Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Barack Obama Would Lose All 12 Swing States Today, Poll Says
Sunshine State News ^ | 12/13/2011

Posted on 12/13/2011 7:08:23 AM PST by RockinRight

A survey of 12 swing states that Barack Obama carried in 2008 now finds the president losing to both Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich there.

USA Today-Gallup -- polling registered voters in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin -- found Obama trailing Romney 43-48, and Gingrich 45-48.

Because Obama is expected to hold the big states of California, New York and Illinois, he maintains a popular-vote advantage nationwide, where he leads Gingrich 50-44, and edges Romney 47-46.

But the Electoral College math would deliver the White House to Republicans if they can carry the swing states, as the USA Today-Gallup poll shows.

Even more heartening for the GOP is the poll's methodology. Surveys of "registered" tend to artificially inflate Democratic numbers. Scientific samplings of "likely voters" tend to produce more conservative, and accurate, outcomes.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; elections; gingrich; newt; obama; poll; romney; swingstates; teapartyrebellion
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-95 next last
Didn't see this posted yet. If Newt (with his supposed negatives) is leading Barry in PA...perhaps all this news of "Obama feels optimistic" is just BS.

Or maybe THIS poll is BS...who knows?

I also don't buy that Obama would win by 3 pts nationally yet win all 12 of those states, something doesn't add up. With likely turnout favoring the GOP, I'd expect a popular vote majority for the GOP candidate as well in such a scenario.

1 posted on 12/13/2011 7:08:39 AM PST by RockinRight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Let the cheating begin! Black panthers and dead dems all take your places please!


2 posted on 12/13/2011 7:12:28 AM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight
Barack Obama Would Lose All 12 Swing States Today, Poll Says

There is NO way this kenyan, communist, usurper should carry ANY of the 57 [sic] states!

FUBO GTFO! 404 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013

3 posted on 12/13/2011 7:15:40 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mich Patriot

If it looks like he’s going to lose, expect a scorched earth campaign by his supporters...
Rev 12:12


4 posted on 12/13/2011 7:16:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight
Key Line

Because Obama is expected to hold the big states of California, New York and Illinois, he maintains a popular-vote advantage nationwide

If there is a split with the popular vote for Obama and an electoral win for the GOP there will be a civil war. 100% guaranteed that the occupy crowd will not accept defeat. Obama will refuse to leave office and the occupiers will ensure that he is kept there.
5 posted on 12/13/2011 7:17:07 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Don’t be so sure O’Bummer would carry Illinois.

With the recent huge state tax increases and continued lib overspending, the incumbents will have a hard time holding the fort.


6 posted on 12/13/2011 7:17:50 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (We were born citizens. Now we are subjects. Currently on the path to become serfs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrB

I wonder if that’s what Obama is doing. He seems to be taking this hard-left populist turn (not the same as Palin type populism) that can’t possibly appeal to the middle...but could invigorate his base to the point that even if they lose, they will riot in the streets.


7 posted on 12/13/2011 7:20:01 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: GonzoGOP

Good thing the U.S. military is on our side! I think Obama would lose the media if refused a peaceful transition of power. Atleast, I hope so.


8 posted on 12/13/2011 7:21:52 AM PST by KansasGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Be on the lookout for ACORN members with clipboards walking through cemeteries. It’s voter registration time.


9 posted on 12/13/2011 7:22:20 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

This is the key to this article:

Even more heartening for the GOP is the poll’s methodology. Surveys of “registered” tend to artificially inflate Democratic numbers. Scientific samplings of “likely voters” tend to produce more conservative, and accurate, outcomes.


10 posted on 12/13/2011 7:23:13 AM PST by GOPRaleigh (Unexpected)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Proud2BeRight

this is O’s plan. Massive voter fraud, lots of it is of course caught in swing states and GOP candidate wins.

Then, the OWS/Acorn thugs will emerge and take the streets.
O knows he will lose, but he can make it ugly.


11 posted on 12/13/2011 7:25:14 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: KansasGirl
Good thing the U.S. military is on our side!

Don't be so sure. Note that every day we are hearing about senior officers being removed for creating a hostile workplace or not embracing gays in the military with sufficient enthusiasm. Obama is purging the military, or at least the officer corps. They may not be on his side, but they won't drive M1A2s guns blazing into crowds of protesters either. Obama doesn't have to seize office. He just has to occupy it and get the UN to declare him the recognized leader.
12 posted on 12/13/2011 7:27:22 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: GonzoGOP
Obama will refuse to leave office and the occupiers will ensure that he is kept there.

And, that's when there'll be an outright conflagration....we'll have to find a state besides SC this time to tetch it off, though!!!

