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Do Muslim Nations Do a Better Job in Fighting Gay Marriage, than Christian Nations?

Posted on 12/28/2011 9:58:49 AM PST by pinochet

Did you know that the Obama administration in the US, and the David Cameron administration in Britain, are threatening to cut off aid to third world nations that do not support gay rights? I do not support foreign aid in principle. But I think that using aid to force gay rights on foreign nations is irresponsible and disgusting. Here are stories on the issue:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15524013

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/06/us-overseas-aid-human-rights

Almost all White Christian nations in Europe and elsewhere, embrace gay civil unions of one sort or another, and some support full gay marriage. In Non-White Christian nations, they view the White Christian nations as the leaders of global Christianity, and the positions taken by Hillary Clinton and David Cameron as representing the official view of the White Christian world.

Most Non-White Christians around the world, are not aware of the existence of the pro-family movement in America, that fights to defend traditional Christian moral values. They do not know that many states in America have rejected gay rights in ballot initiatives. The fight against the radical gay agenda must move beyond American borders, and become global.

Europe has abandoned its leadership of global Christianity, which it held for over 1,500 years. In my opinion, Christianity will not survive in America and around the world, if gay marriage becomes legal in all 50 states in America, via a Supreme Court Decision. America is the last best hope for the survival of global Christianity. If America becomes like Europe, then all hope is lost.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: christianity; culture; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; islam; samesexmarriage; sin
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I think the Christian approach of love and compassion towards gays, has led gays to treat Christians as suckers, and force their minority agenda on the tender-hearted Christians.

But the Muslim approach of unforgiveness and punishment, has created an environment that makes it impossible for gay marriage to become legal in Muslim countries. Given that Muslims are breeding faster than Christians in both European nations and in third world countries, Muslims may outnumber Christians in the future.

Perhaps it is time for American Christians to show some tough love, and refuse to give up one more inch to the aggressive gay lobby.

1 posted on 12/28/2011 9:58:54 AM PST by pinochet
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I agree that Christians have been too easy. They see their actions as loving towards gays, but from a biblical perspective it is not loving to encourage others to live in sin. We are called to love the sinner but to hate the sin. It IS possible to do both.


2 posted on 12/28/2011 10:05:22 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: pinochet

moslems have that whole “man love Thursday” thing going on.
So any moslem condemning queers is a hypocrite of the queerest order...


3 posted on 12/28/2011 10:05:43 AM PST by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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Well, sentencing any homosexual that comes out of the closet to death DOES tend to do a lot to suppress the push for gay marriage...

Which is why I can't understand how anybody can be pro gay rights and pro Islam, like so many left wingers are. The gays are one of the first oppressed when Islam gets a foothold. There was a story recently about how the last gay bar in Dearborn, MI shut down because of constant threats and attacks from the Muslim's in the city. The story barely made a ripple, yet if it had been Christians in Alabama, it would still be topic #1 in the media and the government would be stationing agents outside the bar to insure the safety of the patrons.

4 posted on 12/28/2011 10:07:04 AM PST by apillar
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Christians todays are suckers in the sense of fighting for and defending the faith. We have fallen for the world that says societal morals can’t be tied to any one religion (which is a lie) and when you do that, you get ARBITRARY (ie moral relativism) SOCIETAL LAWS.

The fact people do not understand how destructive and effective the left has been by doing this shows how much Christians don’t know how serious this is. And when you don’t see a problem, you aren’t doing anything to fix it. People are running around trying to plug holes in certain particular issues, but that’s a doctor giving a drug to treat a symptom, not cure the patient.

Not so, long ago. It was not tolerated. It was treated as criminal behavior WHEN DISCOVERED. Realize also that when it was illegal behavior, we did not have people peeking into everyone’s bedrooms or houses proactively looking for it - so don’t fall for anyone’s baseless argument that that’s what you are saying you want. It should be treated as the same as perversion as child molestation, rape and beastiality. If you are a Christian you can see in your Bible it is within these contexts that homosexuality is discussed.


5 posted on 12/28/2011 10:07:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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I’m a dinner jacket said there were no homos in Iran...

I can understand this, though, being as they’ll get beheaded or stoned if they “come out” there.


