Posted on 01/02/2012 3:58:38 PM PST by Ordinary_American
AN OPEN LETTER TO STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO BLOCK OBAMA FROM THE BALLOT
Sir, Ma’am,
Natural born citizenship was clearly defined in the Supreme Court holding Minor vs. Happersett (1875). It was a case about women’s suffrage, and in order to determine if Minor was allowed to vote, they had to define her citizenship. They said she was a natural born citizen because she was born in the US of citizen parents. It is a binding precedent that has never been superseded by any other Supreme Court holding or Constitutional Amendment and, therefore, supersedes all statutory law.
As you may know, the natural born term was well known during the time of the writing of the Constitution from Vattel’s “Law of Nations” (1758) stating “natural-born citizens are those born in a country of citizen parents” (Volume 1, Chapter 19, Section 212).
The issue at the time of the adoption of the Constitution was dual allegiance. The Founders were afraid that a British aristocrat might usurp the office of President (or Vice President) and steer the US back to the British Empire. The term natural born citizen only applies to those two offices and it is no accident that every post-Revolutionary Era President was a natural born citizen except Obama and Chester A. Arthur, who also lied about his background.
British law made Barack Obama a British subject by birth because his father was a British subject and then a Kenyan citizen after independence. Obama chose to let his Kenyan citizenship lapse on or about his 23rd birthday (Kenyan law).
The definition of natural born citizenship provided by many media outlets is wrong. Natural born citizenship is a combination of jus soli (born within the territory of the state or commonwealth) and jus sanguinis (citizenship through the parents’ citizenship status) not either/or.
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“The issue at the time of the adoption of the Constitution was dual allegiance. The Founders were afraid that a British aristocrat might usurp the office of President (or Vice President) and steer the US back to the British Empire.”
Absolute BS.
“The issue at the time of the adoption of the Constitution was dual allegiance. The Founders were afraid that a British aristocrat might usurp the office of President (or Vice President) and steer the US back to the British Empire.”
Absolute BS.
Really? Please tell us all why that isn’t a truthful comment. Inquiring minds want to know.
We have no certainty as to whom the real parents of Barack Hussein Obama are. There is reason to suspect that the adolescent Stanley Anne Dunham never actually consummated her marriage with Barack Hussein Obama, and that in fact, she was possibly pregnant with another man’s child (some have suggested Frank Marshall Davis). Another possibility is that the individual designated as “Barack Hussein Obama II” or alternatively as “Barry Soetero” is not Stanley Anne Dunham’s child at all, but that Stanley Anne had faked the entire pregnancy, to cover up the origin of a child fathered by her own father, Stanley Dunham, and an unknown mother. Thus Stanley Anne and Barack would be half-siblings, not mother and son. That might be an explanation for some of the mysterious movements between Hawaii and Seattle, Washington shortly after the time of the presumed birth.
I want to see some DNA evidence.
Most Obots are more eloquent, but Jacquerie’s rebuttel is typical.
Too bad the representatives for Colonel Lakin were not so concise as is Colonel Sellin, but the JAG Corp clearly had its orders to deflect questions about Obama’s eligibility at all costs. Lawyers and pundits will protect what they have. They have families too. We have seen the truth that adherance to the Constitution is a political choice, and we are paying the price for permitting the dismissal of enumerated rights which would have constrained a government with access to our pockets, our labor, and our health.
Colonel Sellin has presented what is sufficient. That is the discipline of a leader. That he didn't embellish his clear statement with more of the history is probably the right tactic. For those of us for whom finding the truth, given the thoroughness of Soros’ minions, Center For American Progress associates who re-wrote Supreme Court case decisions to hide citations to Minor v. Happersett, law schools like Cornell which published abridged Supreme Court cases such as Ex Parte Lockwood, legal “scholars” like Larry Tribe who talk about natural born citizenship without mentioning the two Chief Justices who clarified the common-law and made the positive law - precedence - Marshall and Waite.
