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Police kill 8th-grader with gun at Texas school
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, January 5, 2012 | Christopher Sherman

Posted on 01/05/2012 6:39:22 AM PST by VU4G10

Brownsville, Texas -- Police shot and killed an eighth-grader in the hallway of his middle school Wednesday after the boy brandished what looked like a handgun and pointed it at officers. It turned out to be a pellet gun that closely resembled the real thing

"Jaime was not a bad kid," she said. "I'm not saying he was perfect or an angel, but he was a very giving person."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
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To: Lion Den Dan; Don W; servantboy777
Perhaps a well placed shot to the hip or leg.

You must be new. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Don W and serventboy777 get the retard posts of the day. DUMBEST STATEMENTS TODAY! I guess Mommy and Daddy are at work today and left the children free reign of the "internets".

Don W and serventboy777 and their ilk need to be lurkers on subjects they have absolutely no concept of. I bet they are either liberals or Yankee elitists ;)

Please leave self-defense, legal issues, Constitutional freedoms, inalienable rights, RKBA, use of force continuums, and other complex subject matter to the experts. They are as over their head on these subjects as our "president" is on leadership.

61 posted on 01/05/2012 10:06:07 AM PST by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: ridesthemiles
I get it, just because they wear a uniform, they can do no wrong. Ok, got it.

The kid was wrong. He was shot and killed because he used poor judgment. If he'd not have had the pellet pistol, he'd probably be alive today.

With that said, I personally believe the cops could have brought him down without killing him. It's apparent that most of y'all don't believe the cops were able to render a logical call on this.

Recently, a black teenager (burglary suspect) was cornered by police. Cool, cops got their man.

What happened next went too far. But in y’alls eyes, the cops had a right to take it that far. Afterall, the kid ran from them.

After cuffing the teenager, on his belly, arms behind him, several officers holding him down, began punching and kicking the kid.

The union first attempted to cover for the cops, that is until....

...they found a camera mounted on a building nearby that caught it all.

62 posted on 01/05/2012 10:06:23 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Don’t be such a ass....

Your 2 instances are not alike.

God help you if YOU or yours are caught up in such a situation.

You will never be able to replace the wardrobe you will soil.


63 posted on 01/05/2012 10:08:52 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: servantboy777
Lots of y'all would be ok with this the measure of force against a little old lady. She’z holding a gun as well, why don't we just cap her?

I missed the part where she took it to a middle school and pointed it at police officers.

64 posted on 01/05/2012 10:10:39 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: DCBryan1
DCBrayan is hereby awarded the sanctimonious freeper award.

Don't be so juvenile.

65 posted on 01/05/2012 10:17:07 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: ridesthemiles

Actually, a pellet gun is a REAL gun...Many kids in the south grow up squirrel hunting with a pellet gun...Check ballistics on pellet weapons...600-1,000 ft per sec...25-40 ft lbs of energy...Anywhere from 6-9 inches of penetration in animal flesh...


66 posted on 01/05/2012 10:17:33 AM PST by Boonie
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To: ConservaTexan; Don W; servantboy777
And the award for most ignorant post of all time goes to...
servantboy777, January 5, 2012

NOPE! Don W beat servantboy777 to the punch for an even more moronic statement on this thread (post #5): See post 5, and my award to him at post 57

Oh, and here is a picture of them together:


67 posted on 01/05/2012 10:17:36 AM PST by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: servantboy777
Don't be so juvenile.

ROFLMAO! Like your your enlightening, well thought out, logical, and educated response in post number 5?

You are a few cards short of a full deck methinks.

68 posted on 01/05/2012 10:26:14 AM PST by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: servantboy777

Welcome to Freerepublic idiot. You are at the right place to become less ignorant.


69 posted on 01/05/2012 10:32:58 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: cuban leaf
So, the child's “maybe” gun is dangerous, but firing 3 shots in a school is not?

Ever heard of ricochet, or bullets passing through bodies or walls, killing innocent children? I wonder who might have been behind or near the perp?

Yeah, it is so much safer when cops start shooting FIRST in a school. /dripping sarc

I suspect that if a private citizen had done what the cops did here, that citizen would be arrested for reckless endangerment, if not murder, & rightly so.

70 posted on 01/05/2012 11:14:29 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

—So, the child’s “maybe” gun is dangerous, but firing 3 shots in a school is not?—

Under the circumstances as reported, yep.

—Ever heard of ricochet, or bullets passing through bodies or walls, killing innocent children? I wonder who might have been behind or near the perp?—

Why, yes I have. Having not been on site when it happened and due to a dearth of info in the article regarding those specifics, I have no opinion on that.

—I suspect that if a private citizen had done what the cops did here, that citizen would be arrested for reckless endangerment, if not murder, & rightly so.—

Yes. A private citizen does not have the right to involve himself in such a situation UNLESS the perp is actually making threatening remarks while wielding what a reasonable person would think was a semi-automatic hand gun.

The cops find themselves in situations all the time that may have never resulted in anything had the cops not got involved. But that is because they are required to investigate and ask questions that a private citizen is not.

For the record, I normally do not defend the cops. I think the cop in Seattle should be in preison for murdering the carving indian. And don’t even get me started on that Arizona Costco incident.

But I take every one of these on a case by case basis. I agree with the cops on this one, based on what I’ve read so far.


71 posted on 01/05/2012 11:25:14 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: VU4G10

Poor kid. No second chance for that mistake.


72 posted on 01/05/2012 11:28:11 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Mister Da

If you want to put quotation marks around a word you should put them around “child” in your post...This guy was 15 years old, not 7 years old...he is old enough to know what he’s doing...

A pellet gun isn’t a “maybe” gun as you suggest...I could easily kill you with a pellet gun...use your computer and check out the ballistics for pellet guns...It IS NOT A TOY!!!!!!


73 posted on 01/05/2012 11:42:35 AM PST by Boonie
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To: servantboy777
Professing Christian here.

The perp brandished a weapon unlawfully and refused to drop it when ordered to by lawful authority. Unless there is something that isn't being reported, it sounds like a good shoot to me.

Read Romans 13. The state does not bear the sword in vain.

74 posted on 01/05/2012 12:20:58 PM PST by jboot
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To: Vaquero

No flame from me. One less future scumbag la raza puke down and out. Good shooting fellas!


75 posted on 01/05/2012 2:04:35 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: servantboy777

Stupidest damn post of the year so far. How old are you? Any idea of the training SOP’s the LEO’s get for if/when confronted like this? Go back to your Hollywood movies.


76 posted on 01/05/2012 2:07:50 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: servantboy777
The cops didn't have to blaze away at this kid. Perhaps a well placed shot to the hip or leg. This would have dropped the kid immediately writhing in pain.

Three shots does not equal 'BLAZING AWAY' A shot to the leg or hip could have it the main artery and killed him just as dead. Hip shot could have crippled him for life (and millions in taxpayer funds to take care of him)


77 posted on 01/05/2012 2:19:38 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: servantboy777

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh


78 posted on 01/05/2012 4:48:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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