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GOP presidential candidates seek Hispanic votes
Kansas City Star ^ | January 16, 2012 | WILLIAM E. GIBSON

Posted on 01/16/2012 6:03:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

..."Romney cree en nosotros," U.S. Rep.Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., tells viewers of a TV ad in South Florida, amid scenes of swaying palm trees, the Miami skyline and smiling Cuban-Americans. "Romney believes in us."

...Despite his hard line on immigration, Romney has rounded up endorsements from Hispanic Republican leaders across Florida, while pollsters and political analysts predict he will draw solid support from Hispanic voters in the primary.....

"...I've already gotten three fliers from Romney - in Spanish," said DarioMoreno, a Miamipollster and professor at Florida International University who focuses on Hispanic voters. "CentralFlorida and the TampaBay area are where Newt could gain some ground by presenting a more moderate stance on immigration than Romney."

..While preparing his re-election campaign, Obama is courting Hispanic leaders, reasserting his support for an immigration overhaul and revising rules to make it easier for close family members of U.S. citizens to avoid deportation and work here legally. The new rules spare illegal-immigrant relatives from having to return to their home countries indefinitely while seeking permission to re-enter on grounds of family hardship.

...Most Hispanics in Florida are PuertoRicans, who are citizens, or Cuban-Americans, who are citizens or legal residents. They are not directly affected by the immigration debate. Some resent those who entered illegally.

....The immigration debate "has been turned into a political anti-immigrant and racist diatribe, when in reality it's a legal question," said Phil Tua, a PuertoRicanRepublican in Longwood, who supports Texas Gov.RickPerry in the primary. "Because of the rhetoric, you have Puerto Ricans marching in the streets for illegal aliens."

...."Our main concern is not immigration, it's job creation and making sure the country is safe," said Nancy Acevedo of Winter Springs, chairwoman of the National Republican Hispanic Alliance, who backs Perry but also likes Romney....

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012election; cuba; dariomoreno; florida; gopprimary; hispanicvote; mariodiazbalart; mittromney; nancyacevedo; newtgingrich; philtua; puertorico; rickperry
It's a longer article with more nuances and information and worth taking a few minutes to to read it. I had to edit for posting rules.

Basically elected "establishment" Republicans have dutifully lined up behind the chosen candidate, Mitt Romney and are selling him to their constituents.

Then about this:

While preparing his re-election campaign, Obama is courting Hispanic leaders, reasserting his support for an immigration overhaul and revising rules to make it easier for close family members of U.S. citizens to avoid deportation and work here legally. The new rules spare illegal-immigrant relatives from having to return to their home countries indefinitely while seeking permission to re-enter on grounds of family hardship.

Jan 8, 2012: Re: “hardship waivers” ….”House liberals cheer proposed Obama administration immigration reform …..”Becerra on Friday said Republicans left the White House no other option but to act unilaterally on immigration reform. President Obama is right," he said. "We can't wait for Republicans in Congress to stop playing this nasty game of politics, blocking immigration reform legislation, which is tearing families and America apart."

1 posted on 01/16/2012 6:03:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Seek them...? All they have to do is visit Northern California. They’re everywhere....


2 posted on 01/16/2012 6:05:24 AM PST by freebilly
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To: freebilly

Oh, my bad, all the ones here illegally are Dem voters....


3 posted on 01/16/2012 6:06:38 AM PST by freebilly
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They are going to need more than hispanics once the GOP runs off conservatives with the Socialist Light candidate (Romney).


4 posted on 01/16/2012 6:22:51 AM PST by vmivol00
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5 posted on 01/16/2012 6:25:19 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

After a couple of weeks with little mention of the immigration issue, some reports say that Romney will revive the discussion at tonight’s debate. With Obama and Holder intervening to block SC’s new immigration law, it will have some more immediacy than even in previous debates.


6 posted on 01/16/2012 6:26:27 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88
I hope it is brought up.

Gov Rick Perry should have A LOT to say about this.

He wants the border sealed, drug cartels killed off and NO amnesty.

Gov. Perry and Texas have had to realistically deal with the mess wrought on border states by Federal action and inaction. There is no more we can do to alleviate the problem with the Fed's foot on our neck.

