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Air Force dumped ashes of more troops’ remains in Va. landfill than acknowledged
The Washington Post ^ | 12-7-2011 | Craig Whitlock and Mary Pat Flaherty

Posted on 12/07/2011 6:39:00 PM PST by bimboeruption

The Air Force dumped the incinerated partial remains of at least 274 American troops in a Virginia landfill, far more than the military had acknowledged, before halting the secretive practice three years ago, records show.

The landfill dumping was concealed from families who had authorized the military to dispose of the remains in a dignified and respectful manner, Air Force officials said. There are no plans, they said, to alert those families now.

The Air Force had maintained that it could not estimate how many troops might have had their remains sent to a landfill. The practice was revealed last month by The Washington Post, which was able to document a single case of a soldier whose partial remains were sent to the King George County landfill in Virginia. The new data, for the first time, show the scope of what has become an embarrassing episode for vaunted Dover Air Base, the main port of entry for America’s war dead.

The landfill disposals were never formally authorized under military policies or regulations. They also were not disclosed to senior Pentagon officials who conducted a high-level review of cremation policies at the Dover mortuary in 2008, records show.

Air Force and Pentagon officials said last month that determining how many remains went to the landfill would require searching through the records of more than 6,300 troops whose remains have passed through the mortuary since 2001.

“It would require a massive effort and time to recall records and research individually,” Jo Ann Rooney, the Pentagon’s acting undersecretary for personnel, wrote in a Nov. 22 letter to Rep. Rush D. Holt (D-N.J.).

Holt, who has pressed the Pentagon for answers on behalf of a constituent whose husband was killed in Iraq, accused the Air Force and Defense Department of hiding the truth.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: airforce; ashes; bhodod; doverafb; fallen; landfill; usaf
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To: ladyjane
But Osama got a full religious burial service at sea.

You just dropped the bomb.

41 posted on 12/08/2011 8:42:07 AM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: DesertRhino

This is a disgrace. They could go in a garden or yard. There is no excuse for this. Sickening.


42 posted on 12/08/2011 8:42:39 AM PST by No Socialist
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To: bimboeruption
No excuse but a deatil,

e-mail in July from Trevor Dean, the mortuary director, saying that incinerated remains had been taken to landfills at least since he began working at Dover in 1996. Dean is one of the officials facing discipline for his role in the reported mismanagement at the mortuary.

43 posted on 12/08/2011 8:45:36 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: Billyv
The current USAF leadership is the left wing of the US military.

Maybe so, but it's been going on since the early 00's when USAF leadership was not left wing. So there really are no excuses for this.
44 posted on 12/08/2011 8:47:05 AM PST by hitchwolf
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; Girlene; bigheadfred; smoothsailing; RedRover; P-Marlowe; wmfights; ...
But Osama got a full religious burial service at sea.

And our troops get the bottom of the garbage pit at a dump.

Is this nation so far gone that it could be unworthy of the lives that have been sacrificed? Can it celebrate Pearl Harbor one day and put a deceased hero in a garbage disposal the next!?

45 posted on 12/08/2011 8:55:28 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
How do we desecrate the remains of our dead by putting them in a dump?!


I'm gonna get flamed for this. But oh well.
 
I'm finding it hard to see how these remains were desecrated by dumping them in a landfill. I find it abhorent that a body gets burned to ashes in the first place. That is not Christian.


46 posted on 12/08/2011 8:56:21 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

No words. There are no words.


47 posted on 12/08/2011 8:58:38 AM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: bimboeruption

I don’t know what I am more upset about, the way the Govt. treated the remains or that the families didn’t care enough to take care of the ashes themselves or at least make sure it was done correctly.


48 posted on 12/08/2011 8:58:38 AM PST by CARDINALRULES (Tough times never last -Tough people do. DK57 -- 6-22-02)
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To: Responsibility2nd

While I don’t consider cremation to be the discussion here, it is certainly not my preferred method of burial.

One can, however, desecrate remains that have been burned.

