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Paterno 'knew' about child abuse
Yahoo ^ | 12/16/11

Posted on 12/16/2011 9:00:22 PM PST by Libloather

Paterno 'knew' about child abuse
AFP – 3 hrs ago

Former Penn State University American football coach Joe Paterno knew his assistant Jerry Sandusky had been seen molesting a child, grand jury testimony said on Friday.

Paterno's testimony was read in court during a preliminary hearing for two senior university officials accused of lying to a grand jury about what they were told of an incident of alleged child sex abuse by Sandusky.

At the conclusion of the hearing, Judge William C. Wenner ruled that prosecutors have enough evidence to send their cases against Penn State team officials Tim Curley and Gary Schultz to a trial.

The two are facing charges they lied about and failed to report the alleged sexual assault. Both had testified before an earlier grand jury that they did not think a crime had been committed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuse; child; childabuse; crime; football; homosexualagenda; liberalism; liberals; pa; paterno; pennstate; sandusky; sexualabuse
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To: Persevero; fatima

Okay, now I get it. He might have been ready to blow the whistle and that’s why he disappeared. WOW..
And his damaged hard drive and separate lap top were found in the nearby river.
His body hasn’t been recovered.


21 posted on 12/16/2011 9:34:23 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("My core is not up for grabs". El Rushbo 12/06/11)
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To: dfwgator

app;es to oranges


22 posted on 12/16/2011 9:34:46 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: mainevet
Follow the money to discover the evil it has spawned. It is time to shutdown ALL athletic programs at Penn State for ten years, disband the teams, fire the coaches, and get back to the basics of EDUCATING people. The jockstraps can play for other schools.

Very few people can play well enough to get picked by the pros. If you do, the uncertainty of a playing career isn't inspiring. You'd better have life skills other than playing a kid's game extremely well. However, all the people who love to watch the jockstraps play games will scream and howl like stuck pigs if Penn's precious athletics are threatened.

23 posted on 12/16/2011 9:35:27 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Enchante

What’s wrong with these people?

The same thing that has been wrong with people throughout the entire history of humanity.

All it takes for evil to prosper, is that good men do nothing.


24 posted on 12/16/2011 9:35:59 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Persevero
Or did he disappear because he WAS going to do something about it?

IF there is any truth to the allegation that Sandusky was pimping out his groomed boys to "wealthy donors"; and those folks were in danger of being "outed" through an investigation you're only one or two connections away from the wealthy crime syndicates who are very skilled in making people disappear.

25 posted on 12/16/2011 9:36:11 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: Libloather
Once again, the headline is a lie, which I suppose AFB nuances with the little ' marks around the word "knew".

McQueary said he did not provide explicit details of the March 2002 incident to Paterno but did so about 10 days later when contacted by Curley, the university's athletic director, and Schultz, the head of the school's police.

So, McQueary did not provide details to Paterno - - when he went to see him the next day - - but did provide deatils to the AD and the head of the school's police after those two finally contacted him 10 days later.

Good grief. I will cut the old man a little slack - - after all, Sandusky no longer worked for Paterno at the time, and Paterno did report his concerns to the AD and head of campus police - - but those other three need to do hard prison time.

26 posted on 12/16/2011 9:40:24 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: fabian

throw in Lust and Acedia too.


27 posted on 12/16/2011 9:44:19 PM PST by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: Mountain Mary

That story was in the Daily Mail about two days after the Sandusky story broke...I can’t believe it has taken this long to be brought up...it stinks.

I did not see the Dateline piece, but I think it is important information.


28 posted on 12/16/2011 9:49:46 PM PST by sipwine (Eat well, stay well....)
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To: Enchante

I’m simply struggling to understand how it was even *possible* for such moral blindness to exist.


This won’t make it easier to understand, but many people don’t think it really harms boys. They think boys are strong and can deal with it. They think boys are horney and want to be molested by adults. They think it is just men and boys “horsing around”, as Sandusky put it. They have no concept of how it harms a boys sexual development, sense of trust, self respect and respect for others and their very idenity. They don’t think boys are vulnerable and innocent. They are ignorant of child development.

These same people understand how damaging sexual molestation is to girls. But boys are not really human with feelings, I guess, to some people. A lot of people view men like this, too.


