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Steyn: Newt ‘like Teddy Roosevelt mixed someone sort of novelty-crazed futurologist’(Nails it!)
The Daily Caller ^

Posted on 12/07/2011 2:47:47 PM PST by indianrightwinger

Steyn: Newt ‘like Teddy Roosevelt mixed someone sort of novelty-crazed futurologist’ By Jeff Poor - The Daily Caller 9:19 AM 12/07/2011

In an appearance on “The Michael Berry Show” on KTRH in Houston on Tuesday, a disappointed Mark Steyn, the author of “After America: Get Ready for Armageddon,” declared the 2012 Republican nominating process a failure and chalked up the proliferation of cable debates as a substitute for campaigning in the early primary states as the reason.

“I think the nomination process failed last time around when John McCain wound up as the nominee and I think it is heading for failure this time around,” Steyn said. “I’m speaking to you from my home in New Hampshire … but in my state of New Hampshire, one reason we like the primaries is its all supposed to be about swinging by local diners and county fairs, and the annual pancake breakfast and all this kind of thing. And we know the clichés — the woman who tells the Washington Post, the New York Times every four years, you know, ‘I won’t vote for any candidate I haven’t danced with at least three times.’”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; gop; marksteyn; newt; obama; teddyroosevelt
He nails it! The debate process has been a joke and is giving us a choice between Newt and Romney. The worst of the worst.
1 posted on 12/07/2011 2:47:53 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

Sorry, most conservatives have read dumpbachmann.com and that’s where we get all our information about her.

And Herman, he’s a womanizer.

We like Newt cuz he’s smart.

And Romney cuz he’s next in line.

/sarc just in case you missed it...


2 posted on 12/07/2011 2:56:23 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Newt is the worst candidate, except for all the other ones.


3 posted on 12/07/2011 2:56:32 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: indianrightwinger

It is what it is..... I’ll be voting for Newt Gingrich.


4 posted on 12/07/2011 2:57:40 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: Gator113

Hehehehehehe.....you sum up very well how badly the GOP is screwed up this season and how badly this bodes for the country with an Obama re-election.


5 posted on 12/07/2011 3:00:51 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

lol


6 posted on 12/07/2011 3:01:24 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Hugin
Newt is the worst candidate, except for all the other ones.

National Post: "You were born in Toronto, but live in the U.S. Are you still a Canadian citizen?"

Mark Steyn: "I'm a citizen of Canada, never been anything else. I don't believe in dual citizenship."

So it seems like this Canuck fellow is telling we Americans how to vote. Has Mark Steyn become an American citizen since that interview with his home country's periodical?

7 posted on 12/07/2011 3:04:15 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: indianrightwinger

We didn’t have all those debates in 2007 - so how come we got stuck with McCain?


8 posted on 12/07/2011 3:04:29 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: indianrightwinger
We already had a statist masking as a conservative as president.

With Newt this will be the true death knell of conservatism as a viable political alternative in the US.

Once again liberal policies will fail, but while being labeled as right wing.

At this point I almost wish ... almost ... that Obama wins so that when the dust clears after the apocalypse all of the blame will be laid at the feet of the liberals.

9 posted on 12/07/2011 3:07:32 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: indianrightwinger

If you want another good Steyn take down of Newt, try this:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/285097/re-has-gingrich-changed-et-al-mark-steyn


10 posted on 12/07/2011 3:08:23 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll vote for Mitt Romney when Hell freezes over. He's as bad or worse than Zero.)
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To: indianrightwinger

I was saying it in 2009 and 2010. We need an elected conservative leader to do what Palin was doing. We needed someone like Jim DeMint to try and take thew wind of the conservative movement into his sails.


11 posted on 12/07/2011 3:08:36 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: indianrightwinger

Romney has not been attacked by the Democrats, period. He is their preferred opponent.

Newton Leroy Gingrich is despised, publicly, by both Democratic Party and Republican Party establishment types. He is being trashed AS he attacks Obama, the administration, and Progressive stances and politics.

Who do you think the corrupt politicians fear more?

If you can’t bring yourself to say, “Newt Gingrich”, then you better hope Sarah Palin is drafted during a brokered, free-for-all nominating convention (which will be highly unlikely).


12 posted on 12/07/2011 3:09:57 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I am not that far behind. In that sense, I would rather lose with an outsider, states rights candidate like Perry than with big liberal Newt/Romney. At least, the philosophical contrast would be aired in the election cycle.


13 posted on 12/07/2011 3:11:40 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

I’m glad debates have replaced all that retail politicing in IA and NH b/c I’m tired of those two niche states shoving themselves to the front every four years. Most who live in medium to large states will never even get a chance to see the candidates up close, much less demand they eat in some greasy spoon diner with them.


14 posted on 12/07/2011 3:11:55 PM PST by Lou Budvis (Newt/Marco '12)
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To: Abby4116
"..so how come we got stuck with McCain?"

He won more primaries.

Blame it on your fellow "citizens".

That's in quotes because they really aren't citizens, because that would require some effort.

