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So what's changed in two years? Staggering pictures show how Haiti is still a shattered wreck
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 13, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 01/13/2012 7:07:17 AM PST by C19fan

Two years after a devastating earthquake, Haiti is struggling to rebuild its ravaged buildings and hundreds of thousands of victims remain homeless. The 7.0 magnitude quake on January 12, 2010, lasted only a few seconds but killed around 300,000 people and left more than 1.5million without homes. Since then, however, reconstruction has been painfully slow, with squalid tent camps housing more than a half a million people in the Haitian capital, Port-au-Prince.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: earthquake; haiti; ngo; un
Is it too much to ask the half million homeless to get off their butts and start cleaning up.
1 posted on 01/13/2012 7:07:20 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan
3rd worlders never build anything. The would still be living in huts if it wasn't for all the infrastructure that was handed over to them by the colonialists. But once that infrastructure is gone ... they just revert back to their old selves.
2 posted on 01/13/2012 7:09:44 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: C19fan

What happened to all of the money?


3 posted on 01/13/2012 7:11:10 AM PST by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Haiti is the Somalia of the west, incapable of governing themselves.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 7:13:05 AM PST by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: C19fan
Is it too much to ask the half million homeless to get off their butts and start cleaning up.

Yeah, and compare that with how quickly the people of Japan cleaned up after an earthquake AND resultant tsunami.

5 posted on 01/13/2012 7:13:05 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: C19fan

take a socialist country....give the people no self respect...then and earthquake....

and vuala...permanent slum....

happening in europe now and soon coming to a country near you..


6 posted on 01/13/2012 7:14:19 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: C19fan

It’s simple to understand why the place is still a mess. They are waiting for someone else to come and clean it up.

Maybe we should send down the Mexican crews who cleaned up New Orleans.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 7:14:32 AM PST by Venturer
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To: C19fan
Right. I remember seeing film and stills of Londoners clearing debris, by hand, after the blitz. And that went on continuously DURING war time and once the bombing stopped until the streets were clear. They didn't receive billions in aid, either!
8 posted on 01/13/2012 7:14:37 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: C19fan

Where’s all the fn money?


9 posted on 01/13/2012 7:17:23 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: C19fan

How about getting Clinton/Bush and all the others (Moochelle, Dr. Jill) to pack their sleeping bags and get their hands dirty...
it’s called walkin’ the walk, instead of spouting the platitudes.


10 posted on 01/13/2012 7:17:28 AM PST by matginzac
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To: C19fan

Where’s all the fn money?


11 posted on 01/13/2012 7:17:33 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Explorer89

You are not supposed to ask questions like that.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 7:23:44 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: C19fan

Like New Orleans, but unlike Mississippi and Alabama, they’ll sit back and wait for someone to come in and take care of them.


13 posted on 01/13/2012 7:24:04 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Explorer89

The money? Certainly not with those people. It’s probably in Europe.


14 posted on 01/13/2012 7:24:49 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Explorer89; ronnie raygun
What happened to all of the money?

It's in the Cayman's.

15 posted on 01/13/2012 7:25:46 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Explorer89
Winner question


16 posted on 01/13/2012 7:30:45 AM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: facedown

So the American taxpayer is cheated once again. How typical.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 7:32:11 AM PST by onedoug
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To: C19fan

All of the food we’ve sent down there, and all of the doctors we’ve sent there have: put Haitian farmers and put Haitian doctors out of work....it destroyed what little self-sustaining infrastructure they had. There was a time not so long ago when Haitians were actually quite self-sufficient, not rich, by any standards, but it wasn’t always the basket case that it is now....and all of the aid will only perpetuate it being a basket case.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 7:35:15 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: C19fan

But Bill Clinton went down and fixed everything. /sarcasm


19 posted on 01/13/2012 7:36:57 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: C19fan

Look, folks, I have worked with Haitian folks that reside in Miami. The overwhelming majority of these folks are hard working, decent people who want the best for their families and loved ones!!! And...they, as a group, contribute positive economic power to the South Florida locale.

The country of Haiti is another story, being full of crooks, dictators, and power hungry leaders and politicians, that have only their own interest at heart. With Obama as POTUS in the USA, one would think he would be proactive in leading the effort to rebuild and develop Haiti, starting with cleaning out the Haitian corrupt leadership. But....that is not on the Obama agenda!!!