29 posted on 12/16/2011 9:50:02 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Libloather
Of course he knew and this is beyond disgusting.

It's a cover-up of abhorrent criminal activity.

30 posted on 12/16/2011 9:52:34 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: CW_Conservative
Gloria Allred is involved, that should tell you something.

Strike that, confused Syracuse with Penn State on Allred.

32 posted on 12/16/2011 10:03:32 PM PST by CW_Conservative
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To: CW_Conservative
"These kids weren't forced to be with Sandusky, he worked for a charity for low lifes. They chose to hang out with him. You really think these juvenille delinquents wouldn't complain if they were being mistreated?"

I find this part of your comments reprehensible. 10 year old children are NOT "low lifes" because they come from poor or broken homes.

They did not choose or control that. There are many reasons a child may not report or even fully understand sexual abuse -- talk about blaming the victim. If dealing with an older age group there is certainly more room for discussing individual choices and responsibility. But 10 year olds are highly dependent upon the adults around them, for food and shelter, and also for guidance about moral and immoral distinctions, etc. If a "revered" coach and mentor like Sandusky was grooming these kids as reported, they *might* (would) have a difficult time knowing how to react, how to get out of a situation, especially if they lacked a solid home life.
33 posted on 12/16/2011 10:06:22 PM PST by Enchante
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To: Libloather

The more that people with behavioral disorders are encouraged and “celebrated” in our society, the more of these kinds of scandals we are going to see. The question is, how long are Americans going to sit still for the sewage being pumped into our culture?


34 posted on 12/16/2011 10:07:14 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Concerns?

Paterno was told a child was molested!

That is a police matter, not something to be pushed up to the AD.

35 posted on 12/16/2011 10:10:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: CW_Conservative
These were CHILDREN, they had no 'choice'

Amazing on a Conservative site you would attempt to justify those acts!

36 posted on 12/16/2011 10:12:27 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Mountain Mary
Seems to me that if there were any real men in the Penn State athletic department, Dateline would be doing a story over the disappearance of Jerry Sandusky. Sandusky would not have lasted one day in my neighborhood if people knew what he was doing.
37 posted on 12/16/2011 10:14:16 PM PST by Jay Redhawk
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To: Libloather; Scoutmaster; All
From the article: When he told Paterno of what he saw, the iconic US college football coach slumped deep into his chair, McQueary said. "He said, 'I'm sorry you had to see that,"' McQueary said.

What? Paterno wasn't "sorry" the kid was being sexually abused; only that the witnessing of it extended further than desired?

What a moral moron and a moral midget!!!

From the article: According to Paterno's grand jury testimony McQueary reported to him that Sandusky was doing something with a "sexual nature" to the boy. Paterno told McQueary he had "done the right thing" by telling him. McQueary said the coach appeared shocked and saddened and said he would talk to others about what McQueary had told him. "I didn't push Mike... because he was very upset," Paterno said. "I knew Mike was upset and I knew some kind of inappropriate action was being taken by Jerry Sandusky with a youngster."

Yup. Paterno knew.

There's cancer of the body; there's also cancer of the soul.

38 posted on 12/16/2011 10:14:58 PM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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To: Twink

Heyyyyy I will write you a message but I thought you might find this thread of interest, however sadly.

I wrote this comment #13 before I’d seen your comments on another thread, then was looking for prior FR threads on the Sandusky matter.... saw that your (much more developed) comments on the the “homosexual agenda” on campuses and in our culture more broadly was pretty much what I was starting to think about here.

i.e., I agree with you that this could have happened (does happen) in many many different places and settings, that there has been a huge breakdown in standards due to the onslaught of (what I called) a “gay mafia” on campuses etc. with what you call the “homosexual agenda.”

While acknowledging other issues about Penn State’s former Pres. Spanier and the football program etc., I agree with you that much needs to be understood in terms of large cultural and moral changes which have influenced many people toward (1) fear of speaking out, and (2) tolerance of perversity.


39 posted on 12/16/2011 10:15:38 PM PST by Enchante
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To: Lancey Howard
Hope the parents successfully sue dirt-bag Paterno. He needs to live out his remaining days in shame and poverty...preferably under a bridge in soiled clothes.
40 posted on 12/16/2011 10:15:45 PM PST by Dagnabitt
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