Posted on 12/05/2011 9:18:29 AM PST by GregNH
Herbert W. Titus is of counsel to the law firm of William J. Olson, P.C. Prior to his association with this firm, Mr. Titus taught constitutional law, common law, and other subjects for nearly 30 years at five different American Bar Association approved law schools. From 1986 to 1993, he served as the founding Dean of the College of Law and Government in Regent University, Virginia Beach, Virginia. Prior to his academic career, he served as a Trial Attorney and a Special Assistant United States Attorney with the United States Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. and Kansas City, Missouri. Today he is engaged in a general practice with a concentration in constitutional strategy, litigation, and appeals.
Mr. Titus holds the J.D. degree (cum laude) from Harvard and the B.S. degree in Political Science from the University of Oregon from which he graduated Phi Beta Kappa. He is an active member of the bar of Virginia and an inactive member of the bar of Oregon. He is admitted to practice before the United States Supreme Court, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the United States Court of Claims, and the United States Courts of Appeals for the Sixth, Seventh, Ninth, Tenth, District of Columbia and Federal Circuits. His constitutional practice has taken him into federal district courts in Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Montana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, Wyoming, and the District of Columbia and the state courts of Idaho, Texas and North Dakota.
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During L.Col. Lakin’s trial, his lawyer discovered that Barry Soetoro had an immigration file. A copy was requested to be used as evidence at trial. Request was denied, but it is now known that it is being held by Janet Napolitano (Homeland Security).
Note: natural born citizens do not have immigration files.
The information was on The Post & Email, if you care to search for it.
1. I attended law school and am frequently at law schools, and I can ssure you that law professors do NOT use the honorific “Dr.” Nor is it applied to them by others. The title used is “Professor”.
2. Lawyers have a JD, which is the first degree a lawyer gets. It is a “doctorate”, but it is more on par with a Masters degree. The advanced degree some lawyers seek is an LLM, which is a “masters” degree, but it is more on par with a doctorate. That is the reason a JD is not usually referred to as “Dr.”
3. A law professor who allows (without correcting them) students or colleagues to call him “Dr.” is thought to be a pompous cad.
4. A lawyer who lectures undergrauate students (rather than graduate law students) is not really considered to be a real law professor. A “law professor” is a description best reserved for a full-time regular faculty at a law school. Any lawyer can teach a course as an adjunct at a law school or teach at the undergraduate level.
This lawyer does seem eminently qualified.
However his highest degree is a JD, and a JD who uses the title “Dr.” is a joke among his legal and academic peers.
Perhaps someone on the internet has applied the honoric “Dr.” to him without realizing it is inappropriate (if for no other reason than the poor form stands out and calls the information into question - at least among those familiar with law and academia).
“During L.Col. Lakin’s trial, his lawyer discovered that Barry Soetoro had an immigration file. A copy was requested to be used as evidence at trial. Request was denied, but it is now known that it is being held by Janet Napolitano (Homeland Security).”
Why are you still repeating this and claiming it’s true? I pointed out to you over a month ago that this is false. You even ADMITTED that the person you were talking about was Pamela Barnett, who is not an attorney, much less Lakin’s attorney.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2798516/posts?page=78#78
And since Barnett wasn’t his attorney, it couldn’t have been “requested to be used as evidence at trial.”
During L.Col. Lakin’s trial, his lawyer discovered that Barry Soetoro had an immigration file. A copy was requested to be used as evidence at trial. Request was denied, but it is now known that it is being held by Janet Napolitano (Homeland Security).
Note: natural born citizens do not have immigration files.
The information was on The Post & Email, if you care to search for it.
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Do you see Barnett’s name there - I don’t.
That doesn't make it less false. Lakin's attorney never requested any immigration file.
And since you seem to have forgotten, let me refresh your memory:
SatinDoll: "Many folks do not know this: Barry Soetoro, aka Barak Obama, has an immigration file as an Indonesian refugee. The existance of this file was discovered by an attorney during the courts martial of a U.S. Army officer. Homeland Security refused to releas the file for the trial’s discovery."
Vickery2010: "Wow. Virtually NONE of that is even remotely true. Did you make that up yourself, or did you just hear another Birther say it?"
SatinDoll: "The source is Susan Barnett, an attorney for the Army officer."
Vickery2010: "Then it's a bad idea to prove that with MORE false information. A Google search of "susan barnett"+"court martial"+"obama" produces all of seven results, none of which have anything to do with what you're saying. Now if you drop "susan" from that search, there are lots of results mentioning a PAMELA Barnett. Is that who you're trying to refer to? "
SatinDoll: "Cpt.Pamela Barnett is an attorney for LCDR.Lakin."
Vickery2010: "That’s highly unlikely, considering that Cpt. Pamela Barnett is not an attorney."
See, YOU claimed that YOUR source was Barnett. And Barnett doesn't claim Lakin's attorney requested anything, or that the government told Lakin's attorney anything.
So have you managed to get a *new* source for this claim in the past month? Because otherwise, it really looks like you're trying to sell the exact same crap story, despite KNOWING that it's false.
Not in social circles, certainly; but what about in the academic setting?
(Although I would more likely expect them to be called "professor"?)
Right or wrong, I know of a few who have done this, but in all cases it was a professor in an academic setting.
Just askin'.
But in any case, I agree about the "Esq."
Ah, you’re upset. Put some ice on it.
Under common law, it would change because the status is based upon to which nationality the parents adhere in terms of allegiance. If not an Indonesian citizen, then Obama's NBC status was still natural-born British subject.
Not even in an academic setting.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/index.html
There is a very reasonable explanation for all of the social security numbers, information down a black hole, bizarre family history...etc.
Three letter Government Agency.
“Ah, you’re upset.”
Is this how you usually respond to getting caught lying? Pretending it’s the other person’s fault for noticing?
“Put some ice on it.”
It’s not MY pants that are on fire, I’m afraid.
Great. Now get someone outside the Birther fringe to agree with that.
Of course some lawyers DO use DR. Perfectly legit.
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/lawyers_are_doctors_too/
The use of the honorific “Dr.” is especially useful in Dr. Titus’ case, as he is a professor of law, and has practiced law at higher levels of professional standing than most lawyers.
A couple of questions.....
1) Is there a legal documentation in Hawaii or elsewhere stating what Obama's 'legal' name is?
2) If the Catholic custodian crap of Connecticut is true.....Through E-verify and other sources, why do they say that this Connecticut Social Security number was never issued to Barack Obama?
Your link actually confirms that the profession largely rejects the honorific title “Dr.”
A JD lawyer who uses “Dr.” invites the ridicule of the academy and the profession.
It is similar to a person with an honorary doctorate - they technically can use the title “Dr.” but if they do they invite ridicule.
As a practical matter, it is NOT legit.
Even the deans of Yale and Harvard Law who are JDs don’t use the title “Dr.”
As a practical matter, there is no “higher level” or academic status that legitimizes the use of “Dr.” by a JD.
No self-respecting JD (who does not also have an MD or PhD) a uses the title “Dr.” Its not done.
Interesting. Now the Supreme Court is part of the so-called “Birther fringe.” How long have you felt this way??
Meaning you don't like it.
The article itself is ALSO evidence that a number of lawyers are doing it. That is, it is legal, legitimate under industry ethics guidelines, and some are actually swimming in the pool and not just dipping their toes.
... other than the actual words of the Court which is what I was referring to.
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