Actually, Obama has an established mantra that bypasses Christian Blacks, in Haiti, in the USA and around the world. For goodness sake the Obama bloodline comes from Muslim slave traders in Kenya!!! It is really amazing, that Haitians, American Blacks, African Black Christians in Libya and Nigeria continue to give this anti-Black Christian hater, Obama the right time of day!!! Sad, because the plight of Haiti, etc. will only get worse for those
Blacks that continue to support Barack Hussein Obama. Yes, the truth hurts, but....the truth is the truth!!!


20 posted on 01/13/2012 7:39:27 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: C19fan

Haiti was a shattered wreck before the earthquake.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 7:40:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Years ago, 1982 or so, I needed to hire someone to caulk around the windows and doors in a hirise condo building under construction. I asked the labor foreman for the contractor to find me someone. He did.

The man was a 30 something Haitian. He worked like hell and said almost nothing. His English was barely passable.

As I reflect today, he would likely be illegal, but that was not on the radar at the time.

A black man with some authority and power and certainly with influence in the vast black community of Rivera Beach Florida by passed locals in favor of a man he knew could and would work every day.


22 posted on 01/13/2012 7:53:31 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: C19fan; All
"So what's changed in two years?"

Wrong question! The right one is: What difference does a culture make?

POST-WWII GERMANY: With most German men dead or POWs,
women clear and salvage rubble and then begin the rebuilding.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 7:53:31 AM PST by drpix
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To: Explorer89
“What happened to all of the money?”

Its in the bank accounts of greedy politicians and other assorted thieves.

24 posted on 01/13/2012 7:57:21 AM PST by mongo141
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To: Moonman62
I was told that there were thousands of relief agencies in Haiti before the earthquake.
25 posted on 01/13/2012 7:59:05 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (This space for rant.)
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To: Explorer89

The UN and other NGOs had to get their cut, which is around 99%.


26 posted on 01/13/2012 8:02:25 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: C19fan

I kinda agree, but these are primitive people used to being ruled and who always end up being ruled by ruthless dictators who live high on the hog and heartlessly deny their people.

All the money good-hearted people gave to help Haitans ended up in the hands of these dictators.

I don’t want to sound ‘heartless,’ but there’s really nothing much other people and countries can do for these people.


27 posted on 01/13/2012 8:04:27 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: bert
Your observation of hard working Haitians in the US is no different than others' observation of hardworking Greeks, Italians etc.... "in the US." While true, it does NOT translate to character of their countrymen left behind.

When it comes to countries with lazy cultures, I've heard many of their immigrants observe that the hardworking ones come to the US and the lazy ones stay home.

28 posted on 01/13/2012 8:05:05 AM PST by drpix
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To: C19fan

In a SWAG on another thread this week I guesstimated Haiti can support about 3 million people. There’s 10 million.


29 posted on 01/13/2012 8:12:04 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ctdonath2
... and let's not forget Clinton's porcine press secretary, Joe Lockhart, who wound up with a piece of every phone call billed in or out of Haiti

Haiti: Where did the money go?

But the economy of rice in Haiti says everything about the condition the country is in. The U.S. government subsidizes and “donates” ton after ton of rice in Haiti and in so doing has through the last several decades completely undercut Haitian rice farmers and left them destitute and migrating into cities where they live in hovels that were destroyed by the quake.

As recently as the early 1980s, Haiti was producing just about all of its own rice. Now more than 60 percent is imported from the U.S., making it the fourth largest recipient of American rice exports in the world. That was before the quake and now with donated rice coming in as well, Haiti is even more awash in rice while American agribusiness makes billions of dollars every year through generous government subsidies.

There is perhaps some bitter irony here that the subsidies were promoted in large part by President Clinton to help his home state of Arkansas, the largest rice producing state in the U.S., thereby crippling a sector of the economy in Haiti where Clinton has worked so tirelessly to help with the recovery.

“You might say it is a perfect metaphor for what is wrong with aid to Haiti,” says Marc Cohen, a senior researcher for Oxfam, one of the largest non-government organizations (NGOs) in the world, which raised approximately $106 million for a three-year response in Haiti and finds itself struggling to deliver the aid effectively.

“Instead of bringing subsidized rice in on ships from Miami, we could be helping Haiti grow rice in its own fields,” adds Cohen, who worked for many years in Haiti with the International Food Policy Research Institute and studied the broad economic impact of U.S. rice subsidies, or “Miami rice,” as it is known here.

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30 posted on 01/13/2012 8:31:45 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Recon Dad
Haiti is the Somalia of the west, incapable of governing themselves.

