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Marin County smoking ban on hold
ABC 7 News (KGO-TV/DT) ^ | January 11, 2012 | KGO

Posted on 01/11/2012 9:42:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

MARIN COUNTY, Calif. (KGO) -- A Marin County smoking ban is on hold while lawmakers consider weeding out marijuana from the measure.

The ordinance as written would outlaw smoking in unincorporated county apartments and included marijuana and other herbs as well as tobacco.

It was abruptly sent back to committee Wednesday when Supervisor Kate Sears said only tobacco should be banned...

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: marijuana; marincounty; nannystate; pufflist; smokingban; tobacco; warondrugs

1 posted on 01/11/2012 9:42:24 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 01/11/2012 9:44:25 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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3 posted on 01/11/2012 9:45:33 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How can they ban legal activities in private homes?

This exceeds Nanny State intrusiveness. This is tyranny.

4 posted on 01/11/2012 9:47:25 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oh, noes! Mustn’t ban the holy herb!


5 posted on 01/11/2012 9:48:17 PM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumbass Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Sparticus
It could get real interesting when some poor slob who has to pass a random drug test in order to remain employed flunks because the neighbors have been smoking dope...

Tort lawyer heaven...

6 posted on 01/11/2012 9:54:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Tobacky = bad
Wacky Tobacky = good


7 posted on 01/11/2012 9:54:37 PM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is this the Onion? They are trying to make it illegal to smoke cigarettes yet legal to smoke joints?


8 posted on 01/11/2012 9:57:11 PM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Marin County is one of the most liberal and least tolerant counties in all of California. I have to work in that “progressive” cesspool nearly 5 months out of the year and know from personal experience what kind of power hungry commissars populate the local political landscape....


9 posted on 01/11/2012 9:58:49 PM PST by freebilly
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To: dennisw; Sparticus

The Supervisor said that the law shouldn’t ban pot smoking, because there is already a law doing so.


10 posted on 01/11/2012 9:59:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Sparticus

How would the seriously ill be able to smoke their medical marijuana?


11 posted on 01/11/2012 10:04:43 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
So Pot smoke is healthy and cigarettes are certain death. Some logic.


12 posted on 01/11/2012 10:05:17 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Tobacco is bad Mmmmkay...

Pot is expands your mind Mmmkay....


13 posted on 01/11/2012 10:10:54 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: freebilly

“Marin County is one of the most liberal and least tolerant counties in all of California.
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When my brother had a medical practice in San Francisco
he lived in Mill Valley.(Marin county)
I visited and found it to be quite nice, but that was 40 years ago.
He now lives in Paris, but his twin lives in Pacifica, overlooking the ocean. I do not know what county that is.


14 posted on 01/11/2012 10:12:06 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Sparticus
"I want to smoke a doobie too......!


15 posted on 01/11/2012 10:13:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: AlexW

Pacifica is in San Mateo county.


16 posted on 01/11/2012 10:20:31 PM PST by reardensteel
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I honestly don't understand why any sane person would even consider complying with such authoritarian laws like this. It bans smoking in any common area (including private balconies and CARPORTS?!? Are you serious? A car port typically HAS CARS IN IT, they emit toxins during the course of normal operation... HELLO?!?) It further requires private landowners to designate at least 80 percent of rental units as being ‘non-smoking’ and permanently bans smoking in any new apartment building.

Why would anyone ever choose to comply with such laws? Why would you open the door to such regulations? Where will the transfat free apartments be? Or carports restricted to only vehicles that get at least 45 miles to the gallon. Oh, hey, there's the plasma tv ban in apartments... Oh, wait, let's require the power to be shut off during the day, keep those vampire appliances from eating up the power in the state.

At what point do people say ‘enough’? At what point do they blatantly go out of their way to break inane laws, and then challenge the government to actually enforce them?

Will it be when BBQing meat becomes illegal because a vegan might inhale the fumes of an animal roasting on a fire? Will it be when the police knocks on your door to find out exactly how many laws you've broken?

I don't care what anyone’s opinion is on smoking, this is regulation of private property for the sake of establishing such regulation. It doesn't matter if you find it disgusting or offensive, if you let a city or county government regulate these kinds of details of public life, you can kiss goodbye any chance of challenging them later.

17 posted on 01/11/2012 10:26:10 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: freebilly

“Marin County is one of the most liberal and least tolerant counties in all of California. I have to work in that “progressive” cesspool nearly 5 months out of the year and know from personal experience what kind of power hungry commissars populate the local political landscape”

Where do you think Babs Boxer lives? She moved to Marin County from New York City many moons ago and is part and parcel why Marin County is what it is!


