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UK Bishops Come Out Clearly Against Israel "Good will to all men" in UK churches, but not,
INN ^ | 12/28/11 | Giulio Meotti

Posted on 12/28/2011 5:53:45 PM PST by Nachum

The head of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales has offered the Palestinians a powerful tool of propaganda: the comparison with Jesus’ passion.

“We are to be freshly attentive to the needs of those who, like Jesus himself, are displaced and in discomfort”, Archbishop Vincent Nichols said during his Christmas Mass sermon at Westminster Cathedral. “A shadow falls particularly heavily on the town of Bethlehem tonight … We pray for them tonight”.

It would have been more in keeping with Nicholas’ mission to mention hundreds of Christians losing their lives to Islamic terrorism and oppressed by Palestinian Muslim dictatorship.

Nichols’ sermon has an historical value, because now the entire Christian hierarchy in the UK, Catholic and Protestant as well, is part of the global battle against Israel.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agreatapostasy; apostasy; bishops; churches; endtimes; israel; israelis; unitedkingdom
Full title: UK Bishops Come Out Clearly Against Israel "Good will to all men" in UK churches, but not, apparently, to Israelis.
1 posted on 12/28/2011 5:53:50 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Like Jesus? OMG!!! I know the Brits hate Israel, but to compare the murderous falsestinians to Jesus is utter heresy. Damn them. Damn them all.


2 posted on 12/28/2011 6:11:20 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Nachum
At the beginning of the Twentieth Century, Bethlehem and its region were predominantly Christian. At the beginning of the Twenty-First Century, the Christian population has declined to a few percent. The cause of this, not surprisingly, is that the Christian (and other non-Muslim) peoples of that area have been systematically marginalized, persecuted and driven out by the Muslims. The shadow that falls upon Bethlehem, and other areas where Muslims form a majority of the population, is that the Christian Community of Bethlehem, one of the oldest Christian communities in the world, has been all but extinguished from existence. The Archbishop is serving the interests of the Islamists and betraying his duty to his own flock.

Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!
3 posted on 12/28/2011 6:14:50 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: MestaMachine
Man oh man, what's going on with the catholic church?

It's just one misstep after another.

Not so long ago, the pope had some edict regarding the creation of some U.N. body...forget the whole story, but it was kinda creepy.

Something like a world financial system or something.

4 posted on 12/28/2011 6:19:34 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Nachum
"Good will to all men" in UK churches, but not, apparently, to Israelis.

These would be Anglican, not Catholic churches, as they use the mistranslated passage, Luke 2:14, from the King James Bible.

5 posted on 12/28/2011 6:31:41 PM PST by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: Nachum

it’s happened time and again. When it comes to Jews, Israel, the worst of enemies become the best of friends.


6 posted on 12/28/2011 6:38:26 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:The bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa.)
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To: Nachum

I think this is a job for Sir Jonathan Sacks, chief Rabbi of the Orthodox in the UK. While in past Archbishop Williams has tried to suck up to him, Sacks should put his foot down and declare what they have done to be intolerable.

Williams is always meeching when called out, though he will always continue with the leftist agenda.

Probably the best way for Sacks to do this is to appeal to the African Anglican diocese, the most powerful Anglican diocese, who have already put the Church of England and the US Episcopalian church on notice for their heterodoxies and outright heresies.

Many of the African Anglican diocese have been terribly oppressed, and even murdered by Muslims, so they will have little or no sympathy to Muslims oppressing and murdering others. This includes the Jews. Nor will they have any respect for Anglicans embracing such oppressors as themselves oppressed.


7 posted on 12/28/2011 6:44:37 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Nachum; MestaMachine; ConorMacNessa; servantboy777; Ozone34; lbryce; yefragetuwrabrumuy; All
“We are to be freshly attentive to the needs of those who, like Jesus himself, are displaced and in discomfort”, Archbishop Vincent Nichols said during his Christmas Mass sermon at Westminster Cathedral. “A shadow falls particularly heavily on the town of Bethlehem tonight … We pray for them tonight”.

Talk about deceptive reporting. Geez.

here is the full text of his homily. Read it for yourself. Here is a pertinent extract so it can be read without the heavy ellipses...

