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Nasty, Rotty Stuff' (LA School District Wasting Thousands of Healthy Food. Students Reject Them)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 12/22/2011

Posted on 12/22/2011 4:59:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind

"Nasty, Rotty Stuff"

That's the verdict from student Mayra Gutierrez on the new healthful menu introduced this year by the Los Angeles Unified School District. And she's not alone, according to the L.A. Times.

"At Van Nuys High School," reports the paper, "complaints about the food were so widespread that Principal Judith Vanderbok wrote to [food services director Dennis] Barrett with the plea: 'Please help! Bring back better food!'"

Readers might wonder how, with all of the challenges in reading, writing and arithmetic, school administrators decided that reducing fat and sodium at the cafeteria was a top priority for L.A. schools. And it turns out that the city's decision to ban chocolate milk and chicken nuggets in favor of quinoa salads and pad Thai noodles has created a full-blown crisis.

"Many of the meals are being rejected en masse. Participation in the school lunch program has dropped by thousands of students," reports the Times. "Students are ditching lunch, and some say they're suffering from headaches, stomach pains and even anemia. At many campuses, an underground market for chips, candy, fast-food burgers and other taboo fare is thriving."

So the healthy food is so bad that kids are literally starving themselves rather than tucking into vegetarian curries, or else engaging in a black market. Apparently even an art teacher has been among those caught selling illicit candy, chips and instant noodles. Andre Jahchan, a high-school sophomore, tells the Times, "No matter how healthy it is, if it's not appetizing, people won't eat it."

No one is against healthy eating, and obesity is a growing youth problem, but L.A.'s education whizzes forgot the law of unintended health-food consequences. You can't make a child eat vegetables without a little dessert to wash it down.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: childhoodobesity; foodpolice; healthyfood; losangeles; nannystate; school; schoollunch
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1 posted on 12/22/2011 4:59:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Food fetishists. I hates 'em.

/johnny

2 posted on 12/22/2011 5:07:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind
Stupidity on a massive scale. Obviously a plan devised by some einstein liberal activists who never have even talked to a kid under the age of twentyfive.
3 posted on 12/22/2011 5:07:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

Trying to remember a movie with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas..Burt is let out of prison in his old age and ends up in a nursing home where he leads the inmates in a demand for...”REAL FOOD! REAL FOOD!”


4 posted on 12/22/2011 5:08:27 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SeekAndFind
Participation in the school lunch program has dropped by thousands of students," reports the Times. "Students are ditching lunch, and some say they're suffering from headaches, stomach pains and even anemia. At many campuses, an underground market for chips, candy, fast-food burgers and other taboo fare is thriving."

An example of another reason leftists hate God, because he gave us that pesky "free will" thingie. Very inconvenient for the "do it our way, 'cause we're enlightened libs" crowd.
5 posted on 12/22/2011 5:09:00 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

If I am not mistaken, this has something to do with Michele Obama’s Anti-Obesity food program.


6 posted on 12/22/2011 5:09:15 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the Dept. of Education can have Eric the Bigot go to LA and threaten the kids. He should be able to use a little extortion there... no eaty good for you food, grades reduced.


7 posted on 12/22/2011 5:09:15 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Goes to show you that you can’t out-stupid a bureaucrat, they are just too well practiced!


8 posted on 12/22/2011 5:11:51 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

***”Many of the meals are being rejected en masse. Participation in the school lunch program has dropped by thousands of students,”****

Do Like I did back in 1956. Bring your own from home. A couple of sandwiches, and a cookie or apple. Certainly better than the slop they served at ONE school I went to!

And four slices of bread with lunch meat won’t break the family budget.


9 posted on 12/22/2011 5:12:46 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas..Burt is let out of prison in his old age and ends up in a nursing home where he leads the inmates in a demand for...”REAL FOOD! REAL FOOD!”

I BELIEVE THE MOVIE YOU'RE THINKING OF IS "TOUGH GUYS"


10 posted on 12/22/2011 5:14:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I read a related article on this, and from the gist of it looks the program has three big problems:

1) It’s pretty obvious some of the dishes were just bad choices. Black bean burgers, for example, are one of the new offerings. Done properly, a spicy black bean patty is actually pretty tasty stuff. Kind of like a southwestern falafel. But even the best BBB on earth is not going to make you forget the juicy goodness of an actual hamburger. Reading the list, I can see where a lot of kids (teens are notoriously picky anyway) just wouldn’t go for many of the new offerings.

2) Preparation also seems to be a real problem. Most of the new foods were taste-tested at the L.A. school district’s central kitchen. Many selections got raves there. But some of those same dishes being served in the actual schools - like the pozole stew - are barely recognizable from the test kitchen offerings. I don’t know if it is a problem with the kitchen staff, or the school cutting corners with ingredients to keep food budget costs low, but in many cases the kids just aren’t getting the same thing as was advertised at the test kitchens.