Every request is met with silence, scorn or a bandaid. Every legal challenge is met with the US Attorney Gen. and Federal Courts tying the state up in court. Federal immigration laws on the books are ignored and/or become a financial burden on the state and businesses.

Currently our redistricting map here in Texas is tied up in the Supreme Court (this will bump Texas out of the Super Tuesday vote) and our Photo Voter ID Bill is sitting on Eric Holder's desk, awaiting his approval.

7 posted on 01/16/2012 6:32:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well...I must say I’m stunned at the gall of anyone who would attempt to court the Hispanic vote. Doesn’t everyone know that LaRaza Ricardo has Hispanics, Mexicans, illegals, immigrants,illegal immigrants, future offspring of illegals, Mexican workers, Mexican non-workers, all in his corner and it’s one of the reasons he’s shunned. Why would Obama, the Dems and the we-had-no-choice-Republican Congress
want this?
I love this part:” While preparing his re-election campaign, Obama is courting Hispanic leaders, reasserting his support for an immigration overhaul and revising rules to make it easier for close family members of U.S. citizens to avoid deportation and work here legally. “
Hello. We’re from your friendly Immigration office. How are you today? Are you and your family close?
‘spose this legislation covers Aunt Zeituni and Uncle Omar types too?


8 posted on 01/16/2012 7:07:17 AM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Cincinatus’ Wife.


9 posted on 01/16/2012 7:09:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: FryingPan101
The Truth Found a Voice in Rick Perry
10 posted on 01/16/2012 7:18:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: vmivol00
They are going to need more than hispanics once the GOP runs off conservatives with the Socialist Light candidate (Romney).

Indeed. There are some who will take their ball and go home, because they'd rather give us another 4 years of Obama.

11 posted on 01/16/2012 7:28:57 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think Romney wants to bring illegal immigration up to contrast what he’s been saying to what Newt has been saying. I do wonder how Newt’s amnesty for folks who’ve been here illegally for 25 years, and go to church, etc., will go over while Obama and Holder are intervening to stop states’ immigration and voter ID laws.


12 posted on 01/16/2012 7:35:31 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

The only one who has any intention of sealing the border is Gov. Rick Perry. Period.

The rest of them are blowing smoke and pandering for votes.

The man they are beating around the head as being “soft on illegals” is the only man, who as president (because he can do no more in his capacity as gov) will fix this mess; and NO amnesty. And a correct, enforced immigration policy will be followed.


13 posted on 01/16/2012 7:59:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MEGoody

....or they refuse to vote for the most successful US socialist in state government just because has an R behind his name.

It’s ok though....if you are a citizen who likes government mandates, socialized medicine, global warming alarmism, liberal judges, defining the rich at a dollar amount below Obama, and candidates that determine their political positions by which office they are running for....then Romney is the perfect candidate for you.

Myself....I’m not stupid enough to buy into the world is ending if Obama is elected rhetoric designed to push conservatives into voting for Obama Jr. I don’t vote for candidates just because they are black, white, or because they have an R behind their name.


14 posted on 01/16/2012 8:01:47 AM PST by vmivol00
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think he’s also the only one running who instituted the Dream Act on a state level.

That being said he’s better than Romney.


15 posted on 01/16/2012 8:03:50 AM PST by vmivol00
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Kenny Bunk; wardaddy

Hugh Hewitt has been saying that Romney will announce Marco Rubio as his VP choice. Hewitt is a major Romney sycophant and probably has inside information.

And while Marco Rubio seems to be a matinee idol around here he sure isn’t for me. He failed the test when he was asked about Arizona’s 1070 bill, the bill that has allowed Arizona to enforce the immigration laws that Obama, and Dubya for that matter, refused to enforce.

Rubio opposed Arizona 1070.

Meaning that he puts the interests of illegal aliens ahead of the interests of the beleaguered American citizens of Arizona. It’s either ethnic pandering or ethnic solidarity. Rubio isn’t someone I want in higher office. Florida can keep him.


16 posted on 01/16/2012 8:20:47 AM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gingrich-Santorum
 
or
 
Santorum-Gingrich

17 posted on 01/16/2012 8:21:35 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We’ll see how it goes if immigration is discussed for any period of time tonight. I’m curious how it will impact Newt’s support in SC. He blames all his loss of support on negative ads run by Romney and Ron Paul, but his plunge began after an Iowa debate where voters really listened to his amnesty plan for illegals who’ve been here 25 years and go to church, etc.

