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This is a true story, it just hasn't happened yet.

Posted on 12/21/2011 7:14:44 AM PST by Any Fate But Submission

This is a true story, it just hasn’t happened yet.

“I’m hungry grandma Kay” Abbie cried “When are we going to eat”? “I don’t know sweetie, I’m hungry too” Kay replied. Abbie just stood there in the living room in her bulky coat and boots swaying back and forth with her head hanging down and weeping softly. She was skin and bones, Kay knew she wouldn’t last much longer. After 3 weeks there had been nothing to eat anywhere and now, only 6 weeks after the lights went out, they were starving.

“Grandma, remember when I told you my friend Marla’s family was storing food at their cabin?” said Abbie. “Yes” Kay sighed. “Why didn’t we store food?” Abbie asked. “Well” Kay said sheepishly, “Everyone thought it was so silly back then, a waste of time and money….“ said Kay as she slumped exhausted in her favorite chair, knowing she could not save Abbie or herself. She thought “If only….”. She ran her glove across the fine leather chair and realized she could have bought enough food for years for Abbie and herself for what she paid for her beloved chair; it would have been so easy back then, just 6 weeks ago. Now, she would give all she had for a single can of stew.

The moral, the point? Give your family a gift of life this Christmas, buy the extra food. Canned goods last many many years if not damaged. Put rice, etc. in Mylar bags with oxygen absorbers (Total $2.50 per 5 gallons plus the rice) and they will last 25 years. You can sense the future, they cannot, it is up to you to provide for them.


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To: Any Fate But Submission

Can of stew my eye. She needs a gun so she can ambush her prepper neighbor and take his food.


41 posted on 12/21/2011 8:16:03 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Auntie Mame
there is an abundance of food in the forests ripe for the picking

At certain times of the year, but not always.

42 posted on 12/21/2011 8:16:12 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Any Fate But Submission

The Boy Scout Motto: Be Prepared. Some may think preparedness is going a bit over the top but they are the ones who will come to your place looking for food,etc.


43 posted on 12/21/2011 8:16:20 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: brownsfan

“If the world becomes that bleak, I just need one round.”

So will the next guy.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.


44 posted on 12/21/2011 8:19:53 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pollster1

Yeah, that’s pretty much how I see it too. Not sure I would need 10,000 rds of .223. If I personally need anywhere near 10,000 rds I have to face the facts that I’m probably not going to single-handedly hold off an entire brigade of zombies without a scratch.


45 posted on 12/21/2011 8:20:45 AM PST by Obadiah (If U don't believe you can win, then there is no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day.)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

If only they have bought gold instead of that chair. Then they could have shiny pieces of metal to play with while they starved to death. :-)

On a more topical note, my family has stored up over a month of food for an emergency in an extremely portable form, by eating ourselves into gross obesity. Nobody can steal OUR food!! (OK, again I’m joking a bit — not about the overweightness of my family, but the reason why — but remember that this was the winning strategy of one of the early “Survivor” winners — get in shape, but then also eat a lot, so the starvation diet doesn’t weaken you, and people will not see you as a threat).

Slightly off-topic, but a book that I found that was very interesting relative to a post-apocalyptic economy was “Life As We Know It”. The premise of their apocalypse was absurd — a comet knocks the moon into a new orbit closer to earth, which somehow destroys a lot of the power stations, I think mostly because of changed weather patterns and vastly higher tides.

But if you just accept the premise of weather changes, power failures, and the subsequent collapse of society, it was a fascinating story of a family trying to survive until society can get basic services back up and running.

And back to the serious note. My family hasn’t particularly prepared for an apocalypse, but I think just because of our pack-rat nature we easily have a couple of month’s worth of food items stored around in our pantry. We do have water purification tablets and filters enough to do rainwater if we have to, or maybe even a local stream although I’d really have to be in trouble to try that even with iodine pills.

We do have our 3-day emergency kit, with food and water, packed up and ready to go (we cheated and bought one from Walmart, and supplemented it with a few extra useful items).

I’ve wanted to do a 6-month rotating food storage in my basement, but it’s low on my list — along with a solar power system, not because it’s efficient, but because it is highly self-sufficient, dependent only on the sun not being blotted out. I could do the same with a good power generated that runs on propane, and a large tank of propane, but that wouldn’t last indefinitely.

As for your family, did they know that many parts of a pine tree are edible? A single book on what plant life can be eaten could mean the difference between starvation and survival. That’s the least people should have.


46 posted on 12/21/2011 8:21:05 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Auntie Mame
But.....I should add..... that picking all of those berries involved "work", something that many of today's "starving people" don't have much experience with.

I'd still trade a week's pay for a pan of my Mom's fresh blackberry cobbler. There was a huge patch, growing wild, an easy walk from our house. The neighbors who owned the land (could be counted among those who 'would starve because they're too lazy to feed themselves') said "Help yourself, we'll never do anything with it."

I'd run over, pick a bucket to have with breakfast, and Mom would have cobbler ready for dessert with dinner. MMMMmmmmmmm. :-)

47 posted on 12/21/2011 8:21:26 AM PST by wbill
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To: Red Badger

Tracks very closely with the book. For others reading, Mccarthy is author of “No Country For Old Men” and “All the Pretty Horses” which both were made into movies.


48 posted on 12/21/2011 8:24:30 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: duffee
Guns, food, water, and ammunition.

