Posted on 12/19/2011 1:34:47 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
This is the season of the year when Salvation Army volunteers are on the streets and outside stores ringing their bells to encourage donors to fill their red kettles with money for the poor. The longtime Christian organization provides food, shelter, elderly services, disaster relief, prisoner rehabilitation and many other forms of aid.
But it also has adopted a position statement that is a step toward abortion, and pro-life leaders are expressing alarm at what they see developing.
In its statement on abortion, the Salvation Army says: "A number of biblical and theological principles underpin The Salvation Army's position on abortion. …
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
WorldNutDaily stirring up trouble for the sake of sensationalism...
“Foetal”? Is there a Salvation Army of the British Isles, separate from the SA here in the States? I can’t imagine any North American using that spelling in a statement, not even a Canadian.
This is the link to the Salvation Army’s statement on abortion. It is long a detailed.
http://www.salvationist.org/extranet_main.nsf/vw_sublinks/8A04FA3170AA86AB8025774500731612?openDocument
http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2009/11/newly_identifie.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N26x3bbp_ZI
It’s not just World Net Daily. It’s pretty well documented on the internation SA website & their ties to Planned Parenthood.
I concur with Alveda King:
Alveda King, director of African American Outreach at Priests for Life, expressed similar suspicion.
“Good organizations become ‘infiltrated’ by forces that promote abortion, the breakdown of marriage, sexual immorality, etc. They come as wolves in sheep’s clothing and appear to be harmless and even helpful. Then they begin to reveal their true or basically untrue colors. This is sadly maybe what is happening to the Salvation Army. Not for sure, but maybe.”
Read more: Salvation Army marching toward abortion support? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=378413#ixzz1h1EdgKhG
The SA started over there.
I hope you are right about people just stirring up trouble. I have extreme respect for the Salvation Army for many reasons.
But I have to say that no religious conviction is required to oppose abortion, although all good people should oppose it.
It is mere science. Abortion kills a human being.
As I said to a friend of mine years ago if the Pope (or the Salvation Army, or any body else) came out tomorrow and said abortion is OK, I would still think it was wrong. And it would still BE wrong.
It’s their international social justice commision & I believe the president does speak the Queen’s English, so foetal would be his proper spelling.
Yes I know. I read it last week. This is the part that I find unacceptable:
“The Salvation Army recognizes tragic and perplexing circumstances that require difficult decisions regarding a pregnancy. Decisions should be made only after prayerful and thoughtful consideration, acknowledging the tremendous pressures that occur during an unexpected pregnancy. There is a responsibility on all involved to give the parents of the unborn child, particularly the woman, appropriate pastoral, medical and other counsel. The Salvation Army believes that termination can occur only when
Carrying the pregnancy further seriously threatens the life of the mother; or
Reliable diagnostic procedures have identified a foetal abnormality considered incompatible with survival for more than a very brief post natal period.
In addition, rape and incest are brutal acts of dominance violating women physically and emotionally. This situation represents a special case for the consideration of termination as the violation may be compounded by the continuation of the pregnancy.”
So basically, the SA is pro-choice. They have sugar-coated it a bit, but that’s the bottom line.
Me too. I find it hard to believe, including their recent stance against homosexualism.
These two issues I will always stand strongly against,regardless of who comes out and supports it.
If you have doubts, I’d encourage you to examine the links provided & discern for yourself.
I won’t be supporting them, though
Specifically, it says the Salvation Army "believes that termination [abortion] can occur only when carrying the pregnancy further seriously threatens the life of the mother; or reliable diagnostic procedures have identified a foetal abnormality considered incompatible with survival for more than a very brief post natal period."
Certainly doesn't sound like a blanket acceptance of abortion as you would lead us to believe.......
And as the next poster aptly posted, WND again stirring up crap........
I'm still waiting for the government to round me up, throw me into one of those unmarked white vans and take me to one of those hidden internment camps that Michael Rivero and WND warned us all about 20 years ago.........
FWIW, that was way before your time kid............
Thanks for the confirmation. No more money for the Salvation Army.
The phrase saying that abortion is OK if the baby “threatens the health of the mother” is precisely the phrase that NARAL and Planned Parenthood came up with when they first pushed abortion on demand on an unsuspecting populace. It turns out that that includes the mother’s “mental health.” So, if the prospect of having a baby might make her feel bad, go ahead and abort it.
NARAL is a bit more open about it now, but I’m afraid that the Salvation Army is now on the same page with them.
So you’re ok with abortion? Cuz that’s basically the argument that you’re making..
I’d suggest you read a bit more closely. The SA also allows for the rape/incest exception.
I understand WND can sensationalize, however this is supported by SA’s on position statement.
They ran out of black helicopters, fleets of white unmarked vans and internment camps.......
I saw SA bell-ringers outside Macy’s in San Franciscos’ Union Square. I don’t recall seeing them there before, although I might be wrong. A Pro-choice stance might have had something to do with this.
I should have been more specific. Does the Salvation Army which operates in the United States adhere to rules and stand by statements issued from sources outside the US? Are funds raised in the US comingled with funds from the other nations’ SA organizations? I’d hate to have to write off SA, but bloodied money can’t be laundered.
“I saw SA bell-ringers outside Macy’s in San Franciscos’ Union Square. I don’t recall seeing them there before, although I might be wrong. “
They have been there for decades, at least.
This is what we know:
The position statement of the SA as linked above
and
The links above that indicate the SA here in America gives to PP. There are some that have even found that SA shares offices in some locales with PP. Check the links I posted above.
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