13 posted on 12/13/2011 7:28:06 AM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: MrB
"If it looks like he’s going to lose, expect a scorched earth campaign by his supporters"

Let them come...this festering ass-pimple desperately needs poppin' anyhow.

14 posted on 12/13/2011 7:30:08 AM PST by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: GonzoGOP
Because Obama is expected to hold the big states of California, New York and Illinois, he maintains a popular-vote advantage nationwide

And these folks are busting ass to insure the popular vote will rule the day. Dangerous.

15 posted on 12/13/2011 7:32:18 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

And, of course, watch for more media-types and progressives giving tacit support for the 3rd party candidacy of Ron Paul or some other “middle of the roader” that will split the Republican party.


16 posted on 12/13/2011 7:32:18 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight
As voter mood now stands, this election will not be a choice between Newt and Obama, between Romney and Obama, between Perry and Obama, or between your favorite candidate (she's NOT running!) and Obama. Currently, this election will be pretty much an up or down referendum on Obama. The poll is essentially correct on both Mitt and Newt, based on current support; the outcome is not generated by pollster bias. Additionally, this is "registered voters", not "likely voters", so the actual GOP performance would be significantly better than projected.

What this leaves out is the political campaign. Barry will spend $1B to convince voters that he may be incompetent but [insert GOP nominee's name] is just as bad, and advertising dollars are effective. Our nominee (or the GOP leadership's nominee) will spend half as much, or less, trying to convince voters that "Bush's fault" is getting old, and that our economic mess is Obama's fault. If the election is seen as about character, Obama gains, since people don't want to admit he's a scum, to avoid having his supporters will call them racist. If the election is seen as about the economy, the GOP wins, since Obama said he could fix it in less than four years with shovel ready jobs, he spent $5T in a massive Stimulus that failed just as massively, and the economy is worse than it was.

17 posted on 12/13/2011 7:32:31 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

“Didn’t see this posted yet. If Newt (with his supposed negatives) is leading Barry in PA...perhaps all this news of “Obama feels optimistic” is just BS.”

No, that’s not what this poll is saying. Take the EV’s of the swings and split ‘em.


18 posted on 12/13/2011 7:38:44 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: GonzoGOP
100% guaranteed that the occupy crowd will not accept defeat.

Good thing for us, we still have The Second Amendment, despite the best efforts of Holder and the kenyan. I, for one, am in no mood to put up with any crap from "The Occupy Crowd" or any of Hussein's 0bamunists.

19 posted on 12/13/2011 7:39:10 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight
...he maintains a popular-vote advantage nationwide...

The result of the multi-generational infestation by the left of public schools and a statist media. Stupid people benefit the left.

20 posted on 12/13/2011 7:42:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenKenobi

Florida, REP, Iowa, REP, Nevada, REP, Virginia, REP, North Carolina, REP, New Hampshire, REP

Michigan, DEM, New Mexico, DEM, Wisconsin, DEM, Pennsylvania, DEM, Ohio, DEM. Colorado, DEM.

Bush - Ohio, - Colorado + Iowa.

REP - 249
DIM - 287

I’m not sure why these numbers are good ones. These are bad numbers.


21 posted on 12/13/2011 7:44:49 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: The Sons of Liberty
Good thing for us, we still have The Second Amendment, despite the best efforts of Holder and the kenyan. I, for one, am in no mood to put up with any crap from "The Occupy Crowd" or any of Hussein's 0bamunists.

On the other hand the 2nd amendment goes both ways. There was a post yesterday about how the progressives are buying guns in record numbers.
22 posted on 12/13/2011 7:46:31 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

A graphic illustration of what would happen if all the mentioned swing states swung. Not mentioned are Indiana and the congressional district which includes Omaha, Nebraska. I've included them in the map above since if the other 12 swingers swung, these more conservative constituencies would swing as well.

You could probably include New Mexico and at least one of the districts in Maine under such a scenario as well. Maybe even Minnesota and Oregon.

23 posted on 12/13/2011 7:49:10 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Several of those states now have R govs and state legislature majorities. They damned well better tighten up and/or enforce their voter registration and voting laws, or their dearly departed and miscellaneous strays will be voting.

What I observed in VA in ‘08 was appalling. OFA troops went to VA colleges and registered students from New York, New Jersey, New England to vote here in violation of VA law. I suspect the same thing happened in NC. Their votes weren’t needed at home, but could sure help ‘swing’ VA in his direction. And they did. Then-gov Kaine was just fine with that. His reward was chairmanship of the DNC. Isn’t life grand?


24 posted on 12/13/2011 7:49:36 AM PST by EDINVA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Only against “Generic Republican.”
Put a name in there (like Gingrich or Romney) and I bet the picture changes - substantially!

This fight is uphill all the way.