You forgot fear.

You don't have to live in it if you don't want to.

49 posted on 12/21/2011 8:29:58 AM PST by delacoert
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To: afraidfortherepublic

At certain times of the year, but not always.


Very true. Here are a few books/items to borrow/purchase:

Stocking the Wild Asparagus

“Wild Cards” (Wild Cards: Edible Wild Foods Playing Card Deck)

site: Edible Wild Plants
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=native%20edible%20plants&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CFEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wildwoodsurvival.com%2Fsurvival%2Ffood%2Fedibleplants%2F&ei=uwbyTvyuNob22gW03bCgAg&usg=AFQjCNFfBLGRPTSisuXij_Ttt4XwHAFhnA&cad=rja

Identify where these items grow and allow them to remain “Wild”. Chances are little Jimmy or Susie don’t know what they are and will not bother them.

Prepare the best you can for local emergencies. You’ll be better organized than the majority of “x”.

I’m just lazy. Don’t like to “run to the store” every time I want something.


50 posted on 12/21/2011 8:31:10 AM PST by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
A pity Kay and Abbie probably died, while Marla’s family enjoys a blessed existence, fighting off people who are trying to steal their food.

Until they are overwhelmed and killed. Then they're just as dead as Kay and Abie. Or they eat up their food supply and then starve to death, just like Kay and Abie.
51 posted on 12/21/2011 8:31:46 AM PST by Cheburashka (If life hands you lemons, government regulations will prevent you from making lemonade.)
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To: Pollster1
I'm unlikely to fire more than perhaps 100 rounds of 12 ga. even with repeated "zombie" attacks

When zombies are attacking it is foolhardy to wait until they are within range of a shotgun. A large crowd of them will have you surrounded very quickly. You should also get a high powered rifle to take out as many of them as you can while they are still a couple hundred feet away.

As far as shotguns go use 00 slug loads. Zombie skulls really need a good whack before they go down. They just laugh at bird-shot. Also use your pump model early on for the ones you couldn't pick off with the rifle when you have time to fire, assess, pump, aim and fire. But keep around a reliable semi that holds at least five rounds such as the Remington 1100 series for the very end as they are crowding your front porch when you'll be needing to pick them off in rapid succession. Be sure and remove the shell blocker from the magazine. Unless you are being attacked by Department of Fish and Game zombies no one will cite you.

Remember to replace the shell-blocker you decide to go bird hunting later that day. I've had wardens check before and if the guy's a real jerk he's not going to take the old, "But I was fighting off a zombie attack on my home this morning and needed the rapid fire-power." Believe me, I've tried that one.

52 posted on 12/21/2011 8:35:00 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

Of course this has happened before. Didn’t you read Hansel and Gretel? The grandma there would have survived a long time off a couple of roasted brats if things had gone her way. The kids weren’t nearly as smart as they’v been made out to be. They were bone skinny to begin with and then they wasted their scraps of bread on birds but when they finally had to opportunity to pig out, they burned granny to ashes. Yes, it’s happened before and the ending was much the same - they starved from lack of skills.


53 posted on 12/21/2011 8:42:39 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Lady Lucky
Start looking for news storied of the DoJ filing lawsuits against police agencies for “racial profiling” against Hispanics. They have filed a suite against Sheriff Joe and they have now done it again in Cincinnati I think.

They are also filing suites against stated for enforcing immigration laws and for requiring voter ID.

It's all aimed to gin up civil unrest with Hispanics.

54 posted on 12/21/2011 8:43:17 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Sherman Logan

If you’re a Bible-believer, times like that will, surely, come! Insofar as morality goes, you will surely be tested. You cannot say what you will or will not do, especially, if you’ve never been in a survival position before. Outcomes, of course, will depend on your worldview


55 posted on 12/21/2011 8:47:40 AM PST by old school
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To: IMR 4350

“They” are going to get people like Sheriff Joe. Anyone remember B-1 Bob? The GOP abandoned him. And I don’t see the GOP supporting Sheriff Joe either.


56 posted on 12/21/2011 8:54:52 AM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: Sherman Logan

If you’re a Bible-believer, times like that will, surely, come! Insofar as morality goes, you will surely be tested. You cannot say what you will or will not do, especially, if you’ve never been in a survival position before. Outcomes, of course, will depend on your worldview


57 posted on 12/21/2011 8:55:27 AM PST by old school
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To: wbill

end-of-the-world scenario can’t be prepared for, and certainly shouldn’t be looked forward to. . . .

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I doubt that anyone is looking forward to it unless his name is Rambo.

You can’t sit back and watch and then wonder why you die of starvation. Yes there will be people who will be willing to face death from your bullets to get your food. Yes there could be gangs who will want what you have. You can prepare for this, you just can’t do it by yourself.

If someone comes for everything you have hopefully you can persuade him to leave. If a gang comes hopefully you can convince them to move to an easier target.

I think I would rather die defending my food supply than from starvation, I would like to be as comfortable as possible until the end.


58 posted on 12/21/2011 8:58:11 AM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Sherman Logan
Yep, you are better off getting the food by force when it comes to that than having to store and defend.

Planning to kill other people and steal their stuff.

Highly moral plan.

Sounds like a democrat plan to me.

59 posted on 12/21/2011 9:07:59 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

Store food, store ammo. Don’t use just one location.


60 posted on 12/21/2011 9:24:24 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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