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You Have No Privacy
Townhall.com ^ | December 3, 2011 | Floyd and Mary Beth Brown

Posted on 12/03/2011 7:56:05 AM PST by Kaslin

If you are like us, every day you pick up a smartphone and you send email, visit with friends on Facebook, send a text message or even log into your bank's website and pay a bill. These modern day conveniences have become routine.

We all believe that our passwords are secure, our data is protected, and life is easier if we don't have to write a check to pay a bill or dig around and find a stamp to send a friend a quick note.

But this morning we are no longer sure. The tech world is in a fury, which we believe will soon break out into society at large, about a little-known software program call Carrier IQ. Over the Thanksgiving weekend a 25-year-old programmer by the name of Trevor Eckhart posted a video on YouTube which graphically displays how our naïve beliefs of privacy are just plain wrong.

The video, which lasts 17 minutes and starts slowly because he methodically goes through the privacy statements on his cell phone, is frightening. If you watch it, you will never look at your smartphone the same again. We have posted the video at Floydreports.com if you want to watch.

The program, Carrier IQ cannot be turned off. But it tracks your every move. Dial a friend's phone, it sends the number off to someone. Send or receive a text message and the message is recorded and sent off. Call up your bank or another website in the allegedly secure https: mode which we have been told is secure, and Carrier IQ is there recording your username, password and any other move you make on your phone.

Rather than calling them smartphones, we should be calling them people monitors. The only action you take which it cannot record is a thought in your head that you refuse to express. These phones are even capable of recording what you say. Scary is not the word for it.

Trevor Eckhart even takes pains to turn of the GPS function for use by Google maps and search and then he demonstrates how Carrier IQ still is logging your position.

Now what can you do about it? The program can only be removed if you hack or as they say "root" your phone. But beware – rooting your phone likely violates the contract you have signed with your carrier, and it clearly voids any manufacturers’ warranty you may have on the device.

Since the video was first posted, others have gone to work and exposed how in addition to Android phones, the Carrier IQ software is also present on I Phones with iOS3 operating system and above.

The privacy issues surrounding smartphones have been numerous, but the exposure of Carrier IQ brings the threat to an entirely new level. Chances are if you have a smartphone, you have no privacy around or while using the device. Be careful.

Makes you understand why criminals all use burner phones.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: android; bigbrother; carrieriq; cellphone; cellphones; corruption; criminals4privacy; eckhart; fraud; gps; ios3smartphone; iphone; keylogger; lping; policehaters; privacy; smartphone; smartphones; somethingtohide; trevoreckhart; waronterror
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To: A_perfect_lady
Might make a good alibi, though, for someone thinking ahead. All you need is a reliable accomplice who can take your smartphone for a very traceable outing, complete with FB comments, while you head in the other direction to commit whatever mayhem you had in mind.

Or just duct tape it to your neighbors car and retrieve it later. That way you don't have to worry about an accomplice spilling the beans.

61 posted on 12/03/2011 4:39:05 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

oooh—a criminal mind.


62 posted on 12/03/2011 5:20:44 PM PST by Palladin (Santorum/Bachmann 2012.)
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To: Kozak
"Want to really get creeped out/ go to Spokeo.com and type in your name...."

Interesting... I use Spokeo.com all the time to verify my own customers identities (I sell Automotive programmers online) and had not bothered to put my own name in till you suggested it.

44 different hits with my name, none of them are me, none indicate an address where I live and none even in the state where I own my retirement property.

For someone who has lived online since the internet was made public, I've done ok :-)

63 posted on 12/03/2011 5:26:12 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: Kozak

Now that is spooky. They have 4 instances of me in Indiana, and all of them are me at different addresses!


64 posted on 12/03/2011 5:36:27 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: G Larry

Someone can take over my computer via Facebook?


65 posted on 12/03/2011 5:39:19 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Yes!
Someone can take over your computer via Facebook.

So warns the Feds to it’s Defense Contractors!


66 posted on 12/03/2011 5:46:29 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: RockinRight
This is frustrating, and scary, downright 1984-ish, but, what can we do? Simply shun all the technological advances we’ve had for the last 100 years? Move to a cabin in the woods with no power and hunt, fish, and gather again for sustenance? Even sending a paper check through the mail has your account number on it.

Yeah, you're right. From government mandated brain implants to sending a check through the mail, there's no way to assess any difference in appropriateness

And anyway, we are helpless to do anything no matter what we learn.

Jerk.

67 posted on 12/03/2011 6:23:21 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Ajnin

No no no... duct tape leaves a residue... maybe hide it on top of an EXIT sign in a darkened movie theatre for an afternoon matinee? (Make sure you do actually see the movie first, so you can describe it convincingly.)


68 posted on 12/03/2011 6:46:44 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Lloyd227
I just found myself on Spokeo.com....... creepy. They had my correct address and the address of a bay house we sold over 10 years ago. I didn't pay to see the rest of my info, it was just too creepy. I am a no body why would all that info be out there about me?
69 posted on 12/03/2011 7:01:51 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Talisker

Aside from the fact that I inadvertently deleted a whole paragraph before the thing about the “check through the mail” before posting (therefore making my post incomplete), I’m not sure what makes me a jerk.


70 posted on 12/03/2011 7:35:04 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: Ditter

Mine is relatively accurate...but doesn’t seem to know about my kids, thankfully.

I presume it’s a conglomeration of things like zabasearch.com, property records, and phone records.


71 posted on 12/03/2011 7:37:55 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: Kozak

Want to really get creeped out/ go to Spokeo.com and type in your name....

You aren’t kidding. The front of my house is on that page. The only thing they got wrong was my religion.


72 posted on 12/03/2011 10:27:28 PM PST by Luke21
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To: G Larry

Tor has been a great friend in that regard.

Smartphones? What the hell do I need one for?


73 posted on 12/03/2011 10:57:58 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: Ditter

All from public records and online social networking sites. It’s just a database clearlinghouse


74 posted on 12/03/2011 11:10:14 PM PST by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: Kaslin

marker


75 posted on 12/04/2011 5:08:41 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: precisionshootist
While I always hesitate to say we need legislation, but in this case I think we do.

THAT'll fix the problem!!

76 posted on 12/04/2011 5:20:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
The answer was to encrypt you messages.

You are AUTOMATICALLY guilty!

77 posted on 12/04/2011 5:22:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: bgill
Most all these type searches have people we don’t know living with us.

You'd best fly out the back door, when they come to get THEM!

78 posted on 12/04/2011 5:23:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ridesthemiles
I have tried to convince a friend that his Suburban with ONSTAR knows where he is at all times & he scoffs.

True, but OnStar® doesn't CALL and tell SOMEONE else until you wreck. (AFAIK)

79 posted on 12/04/2011 5:27:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ridesthemiles
... OnStar® doesn't CALL and tell SOMEONE else until you wreck. (AFAIK)

Now that I've said that; how does OS open your CAR DOOR FOR YOU if you lock yourself out?

What ELSE can OS 'do' that you have NO idea of?


80 posted on 12/04/2011 5:30:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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