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Army Navy Week Thread (Vanity)
Vanity | 8 December | Self

Posted on 12/08/2011 7:40:13 AM PST by chargers fan

Alright it's that time of year again. Here's a place for old grads of both schools and fans of the game to gather, talk about past games, and talk a little trash.

Side note: Over the past years these threads have gotten a little Navy heavy. Come on Army folks, I know there has to be some of you on FR.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: armynavygame; football; navy; thisistheirbowlgame; westpoint
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1 posted on 12/08/2011 7:40:18 AM PST by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan
This rivalry has gotten very one-sided in the last several years. Not only has Navy won so many in a row, but I think most of the wins were by comfortable margins. From what I see, I don't think Navy is quite as good as in previous years, but Army isn't much improved either.
2 posted on 12/08/2011 7:44:44 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: chargers fan
I retired after 20 years in the Army ...

I attended the Naval Academy for two years (1972-1974) ...

Decisions ... decisions ...

GO NAVY ... BEAT ARMY!!!

3 posted on 12/08/2011 7:45:36 AM PST by BlueLancer (Secede?! Y'all better just be thankful we don't invade ...)
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To: chargers fan

GO ARMY!


4 posted on 12/08/2011 7:46:05 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: chargers fan

Go Army! Beat Navy!


5 posted on 12/08/2011 7:46:56 AM PST by SquarePants
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To: chargers fan

http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-democrat/index.ssf/2011/12/west_point_cadets_will_run_wit.html

279.5 mile run of the game ball from West Point to Landover, MD.

I FROZE in around 1999 (?) in the soaking cold rain at Veteran’s stadium. Not a service member, only a spectator.

Go Army!


6 posted on 12/08/2011 7:47:52 AM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: chargers fan

7 posted on 12/08/2011 7:48:43 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: chargers fan

Here is an Army guy. We get our hopes up every year for the last several years and then get our butts kicked. I don’t know what Army has to do to get competitive with Navy again. It must have something to do with the recruitment of Cadet Vs. Midshipmen candidates. They also seem to have a little better coaching. Army will never compete again like they did back in the 40’s, but they need to get serious about competing with the other services.


8 posted on 12/08/2011 7:48:53 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: BlueLancer

You need to return your retirement checks!


9 posted on 12/08/2011 7:51:06 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: stylecouncilor; windcliff

Well, here we go again.

GO ARMY! BEAT NAVY!


10 posted on 12/08/2011 7:56:23 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I think Navy had a greatly coach in Johnson (now doing great things at Ga Tech) and he really set up Navy and from what I saw was a great recruiter (Ricky Dobbs, the star Navy quarterback who graduated last year, wanted to leave Navy for Ga Tech after Johnson went there) while Army had a coaching revolving door as they kept going through guys who wanted to force a pro offense on Army. I think Ellerson is making the right moves for Army in his three years (what Academy fan can argue against a over .500 season and Bowl win?) and losing so many seniors did hurt us. Navy hasn’t had a good year since losing Dobbs (only 4 wins after 8 years of Bowl games) so I think this is our chance. I’ll always be excited for the game every year.


11 posted on 12/08/2011 7:56:29 AM PST by chargers fan
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Also, the “new” Navy coach (Ken Niumatalolo) has been playing with Johnson recruits. I believe the last ones graduated last year or will this year.


12 posted on 12/08/2011 7:58:45 AM PST by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan

13 posted on 12/08/2011 8:26:19 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: chargers fan

I have always wanted to attend an Army-Navy game. Since the POTUS generally attends I was afraid it would take us six hours to get into the stadium.


14 posted on 12/08/2011 8:27:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: onedoug

The only football game I watch. GO ARMY! BEAT NAVY!!


15 posted on 12/08/2011 8:32:26 AM PST by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: chargers fan; BlueLancer; Old Retired Army Guy
think, think, think, what was it we cheered back in the day? oh yeah

NUKE NAVY!

SHOOT THE SEAMEN!

As for BlueLancer, I agree with Old Retired Army Guy, please return your retirement checks, or donate them to FR

16 posted on 12/08/2011 8:35:05 AM PST by OldCorps
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To: chargers fan

Oh yeah, Dobbs...
the one who wants to be the next O’bummer some day...
*shiver*


17 posted on 12/08/2011 9:01:27 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And six hours to get into the bathroom to throw up...

(Actually, the one Army/Navy game I did go to way-back-when, I did spend most of it in the bathroom, throwing up...
too much peppermint shnapps...ugh)

GO NAVY!