3) Just speculation on this last point, but as another FReeper pointed out to me: some dishes just don’t hold up well under the heat lamps. Pad Thai, for example (sort of the Thai equivalent of Chow Mein, sort of), is out of this world done right. But it’s not a dish that lends itself to sitting around in a steamer tray for a couple of hours. A school cafeteria simply can’t do food “to order”, and I would suspect that in at least some instances a decently-prepared dish has gone to dreck because it sat around too long.


11 posted on 12/22/2011 5:16:39 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: SeekAndFind
A good teaching moment, this is what will happen on a grand scale when government controls everything.

12 posted on 12/22/2011 5:19:40 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well,allrighty then...guess the “large-posterior”ed one with the “big butt”’s program is a-perish the thought!!-colossal failure....COLOSSAL..like her butt.


13 posted on 12/22/2011 5:22:21 PM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

AN organized boycott would be cool.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 5:22:56 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

Public school is child abuse.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 5:24:46 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Are they still allowed to bring lunchboxes? I am sure those will be banned if this persists.


16 posted on 12/22/2011 5:25:41 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yes it is and the sooner we as a society recognize that, the sooner we can be on the road to recovery


17 posted on 12/22/2011 5:29:09 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

How to Create Black Markets.


18 posted on 12/22/2011 5:30:39 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Navy Patriot

:D


19 posted on 12/22/2011 5:33:44 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: SeekAndFind
"Students are ditching lunch, and some say they're suffering from headaches, stomach pains and even anemia.

Smells like Teen Drama. "I'm starving!! STARVING!!!" If you turn down free food because you are too finicky for anything but Hot Cheetos and cupcakes, you are more spoiled than one of those fluffy white cats with the pug faces. This is a temper tantrum and everyone here is buying it. I work at LAUSD and I have been eating these meals ever since they appeared a few weeks ago. They are quite good, and these kids are being brats.

And FReepers crowing about Free Markets better remember: these are mostly low-income Hispanic kids and about 25% of them are markedly overweight. Their parents have a variety of weird health problems that they tell me about, and whole families look like pre-diabetic poster children whose medical care you're paying for.

20 posted on 12/22/2011 5:38:11 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: SeekAndFind

Let McDonals open a store in the school and give each moocher a $5.00 voucher every day.


21 posted on 12/22/2011 5:47:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

You think the food sucks, wait till we get the ‘health care’.


22 posted on 12/22/2011 5:51:21 PM PST by Track9
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To: GeronL
Are they still allowed to bring lunchboxes? I am sure those will be banned if this persists.

My God man, there could be bombs or drugs in those lunchboxes!!!

23 posted on 12/22/2011 5:59:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

If they don’t eat it, maybe they’ll lose some weight.


24 posted on 12/22/2011 6:01:00 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Carry_Okie

or worse, bibles or conservative literature!


25 posted on 12/22/2011 6:01:14 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: BenLurkin

Our local high school has a chik-fil-a and a subway and something else in there.... heh

Plus bringing your lunch is always an option, well maybe not in leftist enclaves like LA.

Publik skoolz should not exist, IMO


26 posted on 12/22/2011 6:03:36 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Do Like I did back in 1956. Bring your own from home. A couple of sandwiches, and a cookie or apple. Certainly better than the slop they served at ONE school I went to!

Same here. From 1955 to 1968, I always brought a brown bag lunch from home - bologna or peanut butter sandwichs and potato chips. I never ate the horrible cafeteria food, but often bought ice cream bars at school.

27 posted on 12/22/2011 6:04:25 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Supply and demand. The screwools supply crappy lunches and the students demand some thing else.


28 posted on 12/22/2011 6:24:35 PM PST by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: GeronL

****Are they still allowed to bring lunchboxes? I am sure those will be banned if this persists.***

Already have been banned at our local school. Everyone must eat the government supplied slop. The more kids forced to eat, the more money the suppliers get from Uncle Sugar (you and me).


29 posted on 12/22/2011 6:25:24 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SeekAndFind

TOUGH GUYS That’s it!


30 posted on 12/22/2011 6:26:45 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DemforBush
I think you are right on all three points. But I also think that they do not want to prepare nutritious food that is tasty or tasty food that is nutritious.

Take the way they are flipping out over salt, something that is a required part of your diet and, except in a few cases, not harmful at all yet it must be restricted!

Why?

Well, you are eating more then you need!

So?

You are eating more then you need!

Once again, so?

They have never been able to explain why they are against it for everybody but they are. It is tasty, it makes other foods tasty and it is necessary. Nutritious food must be revolting because they don't want people to enjoy eating.

I think that if salt was nasty they would be dumping it on everything and encouraging us to eat it.

31 posted on 12/22/2011 6:32:04 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

really?

and the parents simply bowed down like sheep?


