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Royal Navy sends its mightiest ship to take on the Iranian show of force in the Gulf
the telegraph ^ | 6th January, 2012 | unknown

Posted on 01/06/2012 4:08:44 PM PST by yank in the UK

The Royal Navy's most formidable warship is being sent to the Gulf for its first mission as tensions rise in the strategically vital region, it can be disclosed. Naval commanders believe the deployment of HMS Daring, a Type 45 destroyer, will send a significant message to the Iranians because of the firepower and world-beating technology carried by the warship.Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, has publicly warned Iran that any blockade of the Strait of Hormuz would be "illegal and unsuccessful".

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: gulf; iran; royalnavy; straitofhormuz
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1 posted on 01/06/2012 4:08:51 PM PST by yank in the UK
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To: yank in the UK
The Royal Navy's most formidable warship is now a destroyer?
2 posted on 01/06/2012 4:13:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: yank in the UK

Not quite the HMS Vanguard but still nice to see on watch.

3 posted on 01/06/2012 4:13:53 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: hinckley buzzard

When you’re spending your wad of cash on social programs, it doesn’t leave a whole lot left for the other things, like military.


4 posted on 01/06/2012 4:14:42 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Alas the once great British Royal Navy....


5 posted on 01/06/2012 4:14:51 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: yank in the UK

If someone had told me 50 years ago that in the future, the Royal Navy’s mightiest ship would be a destroyer, I would have assumed the country had collapsed.

Now that I think about it, that is not too far off.


6 posted on 01/06/2012 4:15:40 PM PST by yarddog
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To: hinckley buzzard

And O-Bozo is about to make the U.S. Navy the same.


7 posted on 01/06/2012 4:16:08 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

BTTT


8 posted on 01/06/2012 4:16:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: mgstarr

The one thing I’ve never understood about Western use of naval power.

We don’t use it.

Why weren’t the Western navies out for blood off Somalia shutting down these joke pirates? We have these highly advanced warships and let goons in speed boats hold world shipping hostage.

Like they’d show any more backbone against Iran.


9 posted on 01/06/2012 4:16:41 PM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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10 posted on 01/06/2012 4:16:50 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: hinckley buzzard
The Royal Navy's most formidable warship is now a destroyer?

Stick a fork in the RN, it;s done.

11 posted on 01/06/2012 4:17:33 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: wally_bert

So where are are ships?


12 posted on 01/06/2012 4:17:51 PM PST by tioga ( Choose an author as you choose a friend. Sir Christopher Wren)
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To: wally_bert

So where are are ships?


13 posted on 01/06/2012 4:18:03 PM PST by tioga ( Choose an author as you choose a friend. Sir Christopher Wren)
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To: tioga

“So where are are ships?”

Huh?


14 posted on 01/06/2012 4:20:17 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: tioga

Mothballed, scrapped, or sold off to pay for the utopian welfare state giving everything to the muzzies.


15 posted on 01/06/2012 4:20:48 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: SandRat

We’ll be lucky to have a destroyer. 0’s navy would be a frigate powered by sail and rowing crews when there is no wind.


16 posted on 01/06/2012 4:22:55 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Mears
I think tioga was wondering the same thing I was: what happened to all the Royal Navy ships above destroyer class?

Doesn't the RN have any aircraft carriers or submarines on active service?

17 posted on 01/06/2012 4:24:06 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Our military is only for nation building, not for defending our borders or direct maritime interests.


18 posted on 01/06/2012 4:32:43 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: mgstarr
I think we need a bunch of movable reefs to tear out the bottoms of the Iranian Navy.

Is Davy Jones in the Koran?

19 posted on 01/06/2012 4:33:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: yank in the UK

Not-so-Great Britain......RIP Britannia.


20 posted on 01/06/2012 4:36:23 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: yank in the UK

I am beginning to feel like a repeat in history might happen.

Like the HOOD. One shot.

The Iranians may have something as extreme as a nuclear mine already awaiting.


21 posted on 01/06/2012 4:37:11 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Castigo Cay by Matt Bracken, check it out. And his other works.)
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To: mgstarr

Is that a JAS-39 Gripen off the stern?


22 posted on 01/06/2012 4:38:46 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: yank in the UK

Did they buy missiles and ammo for it?


23 posted on 01/06/2012 4:42:46 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: yank in the UK

Hope this encounter goes better than the last time.

24 posted on 01/06/2012 4:42:49 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: hinckley buzzard

It is primarily an anti-air platform built to augment US carrier groups. Tests show there’s not much it can’t see and kill in the air within 120 km. It can also be outfitted to do a decent anti-ship job against small (4-8 ship) formations.

Not anything like what the UK should be able to field, but not a joke either.


25 posted on 01/06/2012 4:44:58 PM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: yank in the UK

It’s business time.


26 posted on 01/06/2012 4:45:07 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: yank in the UK

Anytime the Brits present their manhood, I’m in favor and cheering.

Target Malmo next. When you Brits are done with that, attack the muslim parts of Paris. Sarkozy will have a fit, but so what. Merkel won’t mind.


27 posted on 01/06/2012 4:47:18 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: hinckley buzzard

It can do the work that 4-5 of the previous model can do. It’s one helluva anti-air platform.


