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From Planes To Trains: TSA Expands Spot Searches To Union Station
CBS Los Angeles ^ | December 27th, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 12/28/2011 5:06:48 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad

An all-too-familiar sight at LAX and the rest of the nation’s airports will soon be coming to the city’s busiest train station.

KNX 1070′s Pete Demetriou reports rail passengers have started seeing Transportation Security Administration on patrol at Union Station on a more frequent basis.

As many as 25 VIPR (Visible Intermodal Prevention & Response) teams began patrolling train stations nationwide last summer conducting an estimated 9,300 “suspicionless” spot searches of travelers.

The agency has said the presence of officers with explosive detection dogs, radiation monitors and other devices will act as a deterrent in the nation’s busiest travel hubs.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; gestapo; groping; searches; sphincterpolic; tsa; viper; vipr; vipre
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thing is govt doesn’t care. It gives them a cover to do this. If it is true or if it isn’t. Either way they can claim it and do it.


21 posted on 12/28/2011 5:48:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: CodeToad

Heh. Good one. And looking more prophetic by the day.


22 posted on 12/28/2011 5:48:28 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“9,300 “suspicionless” spot searches of travelers.”

If the law does not designate secured areas, such as airport checkpoints, a suspicionless search can be refused.
To my knowledge rail or bus is not a secure area.
Furthermore, some of the VIPR searches are of people LEAVING the train.
In such a case you can laugh in their faces and walk away. They cannot conduct a “Terry stop” search of you because you wish to leave a rail station, unless they are sworn law enforcement, and they have reasonable suspicion that a crime is occuring.


23 posted on 12/28/2011 5:50:01 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

They do have something in the works based on the 10 different FEMA regions of the country.


24 posted on 12/28/2011 5:50:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Would you want to bet that the Feds aren’t pointing out the 800lb. gorilla in the room that Muzzies are the ones causing the terrorism for the last 40 years and that the blame has to equally spread around to all citizens therefore justifying the need for VIPER?

Not Muslims, no terrorism.

If we kicked them all out and sent them packing to their Sharia-compliant nation of choice the Left could not use them as an excuse to take away our freedoms and liberties.


25 posted on 12/28/2011 5:50:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I agree, it needs to be abolished. And as you said, it’s how free travel is destroyed.

For the foreseeable future, though, I’d say TSA is here to stay and their powers and duties will only expand (such as these VIPR teams).


26 posted on 12/28/2011 5:51:05 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Sadly, it gives any team that seriously is bent on suitcase-nuking a site a perfect way of distracting from it. Going to bomb Atlanta? Send everyone to Maine.


27 posted on 12/28/2011 5:51:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Where ever the TSA is going I'm going in the opposite direction.The TSA does not provide security.If they did the Underwear bomber would have never got on a plane.
28 posted on 12/28/2011 5:52:12 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher

A bomb sniffing dog would be the best way to catch an underwear bomber, especially if the explosive were actually made into the fabric (no telltale bulk). But, Moose think that dog slobber is ritually unclean. So, no Fido sniffing crotches. Just gropesters.


29 posted on 12/28/2011 5:56:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Secret Agent Man; All

I wouldn’t be surprised one iota.

I figure the next step will be to designate as “secure areas” place where the public gathers, and of course federal highways, maybe train stations, etc.

It’s coming down the line, I’m sure. Just a matter of time.

Closing down....late here in Europe. Have a good one, one and all.


30 posted on 12/28/2011 5:57:10 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: puppypusher

The TSA is kinda like the Keystone Kops.

I can’t blame them for the Underwear Bomber fiasco, though....he got on the plane in Amsterdam, and the TSA’s power doesn’t extend overseas.


31 posted on 12/28/2011 6:01:53 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Your papers, please.


32 posted on 12/28/2011 6:03:42 PM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Where are you going?,why are you going?,must see your papers now.


33 posted on 12/28/2011 6:06:34 PM PST by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad; Secret Agent Man
A related thread posted today:

TSA security measures: worse than useless ["Security Theater"]

Previous threads on TSA's VIPR

TSA screenings aren't just for airports anymore [read this]

Mission Creep: This Tennessee Highway Is Now Patrolled by TSA (VIPR Bites Rail, Bus, Ferries)

Police State TSA is Trucking Right Along

VIPR Searches and the American Citizen: 'Dominate. Intimidate. Control.'

Napolitano’s V.I.P.R. Vows to “Dominate,Intimidate and Control”the American People

34 posted on 12/28/2011 6:08:45 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A bomb sniffing dog would be the best way to catch an underwear bomber, especially if the explosive were actually made into the fabric (no telltale bulk). But, Moose think that dog slobber is ritually unclean. So, no Fido sniffing crotches. Just gropesters.

You know that and so do I.Actually it would be much faster and cheaper to have a trained bomb detection dog and handler working in these airports.

people don’t realise that the amount of explosives these dogs can detect can be as small as a .22 caliber round and when they do detect the explosive they are usually trained to just sit.

So as far as being offensive I say tough cookies.

The TSA as its implemented now is there only to harrass little old ladied,Children and our own troops coming back home.Inept SOB’s,.


35 posted on 12/28/2011 6:08:59 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
"Maybe we’ll have TSA VIPR teams monitoring polling places in November 2012......after all, that’s a large public gathering isn’t it?

I’m not sure whether to add a “sarcasm” or “prophecy” suffix......"

I'll go with prophecy. What an idea. Holder and Napolitano making sure that those who will vote for Obama get expedited, special voting access while the rest of us appear on lists and get the "DOMINATE, INTIMIDATE, CONTROL" treatment from TSA and are strongly discouraged from voting.

36 posted on 12/28/2011 6:13:19 PM PST by Truth29
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Your American passport will soon be worth whatever it is printed upon.


37 posted on 12/28/2011 6:40:11 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: HiTech RedNeck
A bomb sniffing dog would be the best way to catch an underwear bomber

I can't even drive into an airport now because everything I own (except my body, which I definitely do NOT own) is saturated with primer residue.

I want that all gone.

38 posted on 12/28/2011 6:51:09 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: thouworm

For later...


39 posted on 12/28/2011 7:08:20 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Keep the CHRIST in Christmas!!!)
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To: elkfersupper

The poochies can’t tell common gun ammo from things that are used to build bombs? Primer by itself would be useless for an underwear bomb or the like.


40 posted on 12/28/2011 8:06:13 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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