25 posted on 12/13/2011 7:50:39 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Do these fugures include the massive Voter Fraud that Holder will justify in his speech today?


26 posted on 12/13/2011 8:13:11 AM PST by montag813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Little Ray

Read it again - the polls were specific to Newt and Mitt.


27 posted on 12/13/2011 8:17:58 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: EDINVA

Fraud needs to be fought tooth and nail...


28 posted on 12/13/2011 8:29:37 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

WooooHOOO! That IS good news!

Its still uphill all the way, though.


29 posted on 12/13/2011 8:40:35 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman

As it should be. Red is red and blue is blue. I’m really tired of these pinkos defining us. Too bad I live in one of the red “red’ states.


30 posted on 12/13/2011 8:45:01 AM PST by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: GonzoGOP
Obama is purging the military, or at least the officer corps.

The NCO corps is being downsized, too. The ostensible reason is to cut costs by trimming manpower. But the net effect will be the same... junior to mid-level NCO's are out.

31 posted on 12/13/2011 9:08:33 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: MrB

When faced with internal polling showing a humiliating defeat to the GOP candidate I have said and still say that Barry will bow out. I seriously doubt he will even end up as the Democratic candidate for 2012.


32 posted on 12/13/2011 9:09:02 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Georgia Girl 2

Someone needs to tell him that the country doesn’t deserve him, and that he’s destined for something bigger.


33 posted on 12/13/2011 9:13:28 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: MrB

Yes. As far as I know Barry is eligible to run for President in Kenya. I’d be glad to make a campaign donation. LOL!!


34 posted on 12/13/2011 9:51:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Cut the cities off and watch ‘em burn. Nothing in, nothing out.


35 posted on 12/13/2011 5:25:23 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: KansasGirl

“Good thing the U.S. military is on our side!”

I hope you are correct.


36 posted on 12/13/2011 5:26:25 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Not much point in calling them “swing States”.


37 posted on 12/13/2011 5:40:03 PM PST by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KansasGirl

Obama has been working like crazy to get the military on his side. He and his family pay plenty of attention to them.


38 posted on 12/13/2011 5:41:57 PM PST by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

Bobo loses both the popular and electoral vote in 2012.


39 posted on 12/13/2011 5:45:41 PM PST by StAnDeliver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman
Wow. I can't go quite as far as that last map, but definitely the Upper Rust Belt going solid GOP (minus Minn.) will be the Shocker of 2012. I have it 313-225 at the moment...
40 posted on 12/13/2011 5:52:32 PM PST by StAnDeliver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman

Are the colors backwards?


41 posted on 12/13/2011 6:02:43 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: RockinRight

I predict that Obama loses 46 states.


42 posted on 12/13/2011 6:03:41 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenKenobi

People are misreading this, you are right Ben.

Unless the margins are microscopic. the electoral vote will always follow the popular vote. If you are behind more than 2% in the popular vote, the electoral college is a wash.

If the election were held today, Obama would probably edge out Newt or Romney much like Bush edged Kerry.

but thank God this is one poll and this is going to be a very fluid election. long ways to go.


43 posted on 12/13/2011 6:04:11 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: heiss
Then, the OWS/Acorn thugs will emerge and take the streets. O knows he will lose, but he can make it ugly.

Good. I, for one, would enjoy some good old fashioned hippie-punching.
44 posted on 12/13/2011 6:08:17 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: The Sons of Liberty

Obama’s strategy from now until next November is to trash our candidate and try to convince everyone that he’s saner than our candidate. It could work, but only if the “stupid party” screws up.


45 posted on 12/13/2011 6:26:17 PM PST by yup2394871293
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: yup2394871293

be careful what you wish for- this is liable to make the Left pull the plug on the sitting Pres_ent (notice no id) and have Hillary be the nominee.


46 posted on 12/13/2011 6:31:48 PM PST by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: ElkGroveDan

Oh that would be a dream come true.


47 posted on 12/13/2011 6:34:17 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Cheerio

Are the colors backwards?


My question, too. I think they are.


48 posted on 12/13/2011 6:34:30 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: imjimbo
Somehow I don't think that's in the cards. It makes Democrats look really weak if they fail to beat down talk about Hillary. Seems to me that she has to keep a low profile unless she resigns from her cabinet position, and if that happened, then the writing would be on the wall.

Hey, at what point in his reelection campaign did Johnston drop out? I'd say the GOP's chances of finding the ideal candidate between now and Nov are about as good as Hillary entering into the race and winning instead of just making things worse for the Democrats.
49 posted on 12/13/2011 6:41:53 PM PST by yup2394871293
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Proud2BeRight

LOL


50 posted on 12/13/2011 6:45:52 PM PST by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-95 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson