S.C. Poll: Romney Lead Grows, Gingrich Second (Newmax/INs Adv)

Newsmax ^ | 1-15-12 | Staff

[PJ-Comix]

Obama will lose to ANY Republican candidate, any of them, including Romney. Obama is toast. And, just IMHO, I think it will be next to a landslide of disapproval of Obama’s regime.

Correct, and that is also the analysis of Rush. This election will be basically a voter report card on Obama Regime and he will get a FAILING grade. Hopefully Rubio to be chosen as VP.

[spetznaz]

Thank you for seeing the logic. I think it is time for Conservatives to hope for the best, but at the same time to really come out and do their patriotic duty (and I say this as someone who cannot vote).

Hoping for Obama to fail and 'knowing for certain' that he will not be re-elected is great ...but all the same people need to come out full force and make it happen. Make it so. Because, for the reasons I gave in that post (and in 2008), I really don't think it will be as easy as some people think. Especially if the Republicans ran a Democrat-lite against the Obama machine (as Reagan once said, and I paraphrase, why should someone bother with a lite version of something if they can get the real thing). People saying 'any Republican candidate' can defeat Obama are so wrong they couldn't top it. The only way - and I say only way - Obama is losing is if a strong conservative (not just a social conservative, and not just a fiscal conservative ...no time for one trick ponies here ...and definitely not Mr-Obama-Lite Romney) is nominated, and once nominated that he receives the full support of Conservatives/Republicans both in terms of helping spread the outreach as well as financial, and on the day of the election people actually going to vote. Obama may be an empty suit (as some say), but he has powerful backers, has a campaign machine that is not only effective (see: 2008) but is willing to fight dirty (again; see: 2008), has the support of the media (and again, check the economy news last week and compare it to last month ...things are, allegedly, 'improving' even though on the ground people may differ with that assessment), and has enough money to drive a small nation. We are facing a dragon but some see it as a wall gecko. I believe in hoping for the best but working as hard as possible. This is the time to put in a lot of sweat equity, because if people do not a repeat of 2008 will happen.

[PJ-Comix]

I am praying that Newt stays in this until it’s just him and Romney toe to toe, which may mean until March.

Newt was riding high UNTIL he proclaimed that he WILL be the nominee. The Campaign God has declared this to be TABOO. Never proclaim yourself the winner until you have in fact actually won. That proclamation marked Newt's Jump the Shark moment.

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Conservatives will not vote for Romney. We'll vote for someone else and vote for Conservatives in Congress. Freerepublic will continue to ban Romney supporters throughout the election.

Many of us will never vote for him no matter who is VP choice is.

Per Jim Robinson:

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ObamaCare = RomneyCare = CommieCare. NO Romney! NO WAY!!

We will have live threads bashing both Romney and Zero equally. Thankfully, Romney will never have any support on freerepublic.com

[PJ-Comix]

I never said who would win. I’m just saying who will lose (as per Rush)-—Obama.

[ilgipper]

I agree, regarding perry.....if their internal number look like this and he is still sitting at 5%, he needs to get out this week before the vote. I was fine with perry staying in past Iowa as an alternative option but he looks to be getting no traction in a conservative state. After tonight’s debate, if no one else collapses, he should bow out by wednesday morning to allow some consolidation.

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Rush is wrong...

Zero will likely win if Romney is the nominee as many Conservatives will not vote for either of them.

That is a fact. Romney won’t have the Conservative base no matter who his VP nominee is. John McCain was hard enough to vote for but at least he had the military background and Sarah Palin.

Not that he would ask, but Palin would never agree to be Romney’s VP.

There is a difference between McCain and Romney. McCain was only slightly tolerable in 2008 and many of us voted for him. Romney supporters will continue to be banned on freerepublic.com

Zero will likely get impeached in a 2nd term if he wins against Romney.

Rush is wrong on this because Conservatives reject Romney and there is no changing that.

[PJ-Comix]

BTW, I am the superstitious type and NEVER use pump #13 at gas stations. Yesterday, I even placed another item on my supermarket tab because the cash register originally rang up at $6.66 and I freaked out to the point I had to change that number. Am I being overly superstitious concerning not jinxing yourself by declaring yourself a winner in advance? Apollo 13 was launched at 13:13 Houston time and was aborted on April 13, 1970. So maybe I have "silly" superstitions but why tempt fate when it could be easily avoided?