As I recall, many Christians have been burned at the stake. I have confidence that they will not miss the resurrection.


49 posted on 12/08/2011 9:00:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
However, does that satisfy the military's agreement with the families that they would dispose of these remains in a dignified and respectful manner?

I would never have a problem with it. I don't think we're talking about whole bodies or large pieces of bodies being disrespectfully disposed of. My understanding of the issue is that small parts of bodies were getting mixed together and no one could say where they belonged. Like the blood being washed down the drain, these parts weren't considered significant enough to warrant special treatment. Maybe they ought to have been, but I can't see getting excited about it to the point where we're getting ourselves all worked up.

For my part, I've been through that mortuary and seen how they operate. I can't honestly imagine anyone there deliberately doing anything to disrespect the remains of deceased service members.

50 posted on 12/08/2011 9:12:45 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: bimboeruption
Close the landfill, or that portion affected.

Entomb the area in granite, and erect a memorial.

NEVER let this happen again.

51 posted on 12/08/2011 9:15:06 AM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: bimboeruption

They need to have an area at Arlington or somewhere where these remains/ashes can be respectfully interred on an ongoing basis. It’s the least that can be done.


52 posted on 12/08/2011 9:45:29 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

When I first heard about this, I thought, “who the he// are these families?”


53 posted on 12/08/2011 9:59:53 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: onyx

Yeah. Who doesn’t make certain that their soldiers remains are cared for properly? I really was shocked at the FAMILIES.


54 posted on 12/08/2011 10:02:36 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: xzins; Forward the Light Brigade; Jim Robinson
I agree, if the Air Force can use that dump for heroes, then the Air Force can buy that dump and turn it into a proper cemetery.
We'll have there not the Tomb of the Unknown, but the "Tomb of the Unappreciated"

You have a pretty good idea, given the FUBAR situation.

This is both sickening and so very sad.

Our good Lord has sorted it out, but our fallen deserve a proper resting place, not a dump.

55 posted on 12/08/2011 10:07:36 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s been the conversation here this morning between me and DrO. We have been trying to understand!!!


56 posted on 12/08/2011 10:10:16 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: bimboeruption

This is sad. It angers me.

I would be shocked to find that it was legal to bury any human remains at a landfill.

I consider it to be an insult to these men, to dispose of them in this manner.

As for small bone fragments that were identified later, I’m not really sure what the best way to dispose of them is. If the service member has already been buried, I’m not sure it would be necessary to fully exhume the grave each time another bone fragment was identified. It does seem to me another dignified way to dispose of those fragments might be honorable too.

Some folks will have to pardon me here if I find it beyond weird that the Washington Post would act as if they gave a damn about any of this. They have exploited the deaths of our troops for decades, for political gain. They have tried to destroy respect for them and our armed services. They have tried to aid the enemy any way they could. For the Washington Post to act like another disrespect for our troops was bad, is beyond hysterical.

I can’t help but think that what upsets the Washington Post staff the most here, is that they didn’t know the precise spot to tell rabid Lefties to go take a piss.


57 posted on 12/08/2011 10:11:01 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Romney, Newt, any chance whatsoever you might sometime pander to U.S. Citizens vs the illegals?)
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To: onyx

I don’t know as we ever will understand.


58 posted on 12/08/2011 10:19:58 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Too much of the American military has become a bloated, anti-Christian, career building, social engineering bureacracy. This kind of insensitivity is what you’d expect from the tax department, not Defence. This is what happens once the military leadership becomes more concerned about their stripes than the men they are responsible for leading.


59 posted on 12/08/2011 10:20:49 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: bimboeruption

The US “Air Force” has NEVER been too keen on “Tradition” OR “Military Respect”. Dover AFB should be BRACed and ALL US Military “Mortuary Affirs” be Transferred to either FT Gorden, Ft Stewart, or Norfolk Navy Base. The US “Air Force” has proven itself UNTRUSTWORTHY!


60 posted on 12/08/2011 10:25:44 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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