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Police: 'Mean looks' led to shooting deaths of 2 Fresno teens
The Fresno Bee ^ | Thursday, Dec. 22, 2011 | 10:17 PM | By Paula Lloyd and Marc Benjamin

Posted on 12/24/2011 12:32:15 AM PST by pterional

"Mean looks" between groups of teens Tuesday night sparked a confrontation that led to the shooting deaths of two teens, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said Thursday. Two other teens -- Jarrad Beard, 19, and his 16-year-old brother -- were arrested after the shootings. Dyer said the brothers, who were booked on two counts of murder each, are gang members. Beard was booked into the Fresno County Jail, while his brother was booked into the Juvenile Justice Center. Before announcing the arrests, Dyer expressed his condolences to the families of shooting victims Justin Hesketh, 18, and Brandon Moore, 16, both of Fresno. Hesketh and Moore were not associated with any gang, police said. "This was a senseless act of violence," Dyer said. "It all stemmed from mean looks, and now two teenagers are dead."

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2011/12/22/2658951/mean-looks-led-to-fresno-slayings.html#storylink=omni_popular#storylink=cpy

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: crime; gangs; murder; shooting
Don't ever give anyone walking in front of you at a crosswalk a mean look s/.
1 posted on 12/24/2011 12:32:29 AM PST by pterional
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To: pterional
it wasnt mean looks that led to the deaths of two teens,

it was a culture raised in a void of discipline and moral values, perpetrated by a progressive socialist moral structure and politically flawed justice system that led to their deaths

2 posted on 12/24/2011 12:40:46 AM PST by KTM rider ( with citizenship you get indentured servitude)
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To: pterional

Black on white murder. For “no reason.”


3 posted on 12/24/2011 1:16:24 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Just imagine the news if the races were reversed . America is terminally ill . Can’t imagine what it’ll be like in 20 years .


4 posted on 12/24/2011 1:32:30 AM PST by sushiman
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To: pterional

The pictures of the punks and victims are at the link. This was two black gang members shooting and killing two white teens. Something to do with mean looks. Allegedly. This should do wonders for race relations in Fresno.


5 posted on 12/24/2011 1:40:20 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: pterional

I haven’t looked at the pictures yet, but this does not sound like Latino violence to me. I thought everyone in Fresno was supposed to be afraid of Latinos there? (My 98 year old Mom still lives there, and that is what my relatives say.)

May the victims R. I. P. and the Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them. Now, I’m going to read the article.


6 posted on 12/24/2011 2:10:48 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; tubebender

These were college stuents who were shot and killed. The punks shot at thheir truck and the victims jumped out and chased them into their ‘hood on foot and were killed. From the streets mentioned, this occurred almost in Clovis. So, there’s nothing to see here — move along now. s/off

The police chief said that the shooters were both in gangs, had guns, but had no prior records of violence. I feel so much better now. *eye roll* s/off


7 posted on 12/24/2011 2:25:21 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“...chased them into their ‘hood on foot and were killed.”

Typical stupid white college kids. (Just like I was.)
I have tried to ingrain some sense of reality into my kids that I did not have. Yes, some folks will beat you up or worse if you yell or gesture at them, or if you give them a “mean look”. And my son has luckily got over the phase of doing his wanabe gang hand signals. Not only does it look stupid - especially on a well-groomed white kid - but in certain neighborhoods might give you a whupping.

I wonder if the gang-bangers will end up claiming self defense? And I’m not familiar with the area at all - but I wonder if the college boys were trying to score drugs or something? Not that they should get killed for that obviously - but also not too bright I wouldn’t think.


8 posted on 12/24/2011 2:37:34 AM PST by 21twelve
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This was pretty far west of Clovis, near Herndon/99.


9 posted on 12/24/2011 3:01:26 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: pterional

The war against white people rolls on.

Why is this not a ‘hate crime’?


10 posted on 12/24/2011 3:09:43 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Enterprise

Thanks for the correction. I haven’t lived in Fresno for more than 50 years and mis remembered Herndon as a north/south street. Of course, it is an east/west thoroughfare. That area was barren farmland way out in the country when I was growing up. Is that anywhere near the underground house?