28 posted on 01/06/2012 4:51:08 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: yank in the UK

Sure hope the EW module is worthy.....20 sec response time on
missiles from Iranian coast. Good hunting, mates.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 4:53:32 PM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: sergeantdave

“Target Malmo next”.

Don’t forget Bradford.


30 posted on 01/06/2012 4:53:42 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Eye of Unk
"Like the HOOD. One shot."

Bad news when your magazines are hit.

What were there, 2 or 3 survivors?

31 posted on 01/06/2012 4:55:19 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: sergeantdave

BRILLIANT !


32 posted on 01/06/2012 4:55:33 PM PST by advertising guy (dammit)
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To: Menehune56

No, it’s a Eurofighter Typhoon. I’m surprised how smokey the engine exhaust is....What did they have to resort to russian engines ? You could see that trail from dozens of miles out !


33 posted on 01/06/2012 5:07:00 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

The British Navy got so incredibly lucky in one lucky hit that jammed the Bismark’s rudder. I sometimes wonder if it was divine intervention. Another couple of hours and it would have been under German Air umbrella.

Then again Hood was equally unlucky tho from what I have read, the Bismark would have sunk it anyway.


34 posted on 01/06/2012 5:10:18 PM PST by yarddog
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To: mgstarr

I hope it will never be renamed the HMS Jihadi.


35 posted on 01/06/2012 5:12:37 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

>Why weren’t the Western navies out for blood off Somalia shutting down these joke pirates?<

.
Why bother using the USN?

Zap the basterds with a Hellfire using a common drone.


36 posted on 01/06/2012 5:19:23 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SENTINEL
No, it’s a Eurofighter Typhoon. I’m surprised how smokey the engine exhaust is....What did they have to resort to russian engines ? You could see that trail from dozens of miles out !

I think that's heat distortion rather than smoke.

37 posted on 01/06/2012 5:33:55 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: yank in the UK

wiki -

In total there are 79 commissioned ships in the navy. 19 of the commissioned vessels are major surface combatants (6 guided missile destroyers and 13 frigates) and 11 are nuclear powered submarines (4 ballistic missile submarines and 7 fleet submarines). In addition the Navy possesses an aircraft carrier, a helicopter carrier and 2 landing platform docks.

so, its the latest greatest ship but not the only one. sounds like a formidible piece of kit..besides the greatest ship in any navy is the SSBN hands down.


38 posted on 01/06/2012 5:38:12 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: SnuffaBolshevik; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; ...
Re:

That's not the HMS Hood above.

That's HMS Barham , a Queen Elisabeth Class Battleship, sinking on 25th November 1941. She was the only British battleship sunk by a U-Boat. The film of the Barham capsizing and blowing up is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSY94QVIss

39 posted on 01/06/2012 5:42:01 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

I am pretty sure a U-Boat sank a British battleship in Scapa Flow.


40 posted on 01/06/2012 5:56:10 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Royal Oak?


41 posted on 01/06/2012 5:59:56 PM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: yarddog
I am pretty sure a U-Boat sank a British battleship in Scapa Flow.

The Royal Oak, by U-47, on 14 Octobere, 1939.

42 posted on 01/06/2012 6:00:01 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
HMS was actually hit twice. And unlike the Hood, which was 22 years old and in dire need of a refit and upgrade, HMS Daring is brand new.
And yes, only 3 crewmen of HMS Hood survived. Naming a battlecruiser after an admiral who died, when his battlecruiser was sunk at Jutland was inauspicious, only slightly less so than naming said battlecruiser "Invincible."
43 posted on 01/06/2012 6:00:08 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: piytar
I'm sure it has some impressive capabilities but..where are the carriers...the battleships...the cruisers...y'know, The Navy.

Will this be us in ten years?

44 posted on 01/06/2012 6:16:04 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: okie01; Dilbert56

Yes, that has to have been one of the greatest military exploits of all time even if he was a German. To top it all off, he escaped afterwards.


45 posted on 01/06/2012 6:18:42 PM PST by yarddog
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To: rmlew

I saw your tagline: “Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.”

Your part about minerats and bayonets leads me to this short story:

I picked up a great knife from Pakistan a few weeks ago, and I was surprised by the workmanship. The edge was honed well, the steel was annealed properly and the weight was great. I consider it close in workmanship and quality to the Texas Bowie knife.

There’s a few pits in the steel toward the hilt, but I figure the blacksmith was in a hurry to avoid detection.(He’s probably firing gun barrels, too.) Nonetheless, I’m noticing some great quality knives coming out of Pakistan. These boys know what they’re doing.


46 posted on 01/06/2012 6:25:45 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: yank in the UK

A modern Destroyer is hardly the same as a “tin can” from WW2. They are bigger than ships previously classified as cruisers and have extensive capabilities. Still, to be impressive show of force, you need more than just one. A battle group that can defend itself against anything the Iranians can throw at it and then rain destruction on them at will would be better.


47 posted on 01/06/2012 6:33:48 PM PST by yawningotter
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48 posted on 01/06/2012 6:35:11 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Menehune56

Eurofighter Typhoon.


49 posted on 01/06/2012 6:38:58 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: yank in the UK
Good afternoon.

Doesn't the Royal Navy have SSBNs? With Trident missiles?

5.56mm

50 posted on 01/06/2012 6:46:22 PM PST by M Kehoe
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