18 posted on 01/11/2012 10:27:37 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: reardensteel

“Pacifica is in San Mateo county.”
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Thanks...That is interesting, as he lived in the town of San Mateo before buying the condo in Pacifica, but it seemed to me that San Mateo was somewhat farther to the south.


19 posted on 01/11/2012 10:31:24 PM PST by AlexW
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To: dennisw

I looove marijuana...but the nanny state really harshes my buzz ;^)


20 posted on 01/12/2012 1:12:22 AM PST by AnTiw1
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Marijuana causes Glowbull Warming.


21 posted on 01/12/2012 1:51:03 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Since when does enacting duplicate laws bother these petty Gov’t types?
22 posted on 01/12/2012 2:23:30 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: TigersEye
99% of marijuana smokers are so paranoid they believe in Glowbull Warming
23 posted on 01/12/2012 2:25:13 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: dennisw

Now that’s BS. I don’t know any pot smokers who believe in Glowbull Warming.


24 posted on 01/12/2012 2:32:19 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Pontiac
How can they ban legal activities in private homes?

"Smoke-free" apartments are common these days. Though not codified into municipal law, apartment complexes with smoking prohibitions written into their leases are all everywhere these days --and not just in California.

If you are a smoker, it's getting harder and harder to find apartments that will accommodate you.

25 posted on 01/12/2012 3:33:05 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
"Smoke-free" apartments are common these days.

I am not really a smoker (a couple of cigars a year, usually outside in the summer) so I do not have a vested interest in this accept as an American who cares about the liberty our founding fathers fought and died to give to us.

I have no problem with an apartment owner placing restrictions in the lease contract on the activities of renters. That is a contract freely entered in to by two individuals for the mutual benefit of both.

The government has no vested interest in the contractual agreement of a renter and his landlord other than the taxes collected from either or both. The city government has no right to place such a restriction on property owners.

26 posted on 01/12/2012 4:26:54 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: kingu
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them...."
~Ayn Rand - Atlas Shrugged~

Red Light Cameras, Smoking Bans, EPA, ADA, Smart Meters, the list goes on and on.....

27 posted on 01/12/2012 6:14:49 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Supervisor Kate Sears said only tobacco should be banned...”

Wow! They don’t even hide it anymore..


28 posted on 01/12/2012 9:10:48 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Pontiac

“This exceeds Nanny State intrusiveness. This is tyranny.”

There is no distinction.


29 posted on 01/12/2012 9:12:19 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yes, nanny statism is good, but don’t touch the pot. [facepalm]


30 posted on 01/12/2012 11:44:07 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: AlexW

Pacifica is just south of San Francisco in San Mateo County. It’s spectacularly beautiful from Pacifica all the way down to Santa Cruz and south to Monterey & Big Sur. Nearly all of beautiful coastal California is a liberal toilet....


31 posted on 01/12/2012 4:55:46 PM PST by freebilly
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To: kingu

I would never comply with a smoking ban like this. Let them.. catch me. I will smoke in my house, my apartment, damn near anyplace I want on my own property. The only way to fight these kind of laws is to ignore them.

Just look at illegals.. how many times do we hear “You cant deport them all?”

Well.. same for smokers.. “You cant arrest all of us” lol


32 posted on 01/12/2012 5:05:35 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: CSM

Yes, one thing that bugs me about calling it nanny state is that that sounds sort of, annoying but for your own good, basically harmless. Tyranny is NOT harmless, no matter WHAT face it dons to weasel its way into a society. These people should be SHUNNED in all cases, imprisoned in others, where they have clearly gone too far.


33 posted on 01/13/2012 8:50:46 AM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Santorum.)
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To: ichabod1

I’m very tempted to take the treatement of nannystaters a couple of steps further....


34 posted on 01/13/2012 11:28:25 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: eXe

Interesting dynamic, since apartments are inhabited by POOR people, who have much more tendency to smoke cigarettes than RICH people who can afford houses. It’s literally a war on the poor. But who ever accused liberals of being consistent or logical, or even possessing a brain?


35 posted on 01/13/2012 7:38:10 PM PST by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: CSM

Shelion (RIP) had a list of violent incidents that had taken place over someone using tobacco. It was a long list. These laws are like permission to attack to the pharisee class.


36 posted on 01/16/2012 7:50:48 PM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Santorum.)
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To: boop

I don’t think they allow poor people in Marin County, except as household servants of course. Maybe low caste retail jobs.


37 posted on 01/16/2012 8:03:17 PM PST by ichabod1 (Mr. Santorum.)
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To: ichabod1

You just made my screen blurry....


38 posted on 01/17/2012 6:07:33 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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