So, tonight, as we ponder this sacred birth, we are also to reflect on the duty that goes with this gift, this privilege of faith. Our faith in God, our awareness of God's unfailing love, brings with it responsibility and obligation. There is, with faith, an accompanying question: 'What am I to do?'

Three things.

We are to see clearly the reality of the world around us. As we look at the real circumstances of Christ's birth so too we look with fresh eyes on the anxieties and insecurity which touch many peoples' lives. We are to be freshly attentive to the needs of those who, like Jesus himself, are displaced and in discomfort. We are to see more clearly all those things which disfigure our world, the presence of the sins of greed and arrogance, of self-centred ambition and manipulation of others, of the brutal lack of respect for human life in all its vulnerability. While recognising how complex moral dilemmas can become, we are to name these things for what they are. We too live 'in a land of deep shadow.'

That shadow falls particularly heavily on the town of Bethlehem tonight. At this moment the people of the parish of Beit Jala prepare for their legal battle to protect their land and homes from further expropriation by Israel. Over 50 families face losing their land and their homes as action is taken to complete the separation/security wall across the territory of the district of Bethlehem. We pray for them tonight.

Then, secondly, we are to look with fresh wonder at those closest to us, seeing again their goodness and their loyalty, their readiness to forgive and their desire to care for us. In offering our 'yes' to the Lord, we are to respond together with kindness and forgiveness, with generosity and compassion to those in need. Together we become, day by day, an instrument of Christ's continuing mission in our world, even to imitating his self-sacrificing love for others. In the words of St Paul we are to be a people with 'no ambition except to do good.'

St Paul also points to the third aspect of our task. He tells us that hope is the key. We live in a world in which the prospects for the future, in the terms the world can offer, are distinctly shaky. Yet we find an unshakable hope in our Saviour. As we celebrate his birth we remember that he is to come again. And it is this coming that gives us our enduring hope. St Paul tells us that we can only fulfil the duties of faith if we are a people who 'are waiting in hope for the blessings which will come with the appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Christ Jesus.'

You can read the rest at the link above.

So the Archbishop was bemoaning the plight of Palestinian Christians (Catholics) who were going to lose their homes for the security fence.

That is REALLY, BIG TIME, coming out against Israel, right?

Give me a break.

8 posted on 12/28/2011 6:47:47 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: Ozone34
Anglican writer maybe, but Westminster Cathedral is Catholic.
9 posted on 12/28/2011 6:51:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: markomalley

“So the Archbishop was bemoaning the plight of Palestinian Christians (Catholics) who were going to lose their homes for the security fence.”

Nice to have the clarification.

But, OTOH, has the Archbishop ever suggested prayers for the hundreds wounded and maimed by terrorists (whom the wall is designed to defend against)?


10 posted on 12/28/2011 7:06:15 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Nachum

“now the entire Christian hierarchy in the UK, Catholic and Protestant as well, is part of the global battle against Israel.”

Reading the news is getting to be like reading the Prophets.


11 posted on 12/28/2011 7:07:35 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: Nachum

The real “Palestinians” are Catholic and Orthodox Christians who have lived there for centuries, most recently under British protection. I believe that several highly important Catholic hierarchs, including John Paul II, fail to appreciate that the Israeli nation is fighting for survival and their repressive tactics are necessitated by the Muslims whom the media falsely calls “Palestinians.” Nonetheless, caught in the crossfire, the Christian Palestinians are subject to more to the Israeli oppressive reprisals than the Palestinian terrorism which necessitates them. The Jews regard such Christians as the enemy, drawing no distinction between the Muslim terrorists who would drive them into the sea and the Christians who should be able to join them in their pursuit of freedom.


12 posted on 12/28/2011 7:29:55 PM PST by dangus
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To: markomalley

Thank you.


13 posted on 12/28/2011 9:30:19 PM PST by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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Thanks Nachum.
14 posted on 12/28/2011 9:45:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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15 posted on 12/29/2011 4:37:16 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims¬óDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: MestaMachine

No, most British people couldnt give a monkeys about Israel or the Palestinians.

Frankly, most British are so sick of the hatred and the terrorism that they stopped caring long ago. And to dislike someone, you have to actually be interested enough to do so.
The British simply dont care enough either way.

The only Brits who actively dislike Israel are the hard left and the BNP neo-nazi types of the right.


16 posted on 12/29/2011 9:31:51 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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