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Hitchens Was Not Great
Townhall.com ^ | December 17, 2011 | John Ransom

Posted on 12/17/2011 5:32:02 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Notary Sojac

I find it interesting on many of these recent hitchens posts that people like you extoll hitchens staunch disbelief and his unwavering posture.

However when christians do the exact same thing it is condemend as bigotry and intolerance.


41 posted on 12/17/2011 8:04:30 AM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the marxh!)
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To: Dixie Yooper

I think you meant Ayn Rand (wonder what she, Hitchens and Mother Theresa are talking about today?)


42 posted on 12/17/2011 8:07:39 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Fightin Whitey
No, I see the world as divided into believers and unbelievers. I count Christians along with Jews, Buddhists, Shintoists, Wiccans, and so on in the former category.

I disbelieve in a hundred concepts of God while you disbelieve in ninety-nine, so we are closer than you might think.

43 posted on 12/17/2011 8:10:00 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Kaslin

Hitchens was a man of intellect who many say took a few wrong roads in life. I found him eminently readable and thought provoking whether I believed in what he was saying or bot.

I pray the he personally found whatever peace he was seeking.


44 posted on 12/17/2011 8:10:56 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: Vaquero
Soooo, John Ransom was too cowardly to write about Hitchens when he was alive, well and able to defend himself.

Yes. Nothing brings out the Kick 'Em When They're Dead contingent of Christianity like an atheist's funeral.

45 posted on 12/17/2011 8:12:24 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I think you meant Ayn Rand (wonder what she, Hitchens and Mother Theresa are talking about today?)

Probably the same things they were talking about in 1850.

46 posted on 12/17/2011 8:16:38 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Kaslin

Hitchens may not have been “great”... but, he was a MUCH better writer than this guy!

And... I bet a LOT MORE fun to hang out with! :-)


47 posted on 12/17/2011 8:20:35 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Vaquero

Always enjoyed reading Hitchens.

And I always enjoy reading Ransom.

Hitchens was right about a lot of stuff, and when he was right, he was always right with style.

Ransom is right on this one.


48 posted on 12/17/2011 8:26:31 AM PST by Stosh
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin.

AIA Remembers Christopher Hitchens
Accuracy in Academia | July 2, 2004 | Sean Grindlay
Posted on 12/16/2011 9:28:58 AM PST by Academiadotorg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2821262/posts


49 posted on 12/17/2011 9:02:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Kaslin

The writer uses the phrase “on accident”, how old is he, about 4?


50 posted on 12/17/2011 9:26:52 AM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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To: Kaslin

On the other hand, the universe is astronomically large, so there is a finite probability that an astronomically rare event would occur by accident.

Of course when you start with strong evidence that X is here and now, and then try to reason by the method of dividing infinity by infinity, whether or not X should exist, what you are doing is pretty obviously sophistry. Asking the question whether in the vastness of the universe whether Shakespeare’s plays should exist is rather the long way around Robin Hood’s barn.


51 posted on 12/17/2011 9:31:25 AM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: buck61

So did you drive to church on Pneuma-tic tires?


52 posted on 12/17/2011 9:36:39 AM PST by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Probably the same things they were talking about in 1850.

So they're talking about "The Scarlett Letter"? I guess it was quite the topic of conversation that year. :-)

53 posted on 12/17/2011 9:48:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Kaslin
Another article on Hitchens describes his last days being read Larkin's "The Whitsun Weddings," and he and his friend discuss its ultimate meaning, specifically the last stanza. In his memory, I offer "Aubade." I suspect Hitchens was much influenced by Larkin, and that might be telling.

Philip Larkin - Aubade

I work all day, and get half-drunk at night. Waking at four to soundless dark, I stare. In time the curtain-edges will grow light. Till then I see what's really always there: Unresting death, a whole day nearer now, Making all thought impossible but how And where and when I shall myself die. Arid interrogation: yet the dread Of dying, and being dead, Flashes afresh to hold and horrify.

The mind blanks at the glare. Not in remorse -- The good not done, the love not given, time Torn off unused -- nor wretchedly because An only life can take so long to climb Clear of its wrong beginnings, and may never; But at the total emptiness for ever, The sure extinction that we travel to And shall be lost in always. Not to be here, Not to be anywhere, And soon; nothing more terrible, nothing more true.

This is a special way of being afraid No trick dispels. Religion used to try, That vast moth-eaten musical brocade Created to pretend we never die, And specious stuff that says No rational being Can fear a thing it will not feel, not seeing That this is what we fear -- no sight, no sound, No touch or taste or smell, nothing to think with, Nothing to love or link with, The anaesthetic from which none come round.

And so it stays just on the edge of vision, A small unfocused blur, a standing chill That slows each impulse down to indecision. Most things may never happen: this one will, And realisation of it rages out In furnace-fear when we are caught without People or drink. Courage is no good: It means not scaring others. Being brave Lets no one off the grave. Death is no different whined at than withstood.

Slowly light strengthens, and the room takes shape. It stands plain as a wardrobe, what we know, Have always known, know that we can't escape, Yet can't accept. One side will have to go. Meanwhile telephones crouch, getting ready to ring In locked-up offices, and all the uncaring Intricate rented world begins to rouse. The sky is white as clay, with no sun. Work has to be done. Postmen like doctors go from house to house.

54 posted on 12/17/2011 9:54:18 AM PST by Dysart
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

you spend the rest of eternity eating grilled hamburgers from frozen patties, Sam’s Club potato salad, cole slaw and potato chips with a never-ending supply of Bud Lite,

yet some people would call that hell.

As Einstein said, “It’s all relative”.
That was before the mafia killed him cause he knew
too much.


55 posted on 12/17/2011 9:59:32 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: crghill
Atheism, Baha’i and Judaism all leave you in the same place...without explanation for universal, invariant, abstract entities (which are necessary for reason) and without explanation for unity and diversity in existence.

Since God is the necessary precondition for all logic, reasoning and morality, that incoherence is certainly inherent in the first two, but I can't see why Judaism would be included. The Transcendent God of the Hebrew Scriptures is the same Transcendent God of the N.T.

I recently listened to the Greg Bahnsen vs. Gordon Stein debate in which Bahnsen gave the clearest, most forceful and most brilliant presentation of the argument that I have ever seen or heard.

Cordially,

56 posted on 12/17/2011 10:04:10 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: tet68
Yet some people would call that hell.

Yes, I know one of them!

Anyway, the point I was trying to get at is that most people have a very naive and materialistic concept of what comes after the body's death. I'm more in tune myself with T.S. Eliot's famous lines:

And what the dead had no speech for, when living,
They can tell you, being dead: the communication
Of the dead is tongued with fire,
beyond the language of the living.

57 posted on 12/17/2011 10:10:27 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Diamond

Judaism is deficient because it denies a Trinitarian God. The rejection of Christ by the Jews has left their religion with a biune god that is illogical. While I appreciate our Jewish forefathers, modern day Judaism is far removed from old testament belief. Rejecting Christ has consequences even philosophically.


58 posted on 12/17/2011 10:11:50 AM PST by crghill (Silly Mormons, God is triune.)
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To: crghill
The rejection of Christ by the Jews has left their religion with a biune god that is illogical.

Interesting statement. "Illogical" how?

59 posted on 12/17/2011 10:16:53 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Notary Sojac

>>>No, I see the world as divided into believers and unbelievers.<<<

You and Christ both.

Congratulations.


60 posted on 12/17/2011 10:22:51 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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