Posted on 12/03/2011 11:36:27 AM PST by TBBT
It usually comes down to this - I try to decide which of the candidates is probably going to do me and the country less damage, then that's who I vote for. That's how I ended up voting for both Bushes and McCain. The alternative was far worse.
Other than Ronald Reagan, when have we had someone terrific to vote for on the national level? Pretty much never. And that is how it will almost always be in a 2 party system. Most of the time the majority of Americans are not going to have someone they are really excited about to vote for for President. Republicans had Reagan in 1980 and Democrats had Obama in 2008. Otherwise both sides, particularly the grass roots on both sides, are usually pretty let down and voting mostly against the other guy. At least most conservatives are still thrilled with Reagan and wished we had another. The lefties hero, Hussein, has been a craptastic failure.
So long as we have a system like ours that prevents coalition building, there is really no way more than 2 serious party's can exist at the same time. Once in a great, great while one party will implode and be replaced by another - but then that new party will just become the 2nd leg of the 2 party system.
Every candidate remaining in our field of potential nominees would be better than Obama - if for no other reason than court selections. I will vote for whoever the Republicans nominate. All of our influential conservative voices like Palin, Cain, Rush, Hannity, etc, will endorse, campaign and vote for our nominee. All the wailing aside, most of those saying they won't vote for this or that candidate will end up voting for the Republican nominee. Reality will set it, and removing Hussein from the White House is just too important.
It was the 9-9-9- plan that cost him my wife and I. Further more it was the 9-9-9 plan that cost him the support of others we know that had originally thought, that because of his business experience, he might be good.
I don't know anyone who dropped him because of unfounded and unproven accusations.
I'm very sorry if that was the case but its also why I'm frustrated that a man I supported, Herman Cain, assumed that he could keep up some kind of extra-martial 'relationship' and not be exposed.
I'm just ticked off that it's so easy for the DNC and the leftmedia to destroy any conservative with these sex scandals. I don't support Newt Gingrich but fully expect the mud to start flying at him by next week, at the latest.
Problem there is the socialist/commies will comfortably pair up with the Dems every time, so one way or the other that side will always be in.
Repub. country club and Conservative parties would fight like cats and neither would ever win.
I've been unimpressed with Perry so far although I can't say that I wouldn't vote for him depending on who his challengers were.
Rick Santorum suffers from a charisma deficit and Michelle Bachmann has made a lot of foolish mistakes but I'm not really against her, either. I would take Perry or Bachmann over Newt but I don't think Rick Santorum can defeat Obama head-to-head. We'll see who does what in the next few days as the fallout over Cain's withdrawal takes shape.
There will never be that diversity in our system because, whether intentional or not, it is designed for 2 party's. That is the reason there has essentially ALWAYS been just 2 party's from the founding on. If one party becomes so rotten or useless it implodes, the new party that replaces it simply becomes the 2nd leg of a two party system.
The problem is there is no possibility of coalition building. So long as governing coalitions can not be built, people wisely realize that voting for 3rd party's simply dilutes the relative strength of their block of common interests. In essence, what this means is that more often than not Americans are voting AGAINST another party and are simply pooling their ideological strength to prevent something worse from taking power. It is extremely rare, especially at the national level, that the majority of Americans actually have someone they are really excited about voting FOR.
LOL...like another poster said, you are out of your mind!
This is really just not accurate. What destroys conservatives with sex scandals is Republican voters who won't tolerate them. It is why Democrats can more easily get away with this stuff. Democratic voters are less family values oriented and less traditional, therefore they care far less about these kinds of things. Republicans are far more vulnerable to sex scandals and the resulting hypocrisy charge precisely because of the core voters they appeal to.
The media didn't destroy Cain, Cain destroyed himself. If none of these accusations were true, he would not have dropped out. Period. His problem was he couldn't adequately defend himself against these charges which means there was likely something to them. There is just no way around it.
To those that will say by not voting I am voting for Obama. Nope, just letting the republican insiders they don’t have my support on who they choose...Never missed a presidental vote and I am in my 7th decade...tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils...screw them all..I am conservative not a blind republican...”””
Ditto. Same age range. Female. Conservative.
Cannot wait to call Dean Heller’s office on Monday & yell at him about voting FOR bill to allow sodomy & beastiality in our military!!!
I just wish there were a way for every lied to contributor to get their money back.
What a giant @hole.
Sheriff Paul likes Romney.
I like both Sheriffs, but I sure as hell ain't gonna vote for either Romney or Perry because they like the.
Neuter them and they quit fighting... :-)
How so exactly?
Who gets driven out of political races on unfounded accusations? Think if the skanky drunk woman who lives down the street from me accused Romney of an affair it would drive him out? Think if some random dude decided to accuse Bachmann of an affair it would drive her out? No, because they would be able to dispute the charges so convincingly that the allegations would be laughed at.
No one drops out of a political race if allegations made against them can be adequately disputed. Remember the affair charges made against Nikki Haley by some blogger in 2010? Did they drive her out of the race? No, she shot them down and kept shooting them down anytime such charges turned up. Cain's problem is he couldn't defend himself. He couldn't defend himself because the accusations either had truth to them, or other aspects to the story would have emerged that would have been equally damaging.
I seriously doubt you come close to his intellect and leadership ability. I find politicians dangerously stupid on running a business. Hence, the appeal of Herman Cain.
We're getting Newtered instead.
As a former Palin supporter, I’m so sorry for the Cain supporters right now. It is a hard blow to have your candidate bow out when you belived so much in him (her).
Don’t let anyone say, now vote for _____. Do your homework and make up your mind. There aren’t any right choices now, only “the least offensive of our bad choices”.
I finally settled on Newt, but I would never tell anyone else their choice is wrong. I selected Newt because at this point, WE ARE TOTALLY SCREWED, so we might as well have some great debate action against Obama.
I also like his prior record of conservative accomplishments and pray to God, he fights for conservatives, once again, as he did many years ago.
Good luck.
Thanks for poving my point that it had nothing to do with th 999 plan.
How true...
You would be wrong.
At least I know where Libya is located.
Isn't this essentially exploiting a technicality to get a handout from us taxpayers?
Good question.
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