Skip to comments.How do we prevent homosexual morality’s USA becoming an ancient Greek man-boy culture of sex?
Posted on 01/17/2012 11:58:25 PM PST by John Roco
The gay agenda is pervasive; it is everywhere: Brokeback Mountain, La Cage aux Follett, Log Cabin republicans, democratic party powerhouses, numerous library books- all seemingly unstoppable. It is almost as if Kinsey, who wanted to push the envelope, won- with his observations of sexual behavior of his college students, and in depth interviews of homosexual pedophiles. Kinsey is the one who came up with the continuum of sexual preference from gay to straight- seemingly through his intense observations of the results of sexual abuse on male minors by his pedophiles.
But how do we stop this immorality?
This nation, the USA, was built with references to our Creator as well as emphasis on the rights of the individual. But at what point do the rights of gays and homosexuals to pursue happiness, cross the line of forcing all of us into the fulcrum of their world. Already gays and homosexuals boast of obtaining access to all of the unwanted foster, adoptive children. Own all of the nations orphans is already a mantra. Of course, if it was, babysit all of the children, and all childcare facilities were required to have gay men on staff to expose children to a healthy non-discriminatory environment, we would all be up in arms. Right now, though, with HR 1681 and S 1770, Every Child Deserves a Family Act, the end result would be that no foster or adoptive child could choose to go to a non-gay or non-homosexual home.
The gay agenda is organized.
Just google log cabin republicans; in fact, in their split and divide policy, they have won. What just 25 years ago were the Reagan conservatives is now totally split. Are you a fiscal conservative? Oh, I was looking for a social conservative. Before, there was no differentiation. The Log Cabin Republicans produced this differentiation by forming themselves, then wanting to be added on to events; they also from radio self-reports of their own activities, would join republican parties incognito spreading their lore. When I heard the terminology religious extremists in my republican party referring to those who were social conservatives, I knew something was amiss. That, my friends, was direct infiltration.
What do we do?
Obviously we are civilized, unlike some other religious groups that demand termination of existence. All have a right to live, but they do not have a right to assert their beliefs on the rest of us and take over our culture and eventually in 50 years from now, have their perfect little ancient man-boy sex culture (obviously, this all was going to begin with HR 1681 or S 1770, Every Child Deserves a Family Act). Again, we behave as a Christian nation (while still observing as many religious leaders, Christianitys roots in Judaism- the father religion) and treat Homosexuals and gays who want this ultimate transformation, as ultimately and unfortunately people whose minds have been perverted- literally. In a straw hat survey university estimate, 90% of the gays reported being sexually molested (did the other 10% just forgot?).
They are victims.
This group knows nothing else than those behaviors inflicted upon themselves. Of course, as of my psychology background I know also- that in biology there are cases where in-betweens can happen- naturally- as the case in my own textbook, where someone is born with both female and male genitalia. So we do not blame them for what they are, but take pity on them, while at the same time vigorously defending our culture from being dominated by the ancient Greek man-boy sex cultured world they want. This is difficult, as obviously all outlets of media- TV, movies, YouTube, internet, books, radio, major media outlets- are dominated by the propagation of a world that 50 years from now (or sooner) is exactly what they want- complete fulfillment of the perverse sexuality they want everywhere around. Only by producing equivalent and even greater amounts of media in all realms- to counter their efforts, can we succeed in knowing that our great grandchildren will be able to grow up in a truly moral world, as the founders of the Declaration of Independence intended. Yes, we allow them to be as they are; no, we do not allow them to dictate our USA culture to become perverse, and yes we take pity on them, too.
Greek culture was different from ours, and the details of “gaydom” differ too. Even gay Greeks frowned on buggery, incidentally. Homosexuality there was more a kind of mutual j’ing off, details of which are not fit for a family friendly website.
To be honest with you I wouldn't mind seeing things rolled back a touch. BTW, the title is off a bit. Are you missing some words in there?
It would involve a time machine.
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Too late. Haven’t you noticed that American males even hug more than women now days?
I haven't noticed that, and I'm out and about all the time.
And I certainly don't.
Where are you hanging out? San Fran? In my neck of the woods, men shake hands. That is the only contact I see other than the occasional beer bottle over the head during heated bar discussions.
In Romans 1:18 and following there is a point made, which is: that there is a judicial act of divine judgment and wrath at work.
1) The text speaks in the plural which is important, it is not speaking about individuals but societies, nations and cultures. "They, them ... gave them up."
2) That judgment of God's wrath has a progressive character. They do not want God, they hold the truth of the existance of God and his moral will in unrighteousness. (Rom. 1:18)
3)He gives them over to their own depravity in blindness to worship idols,(Rom. 1:21 - and they do not repent) to destroy marriage (Rom. 1:24 and they do not repent) to what is contrary to nature, homosexuality female and male ( Rom 1:26, 27)
The text in various forms uses the expression "for this cause God gave them up.... The idea is an operation of divine wrath in judgment that:
1) exposes the folly of sin
2) leaves not just the individual but the people and nation, without excuse in the final out pouring of that judgment in the day of judgment.
Can you change the direction the world is heading in this area?
1) Working with individuals, some what, in the way of grace and repentance
2) with the nation or society as a whole, I would suggest the end is found in Genesis 19
No one likes my opinions on this around here, but I believe the problem starts very early. There seem to be far more masculinized female toddlers and feminized male toddlers these days. What to do? I think it is the plastics or other pollutants in our environment that is in the uterus wreaking havoc upon the hormonal and sexual development of fetuses.
I don’t know just what to do about it, but I do believe, from all the time I spend with children, that there are more sexual orientation birth defects than ever. There are other reproductive and sexual plumbing problems becoming epidemic lately too.