I doubt any poll has separated those different events to determine how much each played in Newt’s loss of support, but I feel sure his amnesty plans cost him some support.


18 posted on 01/16/2012 8:22:37 AM PST by Will88
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To: MEGoody

Evidently you approve of Socialism Light. Good luck voting for Romney.


19 posted on 01/16/2012 8:25:44 AM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: Will88; Cincinatus' Wife

Who did John McCain endorse?

What’s McCain’s history on the issue?

What does that say about Romney and the issue?

Who did Sheriff Joe endorse?

What does THAT say?


20 posted on 01/16/2012 8:37:21 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Pelham
Evidently you approve of Socialism Light. Good luck voting for Romney.

I would much rather have what you call "socialism light" than the outright socialism and destruction of America that we have with Obama.

I realize there are some who'd rather get 4 more years of ZerO (who won't have the threat of having to run for re-election to hold him back from really showing his colors) than to vote for someone who just might harm America a bit less. If that's you, then that is your choice. I'll be voting for whoever is running against Obama.

Yes, I'd rather have someone other than Mitt. But I'm not going to pout my way into 4 more years of ZerO without at least doing what I can to get him out.

21 posted on 01/16/2012 12:58:59 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Because of race and ethnicity the rhetoric, you have Puerto Ricans marching in the streets for illegal aliens."
22 posted on 01/16/2012 1:03:10 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: vmivol00
Myself....I’m not stupid enough to buy into the world is ending if Obama is elected rhetoric

With someone other than Obama (yes, even with Mitt), it might be possible to repeal Obamacare, get rid of some of the Czars, cut some other spending, and perhaps, just perhaps, reverse a bit of the damage Obama has done.

If Obama gets re-elected, Congress will naturally assume the American people have given their stamp of approval to his last 4 years and will act accordingly.

I will then be able to thank you and others like you for sticking us with Obamacare forever.

23 posted on 01/16/2012 1:10:02 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

...and I will be able to thank you for setting back conservatives in the GOP to pre-Reagan levels


24 posted on 01/16/2012 2:17:23 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Are Hispanics a special class of “American” that needs to be handled differently? Or would a commonsense conservative message of lower taxes and less government appeal to them as it does to all Americans possessing commonsense?


25 posted on 01/16/2012 2:28:46 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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To: vmivol00
...and I will be able to thank you for setting back conservatives in the GOP to pre-Reagan levels

Better than getting stuck with Obamacare forever. At least America will still be around to regain conservative footing.

26 posted on 01/17/2012 5:59:22 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

If you actually believe the guy who was the principle architect of the foundations of Obamacare is actually going to repeal it, I have some oceanfront property you might be interested in.

He has said that he still supports the individual mandate. He says that we just need to get rid of the bad parts. What exactly would the principle architect of socialized medicine in Mass define as the bad parts?

The only thing that happens with Obamacare is that Romney legitimizes it with a GOP blessing.


27 posted on 01/17/2012 6:04:44 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So why didn’t he fight Washington like Jan Brewer did? And the way the Alabama governor did. I think in Texas you call it being “all hat and no cattle”. Perry is playing kissy face with all the cheap labor big shots.


28 posted on 01/17/2012 7:19:49 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Will88

Anyone who calls Americans *heartless* or tells a sob story about an illegal grandfather who has been here for 25 years, is just telegraphing that their sympathies are with the illegal intruders and not the American people who are truly suffering in many ways due to the foreign invasion. I saw an eighty year old rancher testifying before congress on CSPAN. He described his life of fear living on the border. He must sleep with a gun beside his bed, he keeps a gun by the door, when he drives his car he has to take a gun with him and when he rides on his ranch he carries a rifle but even though he is armed, if he sees someone he will just leave. That is how dangerous it is at the border and I am sick to death of all the Perry’s, McCains, Bushes and all the other two faced, double dealing open border enablers. You are putting that old gentlemen and many other good Americans in danger because you are playing your political games at their expense.


29 posted on 01/17/2012 7:31:33 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry is against everify, the fence and an Arizona type law.


30 posted on 01/17/2012 7:34:27 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: txrangerette

Politics makes strange bedfellows.