11 posted on 12/24/2011 3:15:27 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: pterional
"It all stemmed from mean looks"...

But, but, if they hadn't given them "mean looks", it could have been perceived as "disrespectful" and that could end up in violence as well...

12 posted on 12/24/2011 3:16:11 AM PST by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: Bon mots
The war against white people rolls on. Why is this not a ‘hate crime’?

Because the perpetrators' thoughts were pure.

And besides, two less honkeys subjugating and suppressing the brothers. What's the big deal?

13 posted on 12/24/2011 3:16:12 AM PST by woofer
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To: Enterprise
Forstiere Underground Gardens

That was really way, way out of town, and Herndon is several miles farther away.

When I was in high school the Underground Gardens had been abandoned, but we used to pile into several cars and sneak out there at night and explore this marvel. We definitely were NOT supposed to be there, but nobody ever got hurt with these hi-jinks. We were such innocents!

If I ever caught my own kids doing anything like that, they would have been grounded for life. I remember paying more than one visit to the underground gardens where a man had dug out a whole complex with a trowel. He spent his life doing that, and he had planted trees 8-12 feet underground in the desert. He made himself a house down there too. I was amazed 20-25 years later when someone opened the place as a tourist attraction.

14 posted on 12/24/2011 3:33:50 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: pterional

“”This was a senseless act of violence,” Dyer said.”

Always look for codewords like “senseless” and “random act of violence” when government pigs lie about hate crimes.


15 posted on 12/24/2011 3:58:08 AM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: 21twelve

““...chased them into their ‘hood on foot and were killed.”

Typical stupid white college kids. (Just like I was.)”

Brandon Moore, unfortunately, from looking at his FB profile, comes across as one dumbass, rap sucking, dope smoking, gangsta “wigga” fool.

Justin Hesketh, a college student, much less so, appears to have been more of a geek type.

Chose your “friends” wisely.


16 posted on 12/24/2011 4:13:56 AM PST by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: pterional

Jarrad Beard

17 posted on 12/24/2011 4:27:30 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: KTM rider
it wasnt mean looks that led to the deaths of two teens,....

You nailed it !

18 posted on 12/24/2011 4:31:35 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: Mopp4

I would have bet everything I had that the perps would be some of “Holder’s people”..........


19 posted on 12/24/2011 4:41:21 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: patriot08

Leroy just got his new gun and wanted to try it out.

One of the brothers wrote a letter of apology, so that makes it allright.

I too wonder about the white kids and what they were doing in that neighborhood, and how smart can you be to chase down blacks in their own neighborhood especially after they have shot the tire off your car.

They couldn’t tell a gun firing from a thrown rock? and I havent met the man yet that can throw a rock so hard it can puncture my tire.


20 posted on 12/24/2011 4:55:34 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Progov

I’d say that would be a pretty safe bet !


21 posted on 12/24/2011 5:03:13 AM PST by Mopp4
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To: pterional

Holder’s People. They killed white kids because of “mean looks?” Well, hell; Holder and his boss have pretty much told “their people” that they are not responsibile for anything they do, that it is “whitey’s fault” or society’s fault or anyone else’s fault but theirs. Such twisted reasoning has become institutionalized in the United States.

I’m afraid there is now no possible chance of any kind of peaceful coexistence among the various “groups” the lefties have established, as that was in fact what the lefties had intended all along: Establish separate identity groups for the sole purpose of creating divisions, and then pit various groups against others, so that chaos ensues and the government (which must be controlled by the left) gets to step in and “remedy the situation.” This will necessarily result in the complete subjugation of the people by the government, and the people will be wholly subservient to the government; the government will become omnipotent.

If there is any hope for the future of the United States as a constitrutional republic, based on the rule of law, the left must be totally and permanently destroyed. Nothing less will answer.

God help us.


22 posted on 12/24/2011 5:25:20 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

I agree. We are spiraling out of control.


23 posted on 12/24/2011 5:26:18 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Bon mots

“The war against white people rolls on. Why is this not a ‘hate crime’?”

Because the shooters are Holder’s People.


24 posted on 12/24/2011 5:27:46 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

And the US is morphing into South Africa. Perhaps there was a tincy wincy bit of truth to what Ron Paul said 20 years ago.