These kids are sweet innocents that happen to like the toys and dress and behavior of the opposite sex. They can’t help it; it’s not the parents’ fault. But I don’t get any support for thinking thus in these parts.
We must offer something holy and good to these innocents. Right now, as these kids get to puberty, they are welcomed by the gay agenda people and shunned by conservatives and religions. Kids with Down Syndrome are not rejected like this. But conservatives seem to be “haters” if it’s a defect in sexual orientation rather than intellect. If you’ve met one of these kids, you will see that it seems to be the way they are indeed “born” — this is Probably The only thing I agree on with Lady Gaga.
Their latest attack is to make it seem like marriage is meaningless, simply a contractual arrangement with certain benefits and ultimately, no responsibilities. Getting in one side of the door was relatively easy, but the other side, the lack of responsibility, is proving to be more difficult than they anticipated. There are now advocates pushing for a separate (but equal) divorce proceedings for homosexual couples, ‘celebrating their unique situation.’ AKA, don't stick me with child support and alimony.
They're running headlong into a very entrenched feminist region which doesn't want to see that affected, and certainly not the separate but equal resolution system, especially since it would be an easy legal jump for more traditional marriages to be equally considered meaningless.
Much more daunting is the whole two mommies situation. So much of the system has been geared towards turning men into wage slaves who must pile off their earnings into monthly checks to support the former wife and kids. Homosexuals don't exactly appreciate this system, and more over, when you've got two people who consider themselves wives, the automatic granting of custody is stymied.
A targeted fight against the dismantling of the family has to start at the most egregious infringements of the family, that of Child Protective Services and the equivalent. Laws must be rolled back to at the very least require actual proof that there's reason for the state to become involved, and if that threshold is met, priority must be given to extended family becoming primary caregivers.
Grandparents rights groups are an obvious ally in this, and must be cultivated to pool resources to enshrine the common sense that someone the child knows is far better than any random boarding house. While I know there's plenty of fine people in foster care, the cold hard reality is that there's also plenty who simply run their so called homes as boarding agencies collecting state checks, and care little for the children in their care.
By promoting ‘family first’, it also cuts down the number of adoption opportunities that gays can exploit in the system. Not to mention the number of vulnerable children in the foster care system.
An additional element to use to battle this invasion of the family would be senior citizen groups - enlist their aide in granting more leverage in keeping seniors with their nuclear families, rather than shipping them off to retirement homes and separating them from the generations. Dismantling a lot of the receivership laws that are being leveraged against seniors and forcing them away from all that they gained through hard work is another strong goal.
Finally, tort reform must be addressed; limits must be put on the courts as to the size of rewards in all claims, including divorces. The courts were never designed or envisioned to become tools to make people paupers, or to force people into debtor prisons, and this really needs to be addressed, and much of the autonomy in these types of proceedings removed from the judge and jury's hands. I personally believe that people will be more apt to work together to come to an agreement if there's no longer the giant axe swinging above their heads that can take away everything, as that kicks in the primal urges to survive, and by that, I mean fighting to the bitter end to hold onto as much as possible, lest it all be taken away.
I can see why you say that. This whole issue is edging towards a dark road, which is stepped upon once this question is asked: "Ancient Greece had democracy, which America has, and had a thriving homosexual subculture, which America has. Why is it that homosexuality and eventual pederasty end up coexisting comfortably with democracy?"
I'm just posing this question illustratively. It's not meant to be answered.
Then, why do you bother?
I happen to agree with you that homosexuality is largely physiological and that many gays are born with the tendency. (I’m not sure why that opinion is met with such hostility on Free Republic, given that I do NOT believe that being âborn that wayâ means one is allowed to act on homosexual impulses.) There are, though, environmental factors that cause homosexuality. One of the problems in the current culture is that, paradoxically, the wider acceptance of gays has made the public less accepting of a range of behaviors among straight men. An example: a boy with natural artistic ability is now labeled âgayâ. So I think there may also be perfectly normal heterosexual boys who at a very early age are told they are gay, and whose parents are told they are âhomophobicâ if they don’t embrace their son’s homosexuality. The parents then, because they do not want their son to be gay, discourage his interest in the arts, thereby sending him the message that the only way he can explore his interest in the arts is to rebel against them and accept the embrace of the gays.
What just 25 years ago were the Reagan conservatives is now totally split. Are you a fiscal conservative? Oh, I was looking for a social conservative. Before, there was no differentiation.That's because Reagan was able to appeal to social conservatives on issues like abortion and stopping the pro-left meddling of the federal government in cultural issues. He himself was a cultural libertarian and therefore did not allow the government to promote a cultural conservative agenda. Therefore, he did not alienate cultural libertarians.
Reagan helped create this split by converting many voters (especially under 30 at the time) to fiscal conservatism without the cultural collectivist baggage that is always an drag on the GOP at general election time.
As for homosexuality, he had little to say about it because he himself was tolerant. Patty Davis has recalled how he once told her about Rock Hudson's preferences in a very matter of fact and non-judgemental way.
“Are you a fiscal conservative? Oh, I was looking for a social conservative. Before, there was no differentiation.”
“Fiscal conservatives” are white Democrats who don’t like black people; we have a lot of them in the northeast. They have no problems with homosexuality, personal drug use, etc.; just keep those abortion mills humming in those cities. That is what separates them from “conservatives”.
“Im not sure why that opinion is met with such hostility on Free Republic, given that I do NOT believe that being born that way means one is allowed to act on homosexual impulses.”
Probably because the number of homosexuals who have admitted to being assaulted as children; it is a lot - like it “broke” them.