18 posted on 12/08/2011 9:04:53 AM PST by matginzac
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To: chargers fan

Here’s one for all you Navy lovers....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akt6ifvLmnc&feature=share


19 posted on 12/08/2011 9:11:15 AM PST by matginzac
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To: chargers fan

Having been run over by two different West Point fullbacks while playing touch football, all I can say is there’s some tough guys on both teams.


20 posted on 12/08/2011 9:32:06 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Old Retired Army Guy; OldCorps
Ah, but see, I view this as a school vs school contest ...

In much the same way as I cheer for the USNA when they play Notre Dame, Tulane, Central Michigan (even though I'm from Michigan), etc, etc, I have to go with the USNA over the WooPoos of Hades on the Hudson.

Now, when unit/organization teams play each other, I cheer for the Army ... like, if an Army team from Fort Hood played a Navy Team from Naval Air Station-Corpus Christi, then I'm all out for the Army.

So, even though I didn't complete my time at the old Squid School, I still enjoyed my time there and dearly love to support it, especially against the Black Kanigits.

21 posted on 12/08/2011 10:30:41 AM PST by BlueLancer (Secede?! Y'all better just be thankful we don't invade ...)
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To: chargers fan

Go Navy!


22 posted on 12/08/2011 12:12:48 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Hate to say it but I believe you have a shot this year.


23 posted on 12/08/2011 12:14:25 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The vacationer-in-chief won’t attend the game. I’d be very surprised if he gave a crap!


24 posted on 12/08/2011 12:16:42 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: JRios1968

Meh!.....Go Navy!


25 posted on 12/08/2011 12:49:22 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Go Navy!

As long as the CinC Trophy stays in its natural habitat of Colorado Springs.

26 posted on 12/08/2011 1:03:07 PM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Joe 6-pack
That 1946 program you posted must be a great collector's item. Did Army possibly win the national championship that year with Blanchard and Davis?

The artist drawing on the cover is an excellent work. I thought at first glance it might be by Norman Rockwell, but it seems like someone else did it.

27 posted on 12/08/2011 1:37:34 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Army won that year 21-18 :-)


28 posted on 12/08/2011 1:47:26 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: justiceseeker93

And yes, the Army won the National Championships in ‘44, ‘45, an ‘46.


29 posted on 12/08/2011 1:55:46 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: chargers fan
FWIW, Jeff Sagarin (at USA Today) puts the line as Navy 21, Army 14.

Also ... I looked over the upcoming schedules, and it's not got a free venue until 2018, but I wonder: since it was played in Chicago in 1926 (the first and namesake game for Soldier Field), and in Pasadena in 1983, I was wondering why there has been no offer to have it played in Texas?

I mean, how can you go wrong. Texas is chock a block with football fans, with patriots, and three NFL stadiums. But no matter where they play it, it's always a good piece of sporting and of tradition. Even if their records aren't exemplars, the young men on that field are.
30 posted on 12/08/2011 2:18:51 PM PST by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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31 posted on 12/08/2011 2:29:01 PM PST by magslinger (Who cares if they are"electable" if they are going to govern like Democrats? -noprogs)
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To: chargers fan
Well. now that Navy, for whatever reasons, has decided to join the Big East, their program will now implode. The Big East, will NEVER be a football conference, unless they start playing with a ROUND ball.

Personally, I have mixed feelings..my long ago time in the Corps leads me always to root for Navy, but having attended many a game at West Point...Michie Stadium is without a doubt the most beutiful venue for a football game in the country...gotta luv the Cadets.

32 posted on 12/08/2011 3:27:33 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: ken5050

As far as I know, neither Navy nor Air Farce has committed to the Big East.

GO NAVY BEAT ARMY


33 posted on 12/08/2011 4:51:08 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: New Jersey Realist

USA Today reported that Obama and Mr and Mrs Cretin (Biden) will attend the Army-Navy Game this year.

After all, they are running for re-election.

This will be my 9th consecutive game. I am not happy.

The crowd will be polite.

The media will report the politesse as approval.

Don’t believe it.

GO NAVY BEAT ARMY


34 posted on 12/08/2011 4:54:38 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

CNNSI.com has multiple reports that NAVY will join the Big East for football ONLY. You are correct, in that it hasn’t been formally announced. Army supposedly has decided NOT to join the BigEast, and this is what may be holding up the Navy announcement..


35 posted on 12/08/2011 5:00:00 PM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: ken5050

They tried to get Army into a Conference for whatever reason (Money?) a while back and that, in addition to forcing a pro offense on them, destroyed the team. From what I know Army enjoys being Independent at this point.