31 posted on 01/17/2012 7:40:31 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

The main hope for tougher border enforcement is probably to hold the House and regain a good majority in the Senate, and then get some tougher border enforcement legislation out of Congress. Romney is talking tougher than any of the remaining candidates on this issue, though some don’t believe him. But Congress will likely have to take the lead if Republicans can win back the WH.


32 posted on 01/17/2012 7:52:31 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

I just hope that this issue doesn’t get put back on the back burner.


33 posted on 01/17/2012 8:17:24 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Will88

Whe I used “you” I didn’t mean you of course, I was speaking rhetorically to open borders traitors.


34 posted on 01/17/2012 8:21:07 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom
Whe I used “you” I didn’t mean you of course, I was speaking rhetorically to open borders traitors.

That's how I interpreted it. And unless we have a Republican candidate who plainly advocates tougher border control and immigration enforcement, it will be put on the back burner by the MSM and Obama. It was not even on the back burner with McCain and Obama since they had no disagreements.

The MSM will avoid debate of the issue during the general election campaign if they can because they know it will hurt Obama among some voters if a Republican candidate advocates enforcement and points out Obama's refusal to enforce many laws and his halt of most deportations.

35 posted on 01/17/2012 8:36:47 PM PST by Will88
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To: cradle of freedom
So why didn’t he fight Washington like Jan Brewer did? And the way the Alabama governor did. I think in Texas you call it being “all hat and no cattle”. Perry is playing kissy face with all the cheap labor big shots.

He wants the border sealed, drug cartels killed off and NO amnesty.

Gov. Perry and Texas have had to realistically deal with the mess wrought on border states by Federal action and inaction. There is no more we can do to alleviate the problem with the Fed's foot on our neck. Lawyers just eat up your tax money futilely battling it in the courts. There are some battles, where you know from experience, that the deck is stacked against you.

Every request is met with silence, scorn or a bandaid. Every legal challenge is met with the US Attorney Gen. and Federal Courts tying the state up in court. Federal immigration laws on the books are ignored and/or become a financial burden on the state and businesses.

Currently our redistricting map here in Texas is tied up in the Supreme Court (this will bump Texas out of the Super Tuesday vote) and our Photo Voter ID Bill is sitting on Eric Holder's desk, awaiting his approval.

36 posted on 01/18/2012 1:01:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cradle of freedom
Perry is against everify, the fence and an Arizona type law.

Rick Perry has backed strategic fencing in areas it has proven to work.

Rick Perry, along with other states have publicly (to the court) supported AZ and the other states who are trying to enforce border protections in their states. He has said if he is president he never would have challenged those border states laws.

Rick Perry on E-verify:

“I agree that some kind of electronic verification system is needed so we can make sure employers comply with the law not to hire illegal immigrants. E-Verify is a federal government created and run program, and as a result there have been a number of problems with it so far. The Department of Homeland Security estimated the system could fail to identify more than half of all illegal immigrants.

But just because it has problems doesn’t mean we should throw employee verification out. It means we should make it work. Employee verification needs to be accurate so American citizens aren’t denied jobs based on bad data and undocumented immigrants don’t slip through the system. And it needs to be less cumbersome for employers to use, so it’s not costing them money they could be using to create jobs.

So as president, I’d work to put in place an E-Verify system that’s more accurate, less burdensome and really delivers the results we need it to.”

37 posted on 01/18/2012 1:05:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: vmivol00
If you actually believe the guy who was the principle architect of the foundations of Obamacare is actually going to repeal it, I have some oceanfront property you might be interested in.

No matter who the President is, he/she can't repeal Obamacare. All they have to do is sign the legislation from Congress that does so. We have a much better chance of Romney doing that than Obama. Again, Romney would know he had to run for re-election. Obama won't - and of course, he isn't going to sign legislation repealing his "legacy".

The only thing that happens with Obamacare is that Romney legitimizes it with a GOP blessing.

Not if we get the right people in Congress to actually vote to repeal.

38 posted on 01/18/2012 6:08:53 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

We may just to agree to disagree. I think with Romney it is much more likely that he tries to legitimize Obamacare rather than support it’s repeal.


39 posted on 01/18/2012 7:00:07 PM PST by vmivol00
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