32 posted on 12/22/2011 6:35:27 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Hey, dumb a**. Just because you like the BS they are serving doesn’t mean the kids are brats. I hated cafeteria food when I was in HS and never eat it, brought my lunch from home. The only brat I see on this thread is you.


33 posted on 12/22/2011 6:42:39 PM PST by calex59
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To: SeekAndFind

Just like liberals, short term “fixes” that end up in long-term pain.


34 posted on 12/22/2011 6:50:24 PM PST by struggle
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To: SeekAndFind

Rush announced the other day that the LA school District has back-tracked somewhat and is going to offer burgers and pizza everyday along with the crap that it is currently serving ...

Its a bitch slap to Michelle ...


35 posted on 12/22/2011 6:53:27 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: calex59
Hey, dumb a**...The only brat I see on this thread is you.

Well, you probably don't have a reflection.

36 posted on 12/22/2011 7:00:32 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Lmo56

What it really suggests is that the entire premise for offering the food — that the kids can’t afford their own — has just been blown out of the water. They can afford the junk they want, and have just proven it.


37 posted on 12/22/2011 7:04:35 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

I have a fine reflection and it shows a conservative, not a liberal repeating liberal BS talking points and lying about cafeteria food, which was barely edible before the Wookie put her 2 cents into the pot.


38 posted on 12/22/2011 7:16:59 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

All you know is how mad you are.


39 posted on 12/22/2011 7:21:13 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Navy Patriot
Public school is child abuse.

You're so right. This society isn't even recognizable anymore. How the hell is it so many people go along with this EVIL?

40 posted on 12/22/2011 7:27:19 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Public schools are the main engine of the State’s war on human society, and it’s winning on all fronts.


41 posted on 12/22/2011 7:32:20 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Mad? Nope, disgusted with your idiotic statements about how the students are brats because they don’t like the BS the Bozo administration is forcing on to them is about the size of it.


42 posted on 12/22/2011 7:32:39 PM PST by calex59
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To: A_perfect_lady

Conservatives for junk food and diabetes here!


43 posted on 12/22/2011 7:32:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: gimme1ibertee
You know the rule about photos-
44 posted on 12/22/2011 7:33:30 PM PST by matthew fuller ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most Americans don’t know how to cook. Everything is pre prepared garbage from the grocery store filled with hydrogynated fats, preservatives, and low quality ingredients.

This is slowly changing with the move to fresher ingredients, fewer additives, healthier fats, and better tasting meals.

View this video about French public school food to see the difference. They eat good food, and therefore, childhood obesity is low. That doesn’t mean this is some hippy watermelon (green outside red inside) propaganda. When America gets serious about eating better tasting and healthier meals, this is what we will demand from our public schools. Or better yet, give vouchers so that private schools can provide the services that responsible loving parents are searching for in vain. (or you can homeschool)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovO18E-hgew


45 posted on 12/22/2011 7:35:02 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"Do Like I did back in 1956."

In the 60s we had a cafeteria with kitchen that made real food. Salisbury Steak, Fried Chicken, then a hot dog or burger thrown in once a week. No one brought their lunches. Now we make one every morning for our 16 year old. Sometimes she'll make her own.

46 posted on 12/22/2011 7:41:42 PM PST by moehoward
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To: calex59
You apparently haven't tasted it, so you don't actually know what you are talking about. I have, and it's quite good. But it is foreign, and kids don't like to try new things. Actually, I don't either. When one of my fellow teachers pounced on the quinoa salad that first day, I looked at him (and it) in horror. He wolfed it down and I watched with my lip curled up. It took me a week to work up the nerve to start buying the new stuff. Once I tried it, I was hooked. It's really quite good. It's definitely better than what was there before.

Now, the kids who are complaining most likely don't have the kind of parents who urge them to try something new, or tell them to shut up and eat what's put in front of them (like I did). Instead, their parents give them the PopTarts and Cheetos because that culture tends to be quite indulgent to children. They're very nice folks, but most of the ones I see cave to their kids like wet tissue. Again: I know what I am talking about. I'm actually working right smack dab in the middle of it. You only know that if a liberal did it, it must be bad. It's a childish attitude.

47 posted on 12/22/2011 7:42:29 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
Excuse me liberal talking point spokes person. I do know what it taste like because when I was in HS, the cafeteria food tasted like crap, and they didn't try to make it "nutritious" and healthy. So, I have a general idea of what the vegan slop they are trying to push off on the teens today tastes like.

You are an idiot,and a liberal troll, no excuse for you. Please don't respond to this comment because I won't answer.

48 posted on 12/22/2011 7:58:37 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

I’m more than happy to have the last word: you haven’t tasted it. You don’t know.


49 posted on 12/22/2011 8:02:28 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: matthew fuller
A pretty, festive, holiday bow Michelle is wearing.

And finally, some sensable shoes!

50 posted on 12/22/2011 10:00:54 PM PST by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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