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Posted on 01/15/2012 9:27:55 AM PST by jim macomber

Brand new computer.


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KEYWORDS: computer; trojan; virus; win7homesecurity
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Yesterday I had a run in with the Win 7 Home Security Alert virus/Trojan. It pops up and tells you you have an infection and must start the Win 7 Home Security program immediately. Whatever prgram you're in or trying to open it say, e.g., "Firefox is infected" or "Avira is infected", etc.

It just didn't look right so I clicked on nothing. I went to task manager and closed the application but every time I tried to open something, this would pop-up again. went to another computer and googled "Win 7 Home Security Alert. Sure enough, it's a fake anti-spyware program that is pretty nasty.

Ran Avira anti-virus and it found it - TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen2 - and said it quarantined it. But it was still there. Ran Malwarebytes and it found it and said it removed it and this seemed to have worked.

My concern is this, however. Normally, if you look at processes in the Task Manager, certain processes read avgnt.exe for Avira, firefox.exe for Firefox, soffice.bin for Open Office Operations, etc. Now, however, these all read avgnt.exe *32, firefox.exe *32, soffice.bin *32.

I cannot find any reference to this *32 business anywhere. Anyone know if that's an indication that the Trojan is still there? What is the *32?

My plan is to uninstall all such programs in Safe Mode and see if it makes a difference. Or is *32 something in newer computers that's not in older ones? Also ran system restore to a point before this showed up.

Is it possible this virus/Trojan could still be in there somewhere and now not showing?

1 posted on 01/15/2012 9:28:00 AM PST by jim macomber
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To: jim macomber

In before the “are you logged in” posts.


2 posted on 01/15/2012 9:30:13 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: jim macomber
Also ran system restore to a point before this showed up.

I had this problem with my kids' computer and that's what fixed it for me.

3 posted on 01/15/2012 9:32:36 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: jim macomber

Run a boot time scan


4 posted on 01/15/2012 9:33:14 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jim macomber
Yes. Burn this to a CD and boot from it and let it scan:

http://www.avg.com/us-en/avg-rescue-cd

5 posted on 01/15/2012 9:33:14 AM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: jim macomber

I used to have these issues until about 5 or six years ago I got a Mac. Have several now and have never encountered these incredibly annoying experiences. I don’t have an anti-virus program, which those supposedly in the know say is because there aren’t enough Macs to interest the evil virus writing industry. I don’t think so, since evil virus writers like a challenge, and MAC OS and IOS devices are growing into the hundreds of millions.

So, why do you Windows users insist on continuing the personal suffering? Are you masochists?


6 posted on 01/15/2012 9:33:32 AM PST by kentramsay
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It’s not a malfunction. The *32 means it’s a 32-bit program. If it says *64 or doesn’t have *32 at all, it’s a 64-bit program. This is perfectly normal for a Windows 64-bit OS.


7 posted on 01/15/2012 9:34:13 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The price of freedom is willingness to do sudden battle anywhere, anytime..." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: jim macomber

I used to have these issues until about 5 or six years ago when I got a Mac. I have several now and have never encountered these incredibly annoying experiences on any Mac. I don’t have an anti-virus program, which those supposedly in the know say is because there aren’t enough Macs to interest the evil virus writing industry. I don’t think so, since evil virus writers like a challenge, and MAC OS and IOS devices are growing into the hundreds of millions.

So, why do you Windows users insist on continuing the personal suffering? Are you masochists?


8 posted on 01/15/2012 9:34:19 AM PST by kentramsay
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To: jim macomber

I had that about a month ago. First you need to use Windows Restore.

Then turn on your windows security esentials (make sure it’s updated) that comes free with Windows and do a FULL scan (takes awhile) then set it to rescan each night while you are sleeping.

I also completely deleted the Adobe directory with flash ect where the virus is usually located and downloaded a fresh updated version of what I use regularly (flash, reader, ect) directly from Adobe.

That did the trick for me.

restoring would work for a day or two ... but then I’d just get it again. Restore + full scan + deleting the entire Adobe directory, finally fixed it for good.


9 posted on 01/15/2012 9:34:49 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: kentramsay
Are you masochists?

