Posted on 12/04/2011 6:29:33 PM PST by presidio9
And John McCain thought it was also a good idea to address La Raza...
You ass-u-med that the poster meant to include legal “hispanic” citizens (who might have received amnesty in `86) when he expressly stated “illegal aliens.”
Responding to the call of the question the correct answer is that illegal aliens should not have the right to vote, but if it were possible to give it to them, John McCain or Newt Gingrich would probably try to see if that could be accomplished ... since “hispanics” were such an important factor in the 2008 election.
Gigrich, in any event, is going out of his way to make sure that illegals do NOT get the right to vote, by proposing deportation for most of them, and offering the small percentage who remain legal status, but not citizenship.
Me hopes that McCain will shut up until the general election is over. He really hasn’t contributed anything to our party. In fact he’s done more damage than good. Plus he made things worse by bringing up his dingbat daughter in his image.
LOL. No. They are not.
The only place you can find someone willing to be called "Hispanic" is in the United States, simply because the Nixon administration wanted a census category to lump people from or descended from Spanish speaking countries. Look how successful they were by the number of posters who routinely use the term like it actually describes something or somebody identifiable.
You and I are really not at odds over the essential point I think you want to make: the majority of illegal aliens come from south of our southern border and by-and-large they speak Spanish.
How did McCain’s “humane way” work out for him in 2008? Of the three states he mentioned, 0bama won two: Colorado and New Mexico—and took about 2/3 of the Hispanic vote nationwide. McCain is a prophet without honor, and we should accord him none.
Why are we redicuded to the mere color of our skin before politicians in regard to our vote?
Why must I be seen as a white, a black, or a Hispanic? Have I not a mind of my own, the ability to think and judge for myself?
The very idea that ethic groups should vote in unison is revolting. While polls and social & ideological pressure from within and without theses groups might support the idea. I think it simply sick.
If you are going to identify a man identify him by his choices not what he was born as!
It’s easy to see where Meghan got her intelligence.
Shut up McCain and sit down.
oh great..we pick up say another 5-10% of their bloc?
the lackluster way they vote, that’s only 1/2 to 1 percent of total votes
you wanna mine votes?
go for the soft cracker middle
that is where elections are won
pandering to minorities pays little dividends for now
maybe one day as latinos further eclipse blacks that could change but for now unless you shift 25-50% of them...fuggedabout it
much easier to sway 7% of whites than 50% of latinos
Wrong, wrong, and wrong, it was the illegals in the service union that got dingbat Harry Reid reelected. And the unions know it will be easy to get more illegals to join.
If latinos oppose abortion, why is it legal in mexico city??? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090126170309AA2Bs5S
If this is going to be the direction of his campaign, shouldn’t he be pitching it in Mexico or Guatamala?
Illegals don't vote. Please try again.
For the purposes of this discussion, the only relevant information is what Hispanics in this country care about. That being said, from the link you provided:
Abortion is only legal if the woman was raped, or the pregnancy represents a mayor risk for the woman's health,
Labor Unions may have once been on the side of immigration restriction, but they aren’t anymore. Groups like the AFL-CIO are leftist organizations first and foremost. They’ve betrayed their members on immigration, apparently betting instead on the permanent power immigration-driven demographic changes may give to Democrats.
Do you really believe that if Newt were to become President and pass his Red Card nonsense, that it would actually stand? Do you really think that the red-carded wouldn’t eventually be granted a path to citizenship?
Even if the Democrats went along initially (as a calculated first step), eventually the policy would be attacked as creating second class citizens. Proponents of this policy will become the new racists, bigots, xenophobes, etc.
And there is no reason to think Newt would have the backbone or right state of mind to either stand up to or ignore this garbage. In fact it would probably be the opposite.
Remember, Newt completely sold out and betrayed conservatives on racial preferences back in the 90s. He could have passed a strong, popular anti-racial preferences bill (as he pretty much promised to do before he was actually Speaker) that would have been hard for Clinton to veto. But once he actually had the power and position to do this, he changed his tune.
He’s never been called to account for this unfortunately.
However the Mexican Constitution specifically forbids the church to own property, for clerics to publicly wear clerical garb, and at the beginning of the present political era, priests were hunted down and liquidated, convents destroyed, etc etc. Mexico is NOT a "Catholic country."
Huge numbers of Mexicans have also been converted by protestant missionary activity (also technically illegal). Here in the US, the Catholics have gone all out to make them welcome.
Isn't this just maddening! We are supposed to pretend that we don't know that many hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, and many LEGAL aliens who do have the right, are illegally registered across the US.
WTF? I am not worried. Karl Rove tells me that they are the "Republicans of the Future."
Isn't this just maddening! We are supposed to pretend that we don't know that many hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, and many LEGAL aliens who do NOT have the right, are illegally registered across the US.
WTF? I am not worried. Karl Rove tells me that they are the "Republicans of the Future."
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