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BREAKING - Arpaio: ICE refusing to take illegal immigrants from MCSO
KHPO Phoenix ^ | 12-22-2011 | John Hill - stand With Arizona

Posted on 12/21/2011 9:27:31 PM PST by montag813

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To: mylife

I’m in Nebraska. But Fremont has tried to require landlords to check the immigration status of renters and that ordinance has been put on hold because it’s being challenged in court. So there are people here who are trying to fight the good fight also. But you’re right that there is a lot here that contributes to the problem.

Do you remember back when they had the Day Without Immigrants (or whatever they called it)? My next-door neighbor said that “they” bused people to protest in Lincoln and Omaha, and “they” provided Mexican/Guatemalan, etc flags for people to fly on their car antennas. I did some research to try to find out who “they” were, who organized all these people. Turns out it was the Appleseed Foundation - a Soros-funded group. They work with the school folks and around then also tried to get local businesses to jump on board the pro-illegals agenda.

I literally live right next-door to the rent-a-mob. When George Soros calls for protests a rent-a-mob next door to me rises up in answer. And I’m friends with these people so I understand Perry’s predicament about being careful of what you say. That’s why I don’t want to misunderstand where Perry’s coming from.

I saw that the Minute Men founder endorsed Perry. Again, it makes me believe that I must be misunderstanding where Perry’s coming from. I want to understand. I need some help getting there though, and that’s what Perry needs to help us all out with. There are folks who want to support him, but we need to know how it is that we’re misunderstanding his stance on illegal immigration. We want to stand with the people who are doing the hard work on this. Like we’re standing with Sheriff Joe. We can do that because we know what Joe is doing. Now we need to know what Perry is doing.


121 posted on 12/21/2011 11:51:21 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

All I can tell you is that we have been working this border forever and now the Feds are inhibiting our action.


122 posted on 12/21/2011 11:54:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

IMO, virtually every administration official should either be imprisoned or executed, including the Punk himself. Bob


123 posted on 12/21/2011 11:57:43 PM PST by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan

Whoaa! Simmer down feller!

You mean “Obama” administration.

LoL


124 posted on 12/22/2011 12:00:10 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: butterdezillion
ICE agents did have a vote of no confidence in their Commissioner who continues to push the policies of this President. Almost as soon as he was sworn into office ICE agents were publicly rebuked for doing their job, busting an auto parts manufacturer that was using illegal labor. The illegals they arrested were cut lose with work permits while they awaited immigration hearings. Since then it has been down hill from there.

As an aside, the cartels have been taking over a large portion of the drug transshipment in the U.S. They used to unload it when they got it across the border, now they are moving it all the way to Canada.

"As secure as it's ever been."

125 posted on 12/22/2011 12:01:44 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

We have 91 congressmen in a vote of no confidence on Eric Holder


126 posted on 12/22/2011 12:03:57 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
No impeachment of a president ever with this senate..they wouldn't even remove Clinton and the house gave them the goods on him and Repub. Dole was majority leader in the senate...The dem's would vote to impeach and remove if they had both houses...they got Nixon to quit to avoid impeachment, the republicans turned on him an sided with dems. it was resign or removal....railroaded over a break in to the democrat headquarters at the Watergate and he didn't know until after the fact...thats why people now say its the cover up not the action that gets your buns in the burner...

Liddy did his time for that and refused to turn on the president...John Dean, who worked for Nixon was a turncoat.

127 posted on 12/22/2011 12:05:43 AM PST by goat granny
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To: mylife

I have troubles with Newt, partly because of the amnesty thing. Right now I don’t have a candidate that I support. Cain is out of the race. Bachman and Santorum’s numbers are critically low.

I don’t understand why Perry said you’d about have to not have a soul to deny in-state tuition to the children of illegals. My daughter will graduate from high school in spring. She was looking at a book that listed scholarship opportunities. She couldn’t find any that were for whites. It was all Hispanics and Blacks. Almost like my daughter doesn’t count because she’s white. That’s having a “soul”?

I do understand that there are so many in the Hispanic culture - or at least here anyway - who don’t want higher education. They want to drive fast cars, do drugs, and get laid. (My half-white, half-Mexican neighbor says that’s just their culture; it’s in their blood. I said maybe so but there are Latinos who don’t do that stuff too). So when a kid like that does want to further their education it’s sad to think about them not being able to. So from that perspective I can understand why Perry might have said that. But what should have happened is the parents should have put their names in to come here legally, or else they should have stayed where they were and worked to improve it there.

My daughter is friends with a girl who’s moved around a lot, probably to evade detection as an illegal. Her older sister is dating a guy while screwing around with somebody else. Her mom told her to keep dating this guy even though she doesn’t even like him because she needs to trick this guy into marrying her so she can be legal to stay here and then she can divorce him. Never mind who gets hurt. Just use people for your own purposes. This girl will want to go to college, and there will be scholarships for her just because she’s Hispanic.

The message all her classmates are getting from her story is totally wrong. But it’s there because it is politically advantageous for some powerful people to make sure that people like this girl get the sweet treatment regardless of how they use and abuse both the system and the people around them. The powerful people force this reality onto all of us by saying that it would be heartless of us to not wink at this kind of thing.

If we give somebody in-state tuition even though they are the child of an illegal, does that mean that we deport the illegal parents but not the child who then gets in-state tuition because they are a US citizen residing in-state? Is that what Perry supports? Is he saying they should be given in-state tuition because they themselves are US citizens, regardless of what their parents are? And would he support the deportation of the parents for their illegal activity, regardless of what their children are?