25 posted on 12/24/2011 5:55:49 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: pterional

“If looks could kill” comes true, sort of.


26 posted on 12/24/2011 6:42:12 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: pterional

27 posted on 12/24/2011 7:13:05 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: pterional

Hate(ful looks) crime?

Naw...now if it’d been white on black killing, Jesse Jackson and the Rev Al would be protesting on Fisherman’s Wharf along with a group of Eric Holder’s people...


28 posted on 12/24/2011 7:14:35 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: pterional

From the replies:

Well, if not yesterday, would have gotten them at the Michael Jordan shoe sale.


29 posted on 12/24/2011 7:15:40 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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An Obama/Holder murder. Part racism, part envy. The victims were white and had a vehicle. Holder's constant harping on race and Obama’s call for class war have consequences. Such rhetoric trickles down and the shooters doubtless heard its echoes at home and in their neighborhood. Look for more of this.
Media. If the races were reversed this would be a national story. As it is.........
30 posted on 12/24/2011 7:51:11 AM PST by Godwin1
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To: pterional

There will be a time when civilized humans will have to take out the trash...in order to survive.


31 posted on 12/24/2011 8:02:54 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: pterional
More emBHOLDERned black trash.
32 posted on 12/24/2011 8:06:22 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: pterional
I was driving to the airport one night to pick up my husband. I noticed a black teen on my left side crowding me and giving me “mean looks”. He continued to threaten me and act like he was going to side swipe me until I smiled and waved at him in a (white) grandmotherly fashion.

He finally moved on. All I can figure is that I somehow “dissed him” (isn't that the right word?). Close call he could have shot me!

33 posted on 12/24/2011 8:15:40 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Something similar happened to a friend of mine when we were still living in New Mexico. My friend just ran the guy off the road, practically right into the Rio Grande (this happened on Highway 44/550 in Bernalillo).

He didn’t take crap from anyone.


34 posted on 12/24/2011 8:31:31 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Bon mots

“The war against white people rolls on.

Why is this not a ‘hate crime’?”

The shooters were some of “Holder’s People”. The victims were white and AG Holder has emphatically stated that white Americans are not protected by hate crime laws.

Try to keep up.


35 posted on 12/24/2011 9:30:57 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: Disambiguator
Now that I think about it this was not the first time. Back in the late 60’s I was driving a diesel Mercedes and a guy and a girl obviously stoned out of their minds tried to run me off the road. If you are familiar with old diesel Mercedes they had no pick up power at all. They finally let me alone but it scared the you-know-what out of me!
36 posted on 12/24/2011 9:41:13 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

That is why I always carry a ready 1911 with extra mags in my truck. People are just nucking futs nowdays.


37 posted on 12/24/2011 9:45:09 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SaraJohnson

Certainly not a hate crime.


38 posted on 12/24/2011 9:48:17 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Ditter
It's funny you mention the old diesel Mercedes-es. Our family had two of them. I used to drive the '62 190 D. It looked a lot like this:

You're right about "pickup" being non-existent. They were great for preventing tailgaters, though. No-one wants a snootful of diesel smoke, so people would back off rather quickly. Plus ours would get up to 40 mpg.

39 posted on 12/24/2011 9:52:50 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator
Today I would have my cell phone and I would call the sheriff and give him a description and a license number. That’d fix ‘em!
40 posted on 12/24/2011 11:28:59 AM PST by Ditter
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To: pterional
Two other teens -- Jarrad Beard, 19, and his 16-year-old brother -- were arrested after the shootings. Dyer said the brothers, who were booked on two counts of murder each, are gang members.

"This was a senseless act of violence," Dyer said. "It all stemmed from mean looks, and now two teenagers are dead."


And, hopefully, two others will soon be, too.
42 posted on 12/24/2011 5:58:59 PM PST by aruanan
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And, hopefully, two others will soon be, too.

Nah, the 16-year old, who is not pictured anywhere, is in juvee. He'll be back on the street in no time.

43 posted on 12/24/2011 6:05:37 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sushiman

I’m sure Oprah still believes that there are too many blacks in jail...for no reason...


44 posted on 12/24/2011 10:31:10 PM PST by cherry
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