They are merely voters, and they vote according to what the LMSM is telling them.

15 posted on 12/07/2011 3:12:49 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: re_nortex
So it seems like this Canuck fellow is telling we Americans how to vote. Has Mark Steyn become an American citizen since that interview with his home country's periodical?

He's more of an observer who has interesting and entertaining opinions. I wouldn't fault him for expressing them. If he ends up working in the White House, like David Frum did, that would be a different matter.

16 posted on 12/07/2011 3:15:04 PM PST by x
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To: indianrightwinger

There aren’t any decent candidates. It’s just as bad as the last time around. I’m not commenting too much on these candidate threads recently, because there’s hardly any point.

Any way you slice it, unless something new happens, we’re likely to end up with a lousy candidate, and probably Ron Paul or The Donald running on a third party ticket to deliberately ensure that the GOP loses.


17 posted on 12/07/2011 3:15:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Abby4116
"so how come we got stuck with McCain?"

Giuliani was supposed to run and split the moderate vote. For some silly reason he put all his eggs in the Florida basket.

The conservative field was hopelessly divided among several candidates, one of which (Fred) did the Sarah-Palin-Shuffle long enough to sap most of the energy away from the other conservatives preventing any of them from breaking out.

If it turned out that Thomson and Giuliani were paid by McCain to do what they did, I wouldn't be surprised.

18 posted on 12/07/2011 3:19:23 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: indianrightwinger

“He nails it! The debate process has been a joke and is giving us a choice between Newt and Romney. The worst of the worst. “

It is by no means just “the debate process”. That, at least, has given us a little insight into the candidates, their personalities, and their capabilities. The main reason we’re where we are with the Republican candidates is the MSM, and the very effective smear campaigns launched at our best conservative candidates.

I mean, Cain “is a horrible womanizer”...never mind that Gingrich is at least as bad, but is somehow still in the race...and now the frontrunner?

I find it horribly ironic that in 2008 the Republicans nominated a squishy moderate, not-so-charismatic, too old WASP with temperament issues...and this time the Republicans are about to nominate a squishy moderate, not-so-charismatic, too old WASP with temperament issues - with really less to recommend him personally than McCain the war hero. Sadly this inanity/insanity comes at a time the country can least afford it, both figuratively and literally.

Sarah Palin so far outshines the current field it isn’t even funny. Too bad the attack dogs got to her. At this point I could learn to like Santorum.


19 posted on 12/07/2011 3:20:40 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!)
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To: Cicero
"Ron Paul or The Donald running on a third party ticket"

Or how about RuPaul? At least we'd be able to say our president had balls!

20 posted on 12/07/2011 3:22:54 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: x
He's more of an observer who has interesting and entertaining opinions.

Thanks for the feedback and it is appreciated. Where in the world did Mark Steyn get that British accent? He's from Toronto and most of them speak like, well, Americans albeit with an occasional "eh" thrown in. :-)

21 posted on 12/07/2011 3:23:54 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Newt was a big fan of “futurist” Alvin Toffler, for those old enough to remember “Future Shock” and “The Third Wave”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(book)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler


22 posted on 12/07/2011 3:23:54 PM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: indianrightwinger
He couldn't "nail it" if "it" was strapped down. For all I like Mark Steyn as a sub for Rush, he has demonstrated an amazingly superficial understanding of Newt's record beginning with his incorrect characterization of the CWA during his last stint on Rush.

As for the debate process, it has given us the best race for the nomination I have witnessed. The large number of debates that Steyn bemoans has given candidates with very little in the way of resources exposure well beyond their ability to purchase air-time.

There is a reason for Newt's rise and a reason for Cain's demise. Newt has repeatedly demonstrated an in depth knowledge of the issues confronting American and that he has spent more than a little time considering solutions to those problems.

On the other hand, Cain repeatedly demonstrated an astonishingly narrow and uninformed world view. It was clear that Cain had not even spent much time considering foreign policy issues until he began to rise in the polls--he even said as much in his interview with Neil Cavuto when he said he was "a work in process and I am learning as I go . . .and I am becoming more knowledgeable on a lot of these topics." Anyone who enters the arena of national politics should already know at least as much about it as we who discuss it on this forum--not the detailed information that one relies on to make policy, but just a general well rounded understanding of the various issues facing us.
23 posted on 12/07/2011 3:31:01 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: re_nortex
Mark Steyne was born in Canada but educated in Britain and started working over there before moving to the US.

A lot of Brits emigrated to Canada right after WWII. Steyne's parents may have been among them; I don't know.

24 posted on 12/07/2011 3:33:49 PM PST by x
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To: Designer
not necessarily, I voted for the lieing, thieving, senile old bastard in hopes that he would win the election and then drop dead and leave Sara in charge.
25 posted on 12/07/2011 3:41:54 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: re_nortex
So it seems like this Canuck fellow is telling we [sic] Americans how to vote.

You sound just like the feminazis who used to tell me I had no right to an opinion on abortion because I wasn't a woman. It was a stupid argument.