I want to understand what he’s saying.


128 posted on 12/22/2011 12:25:12 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: montag813

The cheapest solution would be to put them on plane with one-way ticket to Washington DC.


129 posted on 12/22/2011 12:25:54 AM PST by D Rider
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To: mylife

Ah, that’s the smart answer. Why am I still up?

Goodnight. =)


130 posted on 12/22/2011 12:26:13 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I understand.

I have been on the wrong end of social engineering myself.


131 posted on 12/22/2011 12:32:52 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: montag813

This is Gov’t perpetrated anarchy. Also known as anarcho-tyranny

Don’t back down Sheriff Joe!


132 posted on 12/22/2011 12:39:41 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: montag813
Texas is dealing with this same Fed wall of incompetence and dereliction of duty.

ICE blamed for Texas parolee law delayThe state has been unable to enforce a new law designed to increase the deportations of illegal immigrants from the Texas prison system amid concerns that federal immigration officials are unprepared to handle the anticipated influx of convicted criminals, state officials said.

Under the new law, which was scheduled to take effect Sept. 1, state prisoners who are granted parole and turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials must either be deported or leave the country voluntarily - or risk being returned to state custody to serve out the remainder of their sentences.

The law was crafted to address a vexing problem identified by the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles, which reported granting parole to some illegal immigrants and turning them over to ICE - only to later learn that they were not removed from the country, said state Rep. Jerry Madden, R-Plano.”………………..

Mexico’s drug war is giving growers a break EL BARRIL, Mexico — The Mexican government is allowing domestic marijuana and opium poppy production to climb to record levels, as soldiers who once cut and burned illegal crops here in the vast Sierra Madre mountains are being redeployed to cities to wage urban warfare against criminal gangs.

Since President Felipe Calderon ordered his troops into the streets in late 2006, the acreage dedicated to marijuana farming has nearly doubled in Mexico, according to technical reports by the U.S. government and the United Nations, data provided by the Mexican military, and interviews with law enforcement agents and growers.

The acreage devoted to opium poppies has also soared, according to the U.S. State Department, making Mexico the second-leading heroin producer in the world, after Afghanistan, whose crop goes mostly to Europe and Asia.......

“Yes, it is a change in strategy, as the army now gives priority to catching criminals and seizing cocaine, which is far more valuable to the cartels” than marijuana or heroin, said Raul Benitez, an expert in drug trafficking and national security at the National Autonomous University of Mexico.

The Mexican government, Benitez said, also cares less about marijuana cultivation these days because the U.S. government appears to care less.”………………..

Still no solution for illegal immigrants' long-term care costs…………..”Still, the real problem isn't hospitals, which transfer most all patients, both U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants, once urgent care is no longer needed and the bed is needed for other patients. It's long-term care facilities, unable to afford to accept patients, like Martinez, who don't have insurance. It remains for hospitals, obligated by federal regulation to arrange post-hospital care for those who need it, to find alternatives and to provide care indefinitely if they can't....

133 posted on 12/22/2011 12:45:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: butterdezillion

The people of Arizona can always take matters into their own hands as in the past the Minutemen did.


134 posted on 12/22/2011 12:49:33 AM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: butterdezillion; kearnyirish2
"We have a federal policy;...."

Indeed we do.

This DOJ witchhunt was initiated to fabricate an excuse to pull Arpaio's deputies Immigration Certification. It helps Holder's whole 'feds only' immigration enforcement SCOTUS argument.

135 posted on 12/22/2011 1:03:55 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Smokeyblue
"Someone correct me if I’m wrong but they aren’t doing this to the other Sheriffs in Arizona."

Did his deputies get the same Certification Arpio's did?

136 posted on 12/22/2011 1:09:49 AM PST by moehoward
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To: butterdezillion

I guess it’s going to be “bleeding Kansas” for awhile..


137 posted on 12/22/2011 1:19:30 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: butterdezillion
Arizonans are too smart for that. I hope they run ICE out on a rail....We cannot have law enforcement refusing to enforce the law, and we can’t have the feds picking and choosing which law enforcement entities they will accept criminal referrals from. It’s bad enough that judges get away with doing that in civil cases, but if we allow law enforcement to do it in criminal cases this nation is toast. The Congress-critters should be able to grasp that, and if they can’t then we need ot make sure they hear about it until they grasp it.

I don't think the Feds are going to back down on this if it's related to Arpaio's investigation of Obama's birth certificate, and it very well may be. Short of a National outcry (and even then, they'd revert to simply indicting him)I think they're going to squeeze his balls until he says uncle, or, more likely, squeeze the citizen's balls until they make him say uncle. I don't think I'm wrong in assuming that having the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice breathing down your neck, isn't fun, and I'm sure they can make your life a living hell. Whatever he did, he pissed off some important people.

138 posted on 12/22/2011 1:25:21 AM PST by csense
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To: papertyger

The people assigned some of their sovereign powers to a new government in order to “insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty . . . “

Protection of our lives and property are the first purposes of government. When they refuse, it is time to start over.


139 posted on 12/22/2011 2:19:38 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: presently no screen name
Perry MUST harp on this loudly - asap - non stop!

Don't go and hold your breath!

140 posted on 12/22/2011 2:31:27 AM PST by Ron H.
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