36 posted on 12/08/2011 8:16:22 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan

Sorry that those attending will have to endure the Obummers/Bite-mes. Let’s see how quickly Zero makes the Army/Navy game about himself. After all EVERYTHING is about Zero, isn’t it?

GO NAVY!


37 posted on 12/08/2011 8:29:47 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: paterfamilias

The crowd was very respectful and kind at the 08 game to Bush.


38 posted on 12/08/2011 8:31:30 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: paterfamilias

Last time I checked, the team that beat all y’all was the AF Falcons, beating Navy at its own house, and only one academy has already clinched the Commander in Chief trophy for the second year running. Go Air Force!! The rest are punks.


39 posted on 12/08/2011 8:34:50 PM PST by Wallop the Cat
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To: Category Four
Also ... I looked over the upcoming schedules, and it's not got a free venue until 2018, but I wonder: since it was played in Chicago in 1926 (the first and namesake game for Soldier Field), and in Pasadena in 1983, I was wondering why there has been no offer to have it played in Texas?

The sticking point is getting Cadets/Squids to the games. Attendence of the game is mandatory (hate to say it but the name of the game at the Academies is image--why else did they move the Corps of Cadets section from their traditional spot accross the field to where the cameras can now pick them up after CBS Sports started broadcasting home games?) and while some students take the "Boomerang" buses that take you to the game that morning and back that night, most Cadets/Squids take a pass for the weekend and drive themselves down to Philly/Baltimore/DC (the places the game usually revolves around) and back, thus relieving the Academies of much of the burden of moving the entire Corps. If you had the game in Texas or California again I couldn't see Cadets transporting themselves.

40 posted on 12/08/2011 8:40:04 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan
The sticking point is getting Cadets/Squids to the games.

Yeah, my understanding of it was that, in 1983, various businesses, and the city of Pasadena itself, offered to get everyone out there ... which, in this day and age, makes your point that much more salient from an economic angle.
41 posted on 12/08/2011 9:25:47 PM PST by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: chargers fan
Back in 95 I was stationed on the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) and we were undergoing an extended shipyard period. Volunteers were requested (I know, NAVY stands for Never Again Volunteer Yourself) to go down into the drydock for a video clip shoot to be played at the Army - Navy game. We all gathered there by the propellers and shouted, “Go Navy!!! Put the screws to Army!!!”

So I've been underneath the Mighty Ike as well at to the top of its mast.

FredHead, ET1, USN Retired

42 posted on 12/09/2011 3:44:14 AM PST by fredhead (I'm not sleeping, I'm checking my eyelids for cracks.)
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To: ken5050

What I have read is that Navy has contracts with CBS for the Army-Navy Game through 2014, and contracts for specific bowl games (if eligible) through 2013 and contracts to play Notre Dame thru 2026 - some or all of these contracts may keep them from joining the Big East until after the 2013 season.


43 posted on 12/09/2011 4:21:23 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: chargers fan

“The crowd was very respectful and kind at the 08 game to Bush.”

Yes, I was there.

The difference is that the crowed really liked and respected Bush.


44 posted on 12/09/2011 4:22:36 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: All

Good article about the game:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/lopresti/story/2011-12-06/army-navy-commentary/51748928/1


45 posted on 12/09/2011 4:39:31 AM PST by chargers fan
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To: paterfamilias

The only reason our idiot-in-chief is attending is because (for some strange reason) the game will be played in DC, not Philadelphia and Moochella has other things to do. I really detest this man.


46 posted on 12/09/2011 6:21:12 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist

“The only reason our idiot-in-chief is attending is because (for some strange reason) the game will be played in DC, not Philadelphia and Moochella has other things to do. I really detest this man.”

There is another reason: the military photo-ops. He is in full campaign mode, and needs to make it look like he cares about the military. He cares about the military only inasmuch as his own self-interest is moved forward.

Whether or not you approved of GW Bush, he had a deep respect and appreciation for the military, and they knew it.


47 posted on 12/09/2011 6:50:37 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Wallop the Cat

“The rest are punks.”

The response coming from West Point or Annapolis to this unfortunate comment would probably be :

Question:

What do West Point Cadets, Annapolis Midshipmen, and Air Force Academy Cadets all have in common?

Answer:

They all got into the US Air Force Academy.

GO NAVY BEAT ARMY!


48 posted on 12/09/2011 6:55:10 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

You are right on.


49 posted on 12/09/2011 8:23:16 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: paterfamilias
Air Force 35 Navy 34
50 posted on 12/09/2011 1:37:41 PM PST by Wallop the Cat
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