We won't forget the truth. Let's see how many continue to perpetuate the big lie, including all the complicit Republicans who were outmaneuvered by the Democrats. Republicans didn't dare vet Obama because eliminating Obama meant Dems would point to U of Arizona Professor Gabriel Chin's excellent essay, almost a brief, explaining McCain's ineligibility. That would have left the Republican facing Hillary, with no strong candidate ready to oppose her. Very clever! Leo Donofrio was also probably correct that, while he found and published the evidence of Chester Arthur's ineligibility, Arthur, like Obama, having been born to a natural born citizen and a British subject, Democrats may already have had the information. That they thoroughly purged the Internet if published Supreme Court cases, at least twenty six of them, which indicated that Minor was established and recognized precedence, is clear evidence that they knew and understood the truth, and exactly what they needed to conceal from those not on board to delay the discovery that there has long been precedence. It explains why Wong Kim Ark's Justice Gray's first citation is to Minor v. Happersett, and whey Wong Kim was a "Native born" and not a "natural born" citizen.
Thanks Colonel Sellin.
This is legal and historic hogwash.
Aomg many other problems with it, Minor defines one person as a NBC. It is moot on who is not.
There are a lot of politicians who needed to be defeated on the basis of their birthright (all of the Kennedys come to mind).
Politics is the theatre of ideas, ideologies and policies. Obama's are contradictory to those under which this nation was founded. He has no opposition within his own party. There is no viable 3rd party.
I realize that my choices to oppose Obama have been winnowed down to a couple of career politicians, a RINO or four, a theocrat or two and an old guy whose concept of liberty scares almost everybody, but those are the choices.
The birthers need to give up on the notion that anything is ever going to come of that question and pick the goofball of their choice to oppose the sitting POTUS.
If for some unlikely reason I am in the company of our very highest military leaders I will turn my back. I will shun them.
Is this how these glittering and beribboned weenies watch the back of the amazingly courageous and honorable troops serving under them? Is ignoring fraud, identity theft, failure to e-verify, multiple social security numbers, FORGERIES of birth documents, and usurpation of the office of Commander in Chief now the standard for the military code of honor. Is **this** what they now teach in our military academies? Is this how they uphold their oath before God to defend the Constitution?
How many men have been killed or severely wounded because of a usurper Commander in Chief's rules of engagement and political posturing in withdrawing troops for maximum election leverage? Why doesn't God strike they with lightning when they salute our brave and honorable troops? Why don't their wither into a pile of dust when facing the love one of those killed under the command of a usurper?
Sorry! I am convinced given the failure these glittering and beribboned weenies to ask congress and/or the courts for certifiable evidence the Obama is a natural born citizen and is who he says he is, is a disgrace. These men treat the Constitution like a balled up wad of used Kleenex.
Our nation and **especially** our brave, highly trained, dedicated, and honorable troops deserve better, so does the Constitution and the American people.
While Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico, he was born to two American citizens and thus was an American citizen at birth - jus sanguinis. Thus Mitt Romney was born in the US to two American citizens, and thus would presumably qualify as a natural-born citizen.
Political correctness enables a black skin to trump the constitution, the law, legal precedent, common sense and informed judgement.
“Another possibility is that the individual designated as “Barack Hussein Obama II” or alternatively as “Barry Soetero” is not Stanley Anne Dunham’s child at all, but that Stanley Anne had faked the entire pregnancy, to cover up the origin of a child fathered by her own father, Stanley Dunham, and an unknown mother. Thus Stanley Anne and Barack would be half-siblings, not mother and son. That might be an explanation for some of the mysterious movements between Hawaii and Seattle, Washington shortly after the time of the presumed birth.”
And in 1961 there was a man named Jimi Hendrix who also lived is Seattle. And it is quite possible that Jimi Hendrix is the actual father of Obama.
You boys have it backwards. You show me (it doesn’t exist) where the Framers in Philadelphia expressed fear of the return of a British monarch.
Hey Knucklehead, check my posting history.
Just seems odd in a country mostly made up of originalist definition Natural Born Citizens, that the last few Presidential candidates, McCain, obama and possibly Romney, haven't been.
I understand it's just the Constitution, so it's not like it's important or anything, but I can't help but wonder why we can't at least try to follow it after a couple hundred years of swearing oaths to defend it instead of undermining it for political convenience.
I’ll see your scenario and raise you one.
Trump succeeds in having non-NBC candidates removed from the ballots.
Who’s left on the ballot?
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