Yes. That is the only possible explanation isn't it?

10 posted on 01/15/2012 9:35:49 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The price of freedom is willingness to do sudden battle anywhere, anytime..." - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: jim macomber

yes! Run both of the programs; Malwarebytes and superantispywarefree once you see if they virus is still there go to this forum; http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum103.html

You may have to run your PC is safemode to install the software, what you have is a very tricky bastard to get rid of.


11 posted on 01/15/2012 9:36:59 AM PST by big bad easter bunny (Cain 2012)
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To: jim macomber

I’ve had a few “dates” with this crap and have found the easiest way to dump it is go into System Restore (restore to an earlier date), pick a date before you got the virus and “backdate” the computer to that time, then run the malware and anti-virus programs.

Here’s the official instruction:

You need to have an administrator account to perform these steps.

Start your computer in Safe Mode with Command Prompt. To learn how to do this, see Start your computer in safe mode.

Log on to the computer.

At the command prompt, type rstrui.exe, and then press Enter.

Note
If you use System Restore when the computer is in safe mode, you cannot undo the restore operation. However, you can run System Restore again and choose a different restore point, if one exists.


12 posted on 01/15/2012 9:39:08 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: kentramsay

Because I like to play games.

Why do you think there are so few MACS?

Hmmmm.


13 posted on 01/15/2012 9:41:48 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jim macomber

that windows 7 security IS A VIRUS

it bugs you until you pay for it and then watch as your bank account gets emptied

you have to go into your registry and look for the default .EXE extension, and you will find it runs some program called “rhs.exe” (or somethign similar) and passes in any program as a parameter

That executes the trojan, which then displays that warning and then executes your software so that every program you run first runs that progam

ignore it and go into the registry editor and search for ALL occurances of rhs.exe (or whatever it calls iteself on your install)

you can also try to run the task manager and remove rhs.exe (terminate it)

There are sites where you can download a fix program that does this for you (google search on the name Win 7 security trojan)

THEN!!!!

NEVER NEVER NEVER run your computer without 2 things:

anti-virus (www.avast.com is free and GREAT)

and malwarebytes.com

(and stay off those websites you been to LOL....)


14 posted on 01/15/2012 9:41:48 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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Thanks all. I am horpeful the system restore did the trick. Thanks Bloody Sam for that info. I hadn't noticed it before and it doesn't have the *32 on my older computers (Vista and XP). This one has Windows 7.

Also thanks to people in previous threads who recommended Malwarebytes. I've lost a bit of confidence in Avira from this. I started to load AVG first and changed my mind. Not sure why at this point. Thanks again.

15 posted on 01/15/2012 9:41:59 AM PST by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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The *32 means that the program is a 32 bit program. Your Windows 7 is probably the 64 bit version.

And if you search Google for “task manager windows 7 *32”

You’ll find lots of hits.


16 posted on 01/15/2012 9:42:20 AM PST by DB
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It’s not a malfunction. The *32 means it’s a 32-bit program. If it says *64 or doesn’t have *32 at all, it’s a 64-bit program. This is perfectly normal for a Windows 64-bit OS.

This is the correct answer.

17 posted on 01/15/2012 9:47:04 AM PST by Tigermoth ("...in order to form a more perfect union.....and secure the blessings of liberty..")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The most likely explanation:

You are unfamiliar with the OSX experience, so you resist change, even if for the better.

If you have some essential piece of software which runs only on Windows, you can run Windows inside a VM in OSX. This used to be a valid argument against adoption of Mac OSX, but is no longer valid.

FYI, I am a software developer, and there is simply no comparison between Windows and Mac OSX. I have not used Windows 8 yet, but I rather doubt that Microsoft have their act together, even after all these years.


18 posted on 01/15/2012 9:48:09 AM PST by dinodino
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Thanks, TexasFreeper. Just prior to this I was getting unusually (to me) frequent Adobe updates. I will check that - and hope it doesn’t come back.


19 posted on 01/15/2012 9:48:40 AM PST by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: kentramsay
why do you Windows users insist
So we can post images like ...


20 posted on 01/15/2012 9:49:33 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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