop out but come back more honest and strong as ever... I actually DO hope for change. If we get stuck with obama again, he is a known cheater with MEN and a CRACK PIPE. I’ll take herman’s infidelities.

I am sorry for what you went through. I would feel the same. But we don’t have any choir boys running. Unless you call mitt a choir boy.


33 posted on 12/02/2011 11:21:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: MizSterious
Clinton was impeached for committing perjury and obstruction of justice. Lying to Hillary, or all of us for that matter, is not a “high crime and misdemeanor.”
34 posted on 12/02/2011 4:24:39 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: yorkie
Ben Stink:

Author, lawyer, and all around limosine liberal jerk..

..he donated to Al Freakin in Minn.

...all of his opinions and words are dead to me....

35 posted on 12/02/2011 4:28:02 PM PST by cherry
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Or, in plain English, LYING. No one, especially me, said a word about Hillary, who could not have been the least bit surprised.


36 posted on 12/02/2011 5:30:10 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious

If you don’t know the difference between lying and obstruction of justice I’m not going to take the time to explain it to you.


37 posted on 12/03/2011 9:22:44 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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