Skip to comments.Obama to approve indefinite detention and torture of Americans
Posted on 12/15/2011 6:23:08 AM PST by kronos77
Less than a month after he threatened to veto terrifying legislation that would cease constitutional rights as we know it, Obama has revoked his warning and plans to authorize a bill allowing indefinite detention and torture of Americans.
After passing in the House of Representatives earlier this year, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 went before the US Senate last week, where it was met with overwhelming approval. In the days before, the Obama administration issued a policy statement on November 17 saying explicitly that the president would veto the bill, as it would challenge the presidents critical authorities to collect intelligence incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation.
Opposition from the White House seemed all but rampant until RT revealed earlier this week that Senator Carl Levin told lawmakers that the legislation was altered because the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.
On Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said that those last minute changes yielded legislation that would not challenge the presidents ability to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the American people, and therefore the presidents senior advisers will not recommend a veto.
Originally the White House said that the administration objected to matters in the bill that applied to detainees. Under the act, Americans could be arrested and held indefinitely in military-run prisons and tortured without charges ever being brought forth, essentially making Guantanamo Bay a threat for every American citizen.
Under the legislation, a literal police state will be installed over the United States. Republican Congressman Ron Paul said earlier this week that this should be the biggest news going right now, as the legislation would allow for literally legalizing martial law.
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he is only signing it so he can go on to Hawaii
You’re using Russia Today as an unbiased news source about the Americas? Russia Today is Radio Moscow with pictures.
Not surprising that he broke his promise. Also not surprising that some Republicans went along with this. It’s still not too late to save this country though, if we can get a conservative in the White House and boot out some of the CINOs in Congress.
guess they are now trying to use those concentration camps they’ve been speaking of in all the conspiracy theories, and I guess, maybe they are not conspiracy theories then. The conspiracy theory is our federal state and local government.
What stops him from detaining Gingrich, Romney, and Palin? They are a threat to his presidency, and thus(in his mind), a threat to America.
This is not a joke. It’s pretty serious and scary.
“What stops him from detaining Gingrich, Romney, and Palin? They are a threat to his presidency, and thus(in his mind), a threat to America.”
He hasn’t signed the bill yet. Once he signs it, all bets are off....red
This legislation is aimed at all of us, not just Islamists of one sort or another. This will be used as a political tool just like the gulags of the “former” Soviet Union.
on drudge.com as well.
Without a doubt serious. So gitmo detainees are treated better than citizens.. Why isn’t everyone outraged?
The problem, as always with this regime, is they lie about everything,
So who knows what the truth is?
I have a neighbor who is quite the “conspiracy” believer. For years now, he has been telling me that the government will pass some law and there will be “indoctrination” camps of sorts. I never gave his theory a second thought. I am now.
This story has been on other sides besides RT, please don’t tell me your one of those it can’t happen here people are you?
We have a small number of FReepers who suck this “stuff” (Russian state-owned media) up. Later, you see them complaining about MSNBC.
Where’s the bloodcurdling screams of agony from the ACLU? Amnesty International?
Cue the crickets.
Well I’m sure Newt doesn’t have a problem with this, since he stated Presidents can ignore the Constitution in time of “war”
Ofcourse Zero thinks he is at war with the American People.
Dachau started as a hard-core criminals detaining facility.
Trouble was later re-defining definition of “Criminals”.
At first, murderers, rapists, pedophiles were detained at Dachau. Than they said that being against regime was crime for itself, than it became crime to not be a supporter of regime, and than just any people that regime disliked became “criminals”...
I just wonder what the leftists would have said if Bush had tried to do this....
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