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Robert E. Lee: Remembering an American Legend
Huntington News ^ | January 4, 2012 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 01/04/2012 4:35:41 PM PST by BigReb555

Thursday, January 19, 2012, is the 205th birthday of General Robert E. Lee, whose memory is still dear in the hearts of people everywhere.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: american; confederate; dixie; union
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Not assuming, but in the Cumberland plateau- Missouri and Kansas this went back and forth-- unionists who were not (or were) confederates who were not (or were and the bushwackers and the jayhawks. Men like Quantrill, Bloody Bill Anderson and the horrific union Gen. Thomas Ewing- who ordered the total depopulation of 3 Missouri counties on the Kansas border (regardless whether they were unionists or confederates) under his General Order No. 11-- the redlegs scourge. Ewing never had to answer for this criminal order, which destroyed thousands of lives and fostered hatred for decades- he should have been executed.

In many areas of the country there was a great degree of lawlessness, and for your family I am sorry. Mine had our entire property stolen-everything; the stock, food stores, seed grain, hams, furnishings, silver, crystal and the home burned to the ground. This was done by regular union soldiers,not bummers or renegades & a commander whose family mercifully died out when he was killed by the defense militia (I say mercifully, because my g-g-g uncle swore he would make certain the man had no descendants). It took some 25 years to start over and recover.

There were many strata of "ordinary" Confederates who suffered- and there were far more pernicious abuses of Confederates in Reconstruction and unneeded divisions that redounded to the poorest of them by the vicious union occupation. Such that Rutherford Hayes was only allowed to be elected by removing the damn troops in the 1877 Compromise.

Might makes right does not change the unconstitutional outcome-my opinion. The assumption that I have some lost cause advocacy (which appears to derive from the "poor man fighting the rich man's war" argument), is quite understandable (though untrue) when viewed through your family's experiences. What upsets me is the current resurgence of this kind of dictatorial central government and presidency- acting without regard to law, as before. Hence, my tagline.

61 posted on 01/05/2012 5:48:11 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: BigReb555

The man took up arms against his own country. He killed fellow Americans, North and South. Lee was no great American.


62 posted on 01/05/2012 6:36:10 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa
The man took up arms against his own country. He killed fellow Americans, North and South. Lee was no great American.

And I would say either are you.

63 posted on 01/05/2012 11:50:40 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: starlifter; jmacusa; Colonel Kangaroo; rockrr; MikefromOhio
The Milwaukee Sentinel – May 5th, 1958

Ike Pays Tribute to Lee

Stratford, Va, May 4th (INS)

President Eisenhower paid tribute to Robert E. Lee Sunday by declaring the Confederate general and his forebears were men of “vision and courage” needed in the world now.

The Chief Executive spoke briefly at annual ceremonies at Stratford hall, Virginia Mansion where Lee was born.

Mr. Eisenhower said Lee and his ancestor, Thomas Lee, who built Stratford, lived in an economy which was self-contained. He noted this in no longer holds true today and that every American is dependent on other peoples.

Of the Lees, Mr. Eisenhower said: “They were men of vision and courage and they would not have shrunk from the duties that would make America what they wanted it to be.”

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Commerce Secretary Weeks- A New Englander – delivered the formal main speech.

Weeks Said: “Robert E. Lee’s great impact on modern America is his character, probably greater in defeat than it might have been in triumph. Its moral luster continues to influence his countrymen for good long after his death”

64 posted on 01/06/2012 12:21:33 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I wouldn’t waste time with the usual jackasses here.

History is legion with folks who admired Lee from his adversaries on the field(Grant) to European martial experts (Churchill) and so forth.

These clowns are so hung up on the “negro” aspect of our past they wouldn’t know an Amos and Andy DVD collection if it hit them on the head.

they are barely indistinguishable from regular liberals who think America and by extension Western Civilization are both one big crime against humanity...minorities and women in particular.


65 posted on 01/06/2012 12:32:58 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt...now Santorum?......Capt Trips could not say it better)
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To: central_va

So what?

That doesn’t remove the stain of TREASON against the United States from Lee’s career.

The man was a great officer who chose the wrong side and he had to live and die with the decision. The man himself was good enough to realize it. Unfortunately those of you who want to rewrite history do the man injustice by pulling this crap out again and again and again and again adnauseam.

I’m still waiting on ANY OF YOU to actually do something beside post on an internet forum.


66 posted on 01/06/2012 12:57:25 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: central_va; jmacusa
And I would say either are you.

And coming from someone like you, internet tough guy, I'd take that as a compliment.
67 posted on 01/06/2012 12:58:39 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: mac_truck
Nice try.

The Republicans didn't control Congress in the session that preceded Lincoln's election, nor did they in the Congress before that. The Speaker of the House was a Democrat from South Carolina, the Senate President was from a Democrat Kentucky. Both supported slavery.


Now now, don't bring sense, logic or historical fact into a Civil War Truther thread. All that will get you is attacked or even better, threatened by one of them (which is hilarious BTW)....
68 posted on 01/06/2012 1:06:10 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: central_va

Oh, I’m wounded! Oh death where is they sting. Screw you.


69 posted on 01/06/2012 3:49:18 AM PST by jmacusa
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To: starlifter; jmacusa; Colonel Kangaroo; rockrr; MikefromOhio
Message from the Supreme Allied Commander for the Free Republic Lincoln Coven:

Dear Dr. Scott:

Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War Between the States the issue of Secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.

General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation.He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower


70 posted on 01/06/2012 6:00:35 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
And this means? He was a traitor and a loser.
71 posted on 01/06/2012 6:31:10 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: central_va
He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America

Well, I'm glad he at least got right that the Civil War settled the supposed validity of unilateral secession.

72 posted on 01/06/2012 6:41:50 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: central_va

If the CSA came into existence again—My bet would be on Herman Cane as the next president of the Confederacy.


73 posted on 01/06/2012 1:28:08 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: central_va

Ike won wars. I don’t agree with the man’s opinion of Robert E. Lee. Whats your point? The Stars and Stripes just aren’t good enough for you, are they Reb?


74 posted on 01/06/2012 3:26:11 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa
The Stars and Stripes just aren’t good enough for you, are they Reb?

No, it's you who is pathetic and unworthy to be my countrymen.

I really don't care what flag flies, as long as it flies over a republic with the same principles as given/designed by our founders. It could be a John Deere flag, it doesn't matter.

75 posted on 01/06/2012 3:37:02 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

So I’m, ‘’pathetic’’ and ‘’unworthy’’ to be your countrymen’’. Bwahahahaha!! Wow, I sure do get a lot of free parking in your head . You’re a tool.


76 posted on 01/06/2012 7:02:47 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

The only thing you and the Lincoln Coven are worthy of is licking the bottom of the Federal Boot.


77 posted on 01/06/2012 7:42:54 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; All

Someone wake me up when Central_traitor says something new or useful....I figure I’m going to catch up on ALL of the sleep I’ve missed since my daughter was born nearly 5 years ago.....


78 posted on 01/06/2012 9:26:33 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: central_va; jmacusa
The only thing you and the Lincoln Coven are worthy of is licking the bottom of the Federal Boot.

Hur hur hur you even talk like a real wannabe Confederate....
79 posted on 01/06/2012 9:27:50 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: MikefromOhio

Ain’t he the most? “Johnny Reb wannabes, that’s what I call ‘em ‘’Mike’’. I’d love to have a time machine and drop one of these Reb-wannabe’s back in 1861. I’ll guarantee you in fifteen minutes they’ll be screaming like banshees to get the hell out of there!


80 posted on 01/06/2012 9:40:58 PM PST by jmacusa
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