And now I take a break to rub my rabbit's foot.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

This may be met with disagreement, but this could be the moment Palin can accomplish much good.

Palin has enormous influence.

After the SC primary, she should announce a press conference and publicly, clearly at the side of her decided upon candidate, endorse one of the remaining three candidates Gingrich, Santorum or Perry.

The moment that happens, that candidate will get an immediate 10% surge just from Palin’s endorsement alone, and it will almost certainly lead the other two to the logical conclusion they are now running a futile campaign.

In a sensible world (which we may still have) that conclusion will lead the other two, to climb down and send their supporters also, to the remaining champion, to then wage the real battle for the GOP against Romney.

Governor Palin, now is the moment you can alter the course of this election.

Please do.

[org.whodat]

LOL, rick, supporter will not support newt, you little math is wrong. What in the world made you think they would.

[rbmillerjr]

“Santorum Flew to Alaska to twist the local pro-life organization in 2004 so they wouldn’t endorse a Pro-Life Republican over Pro-Abortion Lisa Murkowski in a GOP Senate primary.”

So much for his Evangelical purity.

He is a joke and a lightweight.

When he gets beat by Gingrich in SC, he is to vain to step out in Florida.

Congratulations Mitt.
Congratulations Obama.

[rbmillerjr]

“Santorum Flew to Alaska to twist the local pro-life organization in 2004 so they wouldn’t endorse a Pro-Life Republican over Pro-Abortion Lisa Murkowski in a GOP Senate primary.”

So much for his Evangelical purity.

He is a joke and a lightweight.

When he gets beat by Gingrich in SC, he is to vain to step out in Florida.

Congratulations Mitt.
Congratulations Obama.

[Hawthorn]

>> Rick ties up the evangelical-fundamentalist vote that doesn’t like Mitt because he’s a Mormon <<

Probably correct. But a lot of evangelicals/fundametalists — not to mention many women who aren’t in that religious category — can’t stomach Newt because of his serial adulteries.

[Hawthorn]

>> Newt + Ricks = 39%
>> Romney + Huntsman = 38%
>> Paul: 14%
>> Other: 2%
>> Undecided: 7%

A very interesting set of calculations. A good way to look at the matter!

But still, I can’t quite buy your math. You assume that ALL Santorum and Perry voters would go over to Newt. But I suggest that maybe 25% would go over to Romney, given Newt’s anti-capitalist rhetoric, his serial adultery and his flagrant lack of self-discipline.

So here are my back-of-the-envelope calculations, assuming the two Ricks drop out:

Newt + 75% of two Ricks = 21 +0.75*(18) = 21 + 13.5 = 34.5%

Romney + Huntsman + 25% of two Ricks = 38 + 4.5 = 42.5%

Paul: 14%

Other: 2%

Undecided: 7%

Now maybe tonite’s debate will turn everything upside down. But I gotta say that Romeny looks pretty strong, at least for the moment.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Santorum and Perry need to get out and they will after SC. I don’t think Santorum has the money to go to Fl and I think Rick Perry will drop out if he does not do well in SC. It will be a different race after that. I just hope Newt does not get discouraged.

[flaglady47]

Once the voters hear this explained clearly, and repeatedly, by the mainstream media, the level of mistrust that will surround Romney will be devastating. The Democrats may have to start a few months before the election because this is a lot to explain and can be a little confusing. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the Republicans end up trying to get Romney to stand down if there’s enough time before the election and replace him with another candidate. At a certain point it will become abundantly clear that Romney will lose in a landslide like he did to Ted Kennedy in 1994 and will end up taking Republican control of the House down with him.

This is a perfect example of the closed loop system of FR that was referred to by another Freeper. FR is an echo chamber of its own philosophy, and fails to see that other belief systems exist outside of it. There are a lost of more moderate and liberal Republicans as well as a bunch of Independents, and including a good chunk of pragmatic conservatives who will have no problem at all choosing Romney over Obama. Don’t underestimate the Pub’s ability to win with any one of our current candidates, against Obama. In fact, I predict close to a landslide over Obama.