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Texas case suggests court may overhaul voting rights
The Washington Examiner ^ | 1-9-12 | Ken Klukowski

Posted on 01/10/2012 7:21:50 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

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1 posted on 01/10/2012 7:22:02 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Paul Clement is a busy man. He’s also defending DOMA against the Sodomite-in-Chief.


2 posted on 01/10/2012 7:24:11 AM PST by fwdude
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The only way to clean up this arbitrary mess lies in going to a verifiable random process routine.

Talk to a mathematician (like me). It can be done.

3 posted on 01/10/2012 7:29:10 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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4 posted on 01/10/2012 7:54:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: OldNavyVet
The only way to clean up this arbitrary mess lies in going to a verifiable random process routine. Talk to a mathematician (like me). It can be done.

Not in this case.

Mathematics resolves unique solutions from multiple constraints.

Politics takes a resolved solution and fractures it into competing alternatives.

No way no how can the two disciplines help each other.

The supreme court justices can't even agree one which circuit courts should consider which conflicting sections of a law with an outdated purpose of protecting black voting rights being applied to hispanics, which are white and not historically repressed at the voting booth.

Nobody agrees that gerrymandering should be rejected, they merely agree that gerrymandering should only apply to further each parties conflicting goals. And there's not just two parties. There are d's, r's, black groups, hispanic groups, state govt turf, fed govt turf, etc.

While your proposal may seem ideal for a map case, the problem is that there are no constraints agreed upon to guide the selection of better or worse maps.

What they're doing here is simply waiting for the ultimate authority to carve out an arbitrary, final solution.

It will not make any sense either and the final reason your proposal fails is just that....your result might be fair, equitable and verifiable. That would disadvantage all of the power players, and so it is not a desirable political solution.

5 posted on 01/10/2012 8:33:01 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
There is no way a three person panel should be able to make decisions on how to redistrict a state. It is both insane that they would rule on the redistricting and then REDISTRICT THEMSELVES. Who the hell do these federales think they are?

One of the reasons I supported Perry was that I saw him as the best person to understand and attempt to roll back the federal governments impingement on state and individual rights.

Admittedly, I may be wrong about that but I like the chances of someone from Texas taking on the feds rather than a Masshole.

6 posted on 01/10/2012 8:41:53 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The SCOTUS mmay prove to be some counterweight to nobama, i.e. EPA and redistricting and potentially nobamacare.

I seem to remember a snippet from history lessons that the SCOTUS had similar counter effect against FDR’s rampant socialism.

On a larger scale maybe the Constitutional system does work, just that on the smaller scale the liberals are incermentalizing us to death.


7 posted on 01/10/2012 9:02:27 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: afraidfortherepublic; OldDeckHand; tired_old_conservative; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; ...
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

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8 posted on 01/10/2012 9:36:26 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: shield

Ping to a little bit of Perry campaign info in the article.


9 posted on 01/10/2012 9:40:13 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ping to the daily stuff Perry’s been fighting for 10 years.

Walking the walk.


10 posted on 01/10/2012 9:53:38 AM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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Perry Ping....

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11 posted on 01/10/2012 10:06:56 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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12 posted on 01/10/2012 10:37:20 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: fwdude

States right? or Obama rights?

Go Perry.


13 posted on 01/10/2012 11:27:17 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I live and vote in Texas.

Texas has made it illegal to write in one’s choice for a political office.

I suggest to the Court that the anti write in law is unconstitutional, because it restricts a voters freedom of choice.


14 posted on 01/10/2012 11:35:53 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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You mean that you don’t have the right to vote for Adolf Hitler, or Mickey Mouse? We get to do that in Wisconsin, and the votes get counted too!! It drives those of us who work the polls a little bit nuts on election night cause we have to copy each extra name onto a report to turn into the County. Grrrrr.


15 posted on 01/10/2012 11:54:55 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Graewoulf

You mean that you don’t have the right to vote for Adolf Hitler, or Mickey Mouse? We get to do that in Wisconsin, and the votes get counted too!! It drives those of us who work the polls a little bit nuts on election night cause we have to copy each extra name onto a report to turn into the County. Grrrrr.


16 posted on 01/10/2012 11:59:25 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: OldNavyVet; sam_paine
The ratio of reps/voters is about 1:700,000.

Get the ratio somewhere close to the 1:30,000 in our Constitution and all of the various rat victim groups along with regular Americans will be represented.

San Francisco will send a few freaks to Congress, and my rural area will send a good ‘ol boy. That is the sort of representation our Framers set up.

17 posted on 01/10/2012 12:02:34 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Graewoulf

It is perfectly Constitutional. Review Article II Section 1 para 2.


18 posted on 01/10/2012 12:06:03 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: sam_paine
While your proposal may seem ideal for a map case, the problem is that there are no constraints agreed upon to guide the selection of better or worse maps.

Here’s a workable, but very-likely “unacceptable to established politicians” approach.

The politics in setting up congressional districts involves gerrymandering 435 districts , so looking for “workable” (see “non-workable” below) and randomized gerrymandering constraints involving roads, conjoined properties and some sort of "symmetry" involving 435 districts (covering the US citizen census count) across each of the 50 states – could be done.

“Non Workable” could be defined as a randomized plan subject to some significant -- and increasing -- percentage (5%, 10%, 20%, etc) of Americans objecting …within 30 days …. to a currently extant randomized plan.

As I said, I could do it … but ... established politicians, and their well connected, "happy", constituents; wouldn’t stand for it because every push of my Go button would come up with a totally unique solution.

But then ...

"Not everything needs to be fixed." -- Randy Pausch

19 posted on 01/10/2012 12:07:29 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: afraidfortherepublic

” - - - Grrrrr.”

No. I choose to vote for a Conservative, who will Impeach those who violate the US Constitution, cut Baseline Federal spending and shrink the size of the US Federal Government.

Since “both” Political Parties refuse to do ANY of the above, I want to write in a Candidate who is not on their rigged ballots.

I vote to get my Country back on track, in spite of “both” political parties.

I want the right to do so restored.


20 posted on 01/10/2012 12:09:53 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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