6 posted on 12/28/2011 10:07:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: chadwimc
YUP! Women are for babies, men are for fun.
7 posted on 12/28/2011 10:07:55 AM PST by PatriotCJC (Keep your powder dry!)
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I’d say that the islamic propensity to behead people, pretty much deters a whole lot of behaviors.


8 posted on 12/28/2011 10:08:38 AM PST by TheConservativeParty ( PRAY FOR AMERICA and donate to your conservative candidate)
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I don't know. We have a muslim in the White House. And he's FOR gay marriages.
 
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9 posted on 12/28/2011 10:09:50 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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Adult male Muslims actions against young boys would make NAMBLA men blush.


10 posted on 12/28/2011 10:11:26 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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>>>moslems have that whole “man love Thursday” thing going on

Homosexual behavior goes on in all countries, but has been historically taboo in all countries. People who did that stuff kept it to themselves, and did not talk about their orientation. But it is only in Western nations where we have the most powerful movements, calling for gay marriages.


11 posted on 12/28/2011 10:12:25 AM PST by pinochet
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Islam isn’t a religion so comparisons to Christian Nations are invalid from the outset.


12 posted on 12/28/2011 10:16:32 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Why do people keep telling me Killcult is a Religion Of Peace?)
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Where are any of these ‘Christian’ nations which you speak of?


13 posted on 12/28/2011 10:17:54 AM PST by Happy Valley Dude
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ROPERS are in bed with tyhe libs and as such they can get away with more heinous crimes against people who are gay and nary a peep is heard in the MSM.

Crimes I may add which end the lives of gays, where as hate crime from the western world against gays is defined as “looking disdainfully at gay folks”.

The MSM is in bed with the ROPERS because the Commies are in bed with the ROPERS.


14 posted on 12/28/2011 10:21:28 AM PST by GraceG
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“Did you know that the Obama administration in the US, and the David Cameron administration in Britain, are threatening to cut off aid to third world nations that do not support gay rights?”

Perhaps, there may be a slight difference between nations such as Canada where gay marriage is legal or Israel where gay marriage is recognized and nations such as Uganda where there has been legislation introduced that would make being gay a crime punishable by death.


15 posted on 12/28/2011 10:22:01 AM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his name on the Va. ballot, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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Almost all White Christian nations in Europe and elsewhere

not Poland or Slovakia or italy or Romania etc.

16 posted on 12/28/2011 10:22:27 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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I shall accept open homosexual marriages here in America about the same time as the Saudi Arabian government shall accept legally binding homosexual unions in their country.

Which would be probably never. Tht travesty known as homosexual “marriage” is just as easily achieved by a persoanl contractual agreement between two consenting adults. And it would have legal standing in the courts, as a civil matter.

No gay bars in Dearborn, Michigan? Why isn’t GLAAD up there protesting? The assorted lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transexxuals are clearly being discriminated against.


17 posted on 12/28/2011 10:23:58 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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The Islamist in chief puts sexual freedoms ahead of religious freedoms. He had the IRS and the Hate Department take on the Florida pastor who wanted to roast a koran yet he has said nothing of the way the Saudi GOVERNMENT seizes privately owned Christian Bibles and burns them every year as forbidden texts.


18 posted on 12/28/2011 10:25:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Since Obama's only challengers in 2012 are in the GOP debates, include him the next 15.)
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Muslims seem to have this love - hate thing going on with homosexuality.


19 posted on 12/28/2011 10:36:31 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: pinochet

Almost all White {sic} Christian nations in Europe and elsewhere, embrace gay civil unions of one sort or another, and some support full gay marriage. In Non-White {sic} Christian nations, they view the White {sic} Christian nations as the leaders of global Christianity, and the positions taken by Hillary Clinton and David Cameron as representing the official view of the White {sic} Christian world.

I doubt that you will find that most “white Christian” nations support gay civil unions or gay marriage.

And I doubt with the exception of Saudi Arabia, who a former president said had an “eternal friendship” with the United States, you will find a nation that is not condemned by the UK and US for egregious violations of human rights.


20 posted on 12/28/2011 10:39:16 AM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his name on the Va. ballot, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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