Posted on 01/03/2012 10:23:53 AM PST by emax
I thought this would be interesting to share with all fans and supporters of Rubio here and all those who think only leftist Democrats and leftists disguised as Republicans supported this bill. Thought it would be interesting to see a Conservative perspective of support for the bill, admist all the claims that this was something done by Obama to start to create a Communist regime. This has been posted in replies to other posts before but I thought it was deserving of its own thread, so here it is.
I believe that Allen West voted fot it also. Freeper seekthe truth should be knowledgeable on this. Prthaps they could enlighten us. Or me.
It's wrong when Obama supports it. It was wrong when Bush did, too.
Actually, I supported Rubio then and I support him now and did not at all intend to get anyone to relinquish support for Rubio. And his support for this and explanation did help to assauge some fo my earlier concerns. I was only trying to enumerate how this bill was not something that Obama and friends created and passed on their own-it did have support from leaders that are respected as true conservatives-and true defenders of American freedoms. Other people might say that they are now traitors, but their support for this bill should also suggest that maybe this bill is not an attempt to give our administration brand new unconstitutional powers that didnt exist before.
Yes West voted for it and so did many many other so called republicans. They all love the power and the control. Don’t be fooled into thinking that your republican senator or congressman does not want to retain their power to ignore you just the way the Dems do. Lets face it 535 people have hijacked this country and are doing what they darn well please. Changing this back is going to be a real fight and some of the enemy are in our own party. Sad but true.
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Ooops! Apologies for the double-posting!!
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“Simply put, the application of this detention requirement is limited to Al-Qaeda members that have tried to attack the US or its allies. However, this detention requirement is clearly limited by a clause that states that the requirement to detain does not extend to US citizens or lawful permanent residents.”
All-American Muslims aside, what does this law say about Muslims who are American citizens but who are either aware of/engaged in/providing support of 1) belligerent acts in our country or 2) working toward undermining our Constitution by installing sharia law ?
There is no way to defend this bill.
Don’t be alarmist here!
It is not these laws, specifically designed to fight terror that we need to be concerned about.
Rather it is ill motivated leadership, willing to ignore and bypass any and all laws to implement their agenda that should concern us all.
No law should be acceptable to a citizen of this nation because they trust that the current leadership will not abuse it.
The law must be written such that the worst abuser of the rights of the citizenry cannot use that law to impose a restriction of our rights that is not permitted by the Constitution.
What was in the language of the remainder of the law that was so important, that a vote to hold citizens without trial indefinitely is an acceptable compromise?
Why was this law needed in this appropriations bill?
The answer is simple and frightening. All those who voted for it, wanted it there.
Is this a road we want to travel?
This is a mistake of the most grievous kind, whether you are conservative, liberal, socialist, nationalist, Republican, Independent, or Democrat.
And none of the candidates for office have said a word about it.
We have lost the ability to even recognize the demolition of our rights.
God help my children and future generations, who have given away so much, purchased so dearly, without comment, objection, or even notice.
Thank you!
the law isn’t limited to Al Queda
Alarmist? I notice you didn't say "incorrect".
It is not these laws, specifically designed to fight terror that we need to be concerned about.
If you think these laws won't be used beyond Al-Qaeda & other legitimate terrorists then you trust your government far more than I do. Look up how often the USA PATRIOT Act has been used for drug cases. That is but one of many examples.
Rather it is ill motivated leadership, willing to ignore and bypass any and all laws to implement their agenda that should concern us all.
All the leadership of both parties is ill-motivated. These laws become their tools & that's why they should be opposed from the start. It's not enough to say don't worry about the laws, it's the politicians. You can not separate one from the other.
I understand. Your social security card/ number was never going to be used for identification purposes either.
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