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We won't eat halal meat, say MPs and peers who reject demands to serve it at Westminster
Mail on Sunday ^ | 1/1/2012 | CHRIS HASTINGS

Posted on 01/01/2012 3:18:46 AM PST by markomalley

The Palace of Westminster has rejected demands to serve halal meat in its restaurants.

Muslim MPs and peers have been told they cannot have meat slaughtered in line with Islamic tradition because the method – slitting an animal’s throat without first stunning it – is offensive to many of their non-Muslim colleagues.

The stance has infuriated some parliamentarians who have eaten meat in the Palace’s 23 restaurants and cafes, having been assured that it was halal.

Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said: ‘I did feel misled. I think a halal option should be made available.’

In 2010, the Mail on Sunday revealed schools, hospitals and restaurants were serving halal meat to unwitting customers.

Waitrose, Marks & Spencer, Sainsbury’s, Tesco, Somerfield and the Co-op all said they stocked meat slaughtered according to Islamic tradition without letting customers know.

Fast-food chains including Domino’s Pizza, Pizza Hut, KFC, ­Nando’s and Subway are also using halal meat without ­telling customers, it was revealed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; halal
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To: patriot08

Maybe this is why Soros is buying up all those grain elevators.


21 posted on 01/01/2012 4:50:49 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: trebb

The point is that halal is appeasing the muslimes. It is one more step to doing things their way. That is the problem and that is the point.


22 posted on 01/01/2012 4:54:03 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Dr. Thorne
From the Acts of the Council of Jerusalem (50 AD):

Acts 15:22 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren, 23 with the following letter: "The brethren, both the apostles and the elders, to the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greeting. 24 Since we have heard that some persons from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, 25 it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the sake of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."

For the life of me, I cannot understand how any Christian can bring himself to eating meat sacrificed to the false moon god.

23 posted on 01/01/2012 4:54:37 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: yank in the UK

A burka does away with bad hair days, and saves on clothing expences but I am old and a cheapskate. :O)


24 posted on 01/01/2012 4:55:21 AM PST by goat granny
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To: markomalley

Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, seen during the debate.

25 posted on 01/01/2012 5:00:42 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

BINGO!


26 posted on 01/01/2012 5:01:51 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: markomalley
I think a halal option should be made available

It is available in whatever 3rd worls $#!^hole you came from you camel humping douchebag... so go back there and halal youself silly.

27 posted on 01/01/2012 5:05:24 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: markomalley

I didn’t know this:

“The conventional method used to slaughter the animal involves cutting the large arteries in the neck along with the esophagus and vertebrate trachea with one swipe of an non-serrated blade. Care must be taken that the nervous system is not damaged, as this may cause the animal to die before exsanguination has taken place. While blood is draining, the animal is not handled until it has died. If any other method is used its meat will not be halal...

...Stunning the animal with a bolt-gun, as is the standard practice in FDA-approved slaughtering houses, may cause instantaneous death. Muslims regard meat from such a slaughter to be haraam, considering such meat as carrion. It is for these reasons that there are ongoing questions and conversations within the North American Muslim community as to whether meat processed in these slaughter houses meet the standard of ‘Halal’ (as opposed to D_abi-h.ah). At center of this debate is the doubt as to whether this meat could qualify under the Allowed category of the food of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians). The first consideration being that standard slaughtering methods could cause the animal to die in a way other than slaughter (death through exsanguination), and, secondly, given that the actual slaughter may not be performed by a member of any one of the three Abrahamic religions.

Debates still rage among Muslim jurists and the general Muslim population about whether or not stunning, anaesthetics, or other forms of inducing unconsciousness in the animal prior to slaughter are permissible as per Islam. Several halal food authorities have more recently permitted the use of a recently developed fail-safe system of head-only stunning where the shock is less painful and non-fatal, and where it is possible to reverse the procedure and revive the animal after the shock...

...In the United Kingdom, the government funded but independent advisory body Farm Animal Welfare Council recommended that conventional Dabihah (along with Kashrut slaughter) without prior stunning be abolished. The FAWC chairwoman of the time, Dr Judy MacArthur Clark, said, “This is a major incision into the animal and to say that it doesn’t suffer is quite ridiculous”. According to Dr Peter Jinman, president of the British Veterinary Association, vets are “looking at what is acceptable in the moral and ethical society we live.”

From Wikipedia

That is disgusting. Doing it that way when no better way existed in one thing, doing it still is obscene.

Not too surprising, tho, for an evil religion like Islam.


28 posted on 01/01/2012 5:05:43 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Scotsman will be Free
The point is that halal is appeasing the muslimes. It is one more step to doing things their way. That is the problem and that is the point.

That is the real point, but many are also touting the cruely side of things - my post was addressed to them. I also happen to believe that many "halal" suppliers are fibbing and using more conventional slaughter methods - joke's on the muzzies.

Just for the record; do you oppose the preparation of Kosher products? I understand that 99% of the world's terrorists are Muslims, but there are still a few with the mistaken perception that they are practicing a religion with a real God instead of the god they pray to - not everyone is our enemy. How about enough halal to feed them?

29 posted on 01/01/2012 5:06:24 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: eastforker

Whats the big deal? The Christian butcher goes out of business while the muslim butcher makes lots of money.

I for one prefer to eat food which has not been dedicated to evil.

Halal means more than cutting the animals throat.


30 posted on 01/01/2012 5:08:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: trebb

Perhaps we should all tell the muzzies we’ve converted to Islam to make them happy and just worship Jesus in our homes.

The joke will be on them. /s


31 posted on 01/01/2012 5:09:24 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: markomalley


32 posted on 01/01/2012 5:17:38 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit)
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To: trebb

I don’t care if some folks are against the practice simply because of the cruelty factor. The more the merrier when it comes to being against the muslimes.
The Jews aren’t trying to force everyone into becoming Jewish so I’m not concerned with how they prepare their chow.
As for muslimes, yes, every single, solitary one of them are our enemies. Make no mistake about that.


33 posted on 01/01/2012 5:20:28 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: markomalley

slitting an animal’s throat without first stunning it – is offensive to many of their non-Muslim colleagues.

But slitting the throat of a child in an honor killing, stoning women, mutilating thier genitals at age 7, lopping off heads, using children strapped with explosives, and physically and mentally abusing women is acceptable. The cult lives on and our politicians encourage and support it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCfbYkXtHuA&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL45389F285F616587


34 posted on 01/01/2012 5:21:41 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Mr Rogers
You left off one important part about

Just before the animal is sacrificed to the moon god, the butcher must utter, "Bismillah al Raḥmān Al Raḥīm" -- otherwise, it is not halal:

So I do not see how any Christian could intentionally eat halal meat.

35 posted on 01/01/2012 5:22:09 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Anyone know if kosher food is served at the restaurants? Just curious.


36 posted on 01/01/2012 5:35:04 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: markomalley

It’s not just about the way the animal is killed, it’s that the food is blessed in the name of Allah.

If anyone says grace over their food, (yes you, Christians) than you seem to take blessing food seriously. I know I do. And I don’t want to eat something that was killed in the name of Allah.


37 posted on 01/01/2012 5:41:07 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Agreed. See post #23 for why it is offensive to Christians.

See post #35 that confirms your assertion.


38 posted on 01/01/2012 5:42:22 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: Jonty30

-——also known as Beelzebub, ———

Only by fanatic bigots


39 posted on 01/01/2012 5:51:12 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

“Halal is appeasing the muslimes...that is the problem.”

Bottom line money quote. Live by it!


40 posted on 01/01/2012 5:52:25 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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