Worse. They both will neither govern themselves, nor allow any outsider to govern them. They both will remain a running sore on the surface of the Earth. It seems like the only cure is excision or cauterization.

31 posted on 01/13/2012 8:37:45 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Meanwhile in Joplin, MO:


32 posted on 01/13/2012 8:40:58 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: dfwgator
All of the food we’ve sent down there, and all of the doctors we’ve sent there have: put Haitian farmers and put Haitian doctors out of work....it destroyed what little self-sustaining infrastructure they had. There was a time not so long ago when Haitians were actually quite self-sufficient, not rich, by any standards, but it wasn’t always the basket case that it is now....and all of the aid will only perpetuate it being a basket case.

Outside aid just gets stolen by the elite kleptocracy and allows the parasites to persist. The only solution is to eliminate ALL outside aid. At that point, the only targets of the kleptocrats would be the Haitians themselves, who have nothing to steal, and an incentive to kill parasites who want to feed on them.

33 posted on 01/13/2012 8:40:58 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: C19fan
Haiti was a shattered wreck BEFORE the earthquake.

That having been said, a buddy of mine said that Haiti and New Orleans have a lot in common. He went to NO to help during Katrina. He and his crew were really working up a sweat, unloading water and supplies while a few dozen (male, able bodied locals) sat in the shade and watched.

Buddy wandered over to them and asked for a hand. They all laughed at him. Buddy said "No, really, all this stuff is for you guys. Give us a hand." They told him to do something that was anatomically impossible.

Buddy finished out the day, packed up himself and his crew, and moved east to Mississippi (where specifically, I don't know). He said that the damage there was exponentially worse, and the people were exponentially more helpful.

34 posted on 01/13/2012 8:47:49 AM PST by wbill
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To: C19fan
To be fair a similar photo essay from Christchurch, NZ, would be interesting.

ML/NJ

35 posted on 01/13/2012 8:59:18 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: C19fan
From an unusual source, another article on this cursed land: Haiti: The republic of NGOs?
36 posted on 01/13/2012 1:01:16 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
The UN and other NGOs had to get their cut, which is around 99%.

Yep, probably stored away to be pulled out to institute the one world government and army. Of course, those who are behind it all personally benefit vastly too.

37 posted on 01/13/2012 7:27:47 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: C19fan
I just spent half an hour or so "over" Port-a-prince & environs with Google Earth. It is astounding that the entire country seems depopulated -- including some nice-looking rural communities just west of P-a-p around the big lakes. Yet, down close to the port itself, the streets are totally mobbed with people, temporary "booths" in the street, and thousands of tarp-roofed hovels.

The port looks strange: very little cargo traffic -- but with a pristine cruise ship -- complete with tables with chairs for four, deck lounges, and swimming pool anchored out at the end of the quay.

I also thought it odd that, around the northern part of the harbor, there are at least twenty sunken ship hulks visible. (The characteristic dark, rusty discoloration of the water around them makes them "stand out".) There is even with one big hulk with several vessels moored right atop of -- and even tied to -- it. And there is a smaller, beached hulk farther south down the shore with people apparently living on it (superstructure rain-covered with the ubiquitous blue plastic tarps...)

There are a only a handful of planes at the airport -- including one twin-engine airliner parked "out in the dirt"...

I see zero signs of current agriculture; no one even seems to be trying to grow their own food. And the entire rest of the Haitian end of the island appears to be a depopulated, deforested wasteland.

Looks to me as if the Haitians have simply "given up" and are waiting for handouts...

38 posted on 01/13/2012 7:31:00 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: bmwcyle
But Bill Clinton went down and fixed everything. /sarcasm

And this was and still is under Obama's watch. Vast difference from the way things were handled after the tsunami under Bush's watch. Money was raised and used to help those who needed a hand up. Things got done and done right.

39 posted on 01/13/2012 7:32:10 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: C19fan; All
BTW, the Google Earth image is ca 2010. But I failed to mention that, at that time, there appeared to be dozens of brand new, identical, white, obviously unused, (NGO?) vehicles crammed into a small area along the shore of the port...

If I had given a bunch of money to Haitian relief, I'd be nighty PO'd.

40 posted on 01/13/2012 7:39:40 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks C19fan, additional:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2832695/posts


41 posted on 01/14/2012 8:03:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: bmwcyle
But Bill Clinton went down and fixed everything.

The important thing is to blame white people. Keep it the white man's fault.

42 posted on 01/15/2012 5:05:44 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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