26 posted on 12/07/2011 3:42:59 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy
You sound just like the feminazis who used to tell me I had no right to an opinion on abortion because I wasn't a woman. It was a stupid argument.

You were born a man, not a woman. You can't change biology (regardless of what liberals might claim).

Mark Steyn was born a Canadian. He can't change that. But he can change his citizenship and become an American.

27 posted on 12/07/2011 3:51:47 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
At this point I almost wish ... almost ... that Obama wins so that when the dust clears after the apocalypse all of the blame will be laid at the feet of the liberals.

That was supposed to happen in his first term...

I'm not a Ron Paul zealot by any means, but we need someone to stick the establishment in the eye..

28 posted on 12/07/2011 4:12:00 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: indianrightwinger

I am sick of the idea that we are “stuck” with Newt and Romney without 1 stinking vote being cast! Looks to me like there are still others on the ballot and here we are braying like donkeys about the front runners selected by some mysterious polls or msm hacks. What is wrong with us? We are supposedly the electorate. Are we that swayed by these bogus polls? If so, then we are simply no better than those with whom we are against. Get up and fight for the candidate you want, it’s the only way we are going to get the best of the best.


29 posted on 12/07/2011 4:16:09 PM PST by myrabach
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To: CommieCutter

But you forget how good Obama is at shifting the blame onto someone else. It’ll be “Bush’s fault”.


30 posted on 12/07/2011 4:19:03 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: indianrightwinger
Steyn is absolutely right, Gingrich is a "a 'big government' compromiser branded as a right-wing extremist."

But I disagree with Steyn that the debates have been a bad thing.

The debates were invaluable in flushing out a couple of unworthy candidates (much as it pains me to say this): Perry and Cain.

Steyn seems to have forgotten that the GOP nominee, whoever he or she is, will have to debate the Dem nominee next fall. Ability to handle a debate is crucial, even if the Dems throw up Obama again.

If the only way we had to evaluate candidates was Steyn's preferred process (actually I'm not sure he's being serious here) -- i.e. the ol' pressin' the flesh in Iowa diners and dancin' with the ladies shtick -- we would probably have stayed bowled over with Herman Cain's charm .... and would not have discovered that he was a fraud ... until too late.

31 posted on 12/07/2011 4:24:52 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: shhrubbery!
Steyn seems to have forgotten that the GOP nominee, whoever he or she is, will have to debate the Dem nominee next fall. Ability to handle a debate is crucial, even if the Dems throw up Obama again.

I disagree. The debate with Obama will be a sham, as the McCain/Obama and all other presidential debates in my memory have been. McCain was lackluster in the debates, but so was Obama. Both were too afraid to make a mistake to really score any points. If you don't make some really bad mistake (like Gore sighing and shaking his head every time Bush spoke) you get through it with a bunch of people saying "The dem won" and a buch saying "the republican won". It won't be a deciding factor, it never really is (Kennedy/Nixon perhaps being the exception that proves the rule).

All that said, it would be nice to for once have a candidate we didn't have to defend as "not a dummy".

32 posted on 12/07/2011 5:23:47 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Twinkie

He’s not good at it.

He has the media on his side.


33 posted on 12/07/2011 6:47:15 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: indianrightwinger

Steyn was GREAT on EIB last week. It was so refreshing to hear intelligent, honest analysis and commentary about the GOP race instead of the brain dead, pom-pom waving, lipstick-on-a-pig SPIN being ladled out by the big three of talk radio.


34 posted on 12/07/2011 7:19:21 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: BfloGuy

Care to guess how many of our news casters are American Citizens? Sadly the ones that are, are traitorus fools.


35 posted on 12/07/2011 8:03:01 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I like Mark Steyn, but he’s out in left field when it comes to US electoral politics. He’s a Romney guy—I can’t take seriously anyone who’s a Romney guy.


36 posted on 12/07/2011 8:07:30 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Sudetenland

Agree completely. I also agree that anybody is preferable to 0. Giving 0 another four years will put at least one more liberal on the Supreme Court, maybe two.


37 posted on 12/07/2011 8:12:46 PM PST by balls (0 lies like a Muslim (Google "taqiyya"))
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To: Antoninus

Romney’s support has been the same set of voters all along - everyone else is anti-Romney.

At the end of the primary, all anti-Romney’s will outvote the Romney people (only between 20% to 25%).

It’s highly doubtful that Romney will be the nominee, much to the chagrin of the establishment.

Newt is trying to capture not all but enough from both the establishment and anti-establishment Republican camps.

Over the next few months I guess we’ll see if there is not a “revolt” amongst the anti-establishment to rally around one of the other candidates if they’re still in the race.

I personally hope Michele Bachmann resurges, but of course at this point Newt looks to be doing very well.

I don’t think Steyn is a Romney guy (I don’t think any many serious conservatives are); this link, for example shows some text from Steyn revealing that he’s not enamored with his politics:

http://www.steynonline.com/4226/mittle-ground

IMHO.


38 posted on 12/07/2011 9:34:20 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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