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If you're against hanging, think of poor Lesley
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 23rd December 2011 | Kelvin MacKenzie

Posted on 12/23/2011 5:34:35 PM PST by naturalman1975

Donald Neilson has just died at the age of 75. He had been looked after by the State for the past 36 years, receiving three square meals a day which he didn’t pay for and he was provided with a warm and secure shelter.

Contrast Neilson’s life to that of Lesley Whittle. At the age of just 17, it was snuffed out. She died alone and naked, with her neck tethered by a wire noose, down a 60ft reservoir drainage shaft.

Such an ordeal would have been terrifying for anyone, let alone a teenage girl.

Neilson was better known as the Black Panther, a psychopath who was convicted of the murder of Lesley. He kidnapped her after reading that she had inherited £82,000 from her father. After breaking into her family home in Shropshire, he bound her with sticking plaster while her mother slept and took her to the drain shaft where he left her hanging while he made a ransom demand for £50,000.

Eventually, after 11 months at large, the former Army lance corporal was caught, prosecuted and given four life sentences.

The court heard that he had also shot dead three postmasters during a spree of 400 robberies and burglaries.

I heartily agree with Stuart Mackenzie, the police officer who finally disarmed Neilson and who received a bravery award for his actions.

He says: ‘I’m a great believer in an eye for an eye. Neilson never showed any remorse. He should have hanged.

‘When you look at the number of lives he took, why shouldn’t he have lost his own? Neilson enjoyed a life of luxury in jail while the families of his victims had to struggle on, working for a living.’

If there was ever a case for capital punishment, Neilson was it.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: capitalpunishment; deathpenalty; hanging

1 posted on 12/23/2011 5:34:41 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Oh, but the poor — who are disproportionately victimized by criminals in the first place — would comprise most of the executions. Why, it’s almost as if they commit most of the violent crimes. Thanks naturalman1975.


2 posted on 12/23/2011 5:49:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: naturalman1975

What would happen if slick willie had done it? Just a guess - his approval rating would have gone up, and the Senate would rule against impeachment.


3 posted on 12/23/2011 5:56:04 PM PST by immadashell
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To: naturalman1975

I doubt anyone on FR is against hanging.


4 posted on 12/23/2011 6:38:05 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

The victim’s families should not have to pay taxes to provide this zip wad three square meals per day decade after decade. He should have faced the pain of death before old age.


5 posted on 12/23/2011 6:55:36 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Persevero

There are opponents of capital punishment here - I’ve seen them post and some of them have what I would say are perfectly reasonable objections, even if I disagree. But I thought the article was interesting as an argument for it, even for those who do already agree.


6 posted on 12/23/2011 8:03:24 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

“There are opponents of capital punishment here -”

I suppose so, the official position of the RC church is against the death penalty, I think, and there are certainly Roman Catholic FReepers.

Still, any law and order post gets posted, and the comments all seem to be variations on “hang ‘em high!”


7 posted on 12/23/2011 8:09:44 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

I am, on occasion. Too quick and painless.


8 posted on 12/23/2011 8:33:45 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: naturalman1975

Hang him high! Such as he should be gotten rid of—we have too many people—good people—starving and living in terrible conditions. Take his food and use it to feed starving children who are innocent—let him die of want. A better end than he deserves. Bring back the guillotine! The electric chair and the Firing squads. One thing we have too much of—bad people who have lost their right to be human.


9 posted on 12/23/2011 8:57:23 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: naturalman1975

Having a murderer die of old age isn’t justice in my book.

I believe he deserves the same fate as his victim.

Only then can one say justice was done.

The death penalty is about both restorative and retributive justice. A decent society seeks to uphold both ends and make sense of a cruel world.

By affirming the values by which it lives.


10 posted on 12/23/2011 11:42:42 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The poor deserve the comfort and humanity to which he wasn’t entitled.

Making someone evil appear as less than a monster makes a mockery out of our regard for human life.

Lesley Whittle had a soul. That counts for a lot more than the body of someone bereft of compassion for others.


11 posted on 12/23/2011 11:47:25 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Hanging is too good for some people.


12 posted on 12/24/2011 4:39:37 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: naturalman1975

As the saying goes: “The anticipation of death is worse than death itself” - should have been placed on death row. But then, England doesn’t do that anymore.


13 posted on 12/24/2011 9:00:15 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: naturalman1975

and in this country, it is high time we get the execution chambers running for those that have been on death row for more that 2 years.


14 posted on 12/24/2011 9:08:27 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: NY Attitude

Neutral on the death penalty. For the most part no. Most murders should not be death penalty cases. If they want to give the death penalty for the most heinous murders, then a jury must decide & I support long appeals for death row inmates incl. the right to commute death sentences @ the last minute to life w/o parole. Support mandatory sentences for murder whether it’s 1st, 2nd & Manslaughter with both 2nd Degree & Manslaughter carrying possibility of parole after a minimum sentence while with 1st Degree almost no chance of parole. Ordinary people can commit murder if given the circumstances so that’s why parole must be possible for 2nd Degree & Manslaughter.


15 posted on 01/12/2012 10:40:22 AM PST by columbuswascatholic
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