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Men who openly carried guns at Culver's accept settlement(WI)
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | 20 December, 2011 | ED TRELEVEN

Posted on 12/20/2011 5:23:13 PM PST by marktwain

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To: Scotsman will be Free

“The penalty was paltry and the taxpayers paid, not the ignoramuses who broke the law”

Just curious who you were calling ignoramuses because the citizens in question were legally carrying the firearms and were not the cause of the disturbance.


21 posted on 12/21/2011 5:25:03 AM PST by DonkeyBonker
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Read the rest of the post. I’m sure you’ll figure it out.


22 posted on 12/21/2011 7:11:06 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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The penalty was paltry and the taxpayers paid, not the ignoramuses who broke the law.

Yep. But if it happens again, the state racketeering law kicks in, and both the City and its PD officers and supervisors can be declared an organized crime group:

946.82  Definitions. In ss. 946.80 to 946.88:

(1) "Commission of a crime" means being concerned in the commission of a crime under s. 939.05.

946.82(2) (2) "Enterprise" means any sole proprietorship, partnership, limited liability company, corporation, business trust, union organized under the laws of this state or other legal entity or any union not organized under the laws of this state, association or group of individuals associated in fact although not a legal entity. "Enterprise" includes illicit and licit enterprises and governmental and other entities.

(3) "Pattern of racketeering activity" means engaging in at least 3 incidents of racketeering activity that have the same or similar intents, results, accomplices, victims or methods of commission or otherwise are interrelated by distinguishing characteristics, provided at least one of the incidents occurred after April 27, 1982 and that the last of the incidents occurred within 7 years after the first incident of racketeering activity. Acts occurring at the same time and place which may form the basis for crimes punishable under more than one statutory provision may count for only one incident of racketeering activity.

(4) "Racketeering activity" means any activity specified in 18 USC 1961 (1) in effect as of April 27, 1982, or the attempt, conspiracy to commit, or commission of any of the felonies specified in: chs. 945 and 961, subch. V of ch. 551, and ss. 49.49, 134.05, 139.44 (1), 180.0129, 181.0129, 185.825, 201.09 (2), 215.12, 221.0625, 221.0636, 221.0637, 221.1004, 553.41 (3) and (4), 553.52 (2), 940.01, 940.19 (4) to (6), 940.20, 940.201, 940.203, 940.21, 940.30, 940.302 (2), 940.305, 940.31, 941.20 (2) and (3), 941.26, 941.28, 941.298, 941.31, 941.32, 942.09, 943.01 (2), (2d), or (2g), 943.011, 943.012, 943.013, 943.02, 943.03, 943.04, 943.05, 943.06, 943.10, 943.20 (3) (bf) to (e), 943.201, 943.203, 943.23 (1g), (2) and (3), 943.24 (2), 943.27, 943.28, 943.30, 943.32, 943.34 (1) (bf), (bm), and (c), 943.38, 943.39, 943.40, 943.41 (8) (b) and (c), 943.50 (4) (bf), (bm), and (c), 943.60, 943.70, 943.76, 943.81, 943.82, 943.83, 943.84, 943.85, 943.86, 943.87, 943.88, 943.89, 943.90, 944.21 (5) (c) and (e), 944.32, 944.33 (2), 944.34, 945.03 (1m), 945.04 (1m), 945.05 (1), 945.08, 946.10, 946.11, 946.12, 946.13, 946.31, 946.32 (1), 946.48, 946.49, 946.61, 946.64, 946.65, 946.72, 946.76, 946.79, 947.015, 948.05, 948.051, 948.08, 948.12, and 948.30.

History: 1981 c. 280; 1983 a. 438; 1985 a. 104; 1985 a. 236 s. 15; 1987 a. 266 s. 5; 1987 a. 332, 348, 349, 403; 1989 a. 121, 303; 1991 a. 32, 39, 189; 1993 a. 50, 92, 94, 112, 280, 441, 491; 1995 a. 133, 249, 336, 448; 1997 a. 35, 79, 101, 140, 143, 252; 1999 a. 9, 150; 2001 a. 16, 105, 109; 2003 a. 36, 321; 2005 a. 212; 2007 a. 116, 196; 2009 a. 180.

The definition of "pattern of racketeering" is not unconstitutionally vague. The definition of "enterprise" is discussed. State v. O'Connell, 179 Wis. 2d 598, 508 N.W.2d 23 (Ct. App. 1993).

Repeated use of illegally copied computer software did not constitute a pattern of racketeering. Management Computer Services v. Hawkins, 196 Wis. 2d 578, 539 N.W.2d 111 (Ct. App. 1995), 93-0140.

WOCCA does not require proof of intent or knowledge beyond that required for the underlying predicate offense. State v. Mueller, 201 Wis. 2d 121, 549 N.W.2d 455 (Ct. App. 1996), 93-3227.

The analysis for a "pattern of racketeering activity" under WOCCA is the same as under RICO. Brunswick Corp. v. E.A. Doyle Mfg. Co. 770 F. Supp. 1351 (1991).946.84  Penalties.

(1) Any person convicted of engaging in racketeering activity in violation of s. 946.83 is guilty of a Class E felony.

WOCA, 946.80 et seq

23 posted on 12/21/2011 1:34:21 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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I think that is a stretch. Ain’t gonna happen.


24 posted on 12/21/2011 2:00:52 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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I think that is a stretch. Ain’t gonna happen.

Indeed. Criminal prosecutions are far more commonplace. But if they do not occur, any enterprising attorney who wants his one-third share of a triple-damages settlement is free to go for it.

It's happened in neighboring Indiana to the tune of an 80-million plus lawsuit for the city of Hammond.

25 posted on 12/28/2011 1:47:41 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
I think that is a stretch. Ain’t gonna happen.

Indeed. Criminal prosecutions are far more commonplace. But if they do not occur, any enterprising attorney who wants his one-third share of a triple-damages settlement is free to go for it.

It's happened in neighboring Indiana to the tune of an 80-million plus lawsuit for the city of Hammond.

26 posted on 12/28/2011 1:48:05 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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